Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-04 Thread Tobias Wolf
Did you solve the problem for your installation? I have tetex 3.0 and
lmodern from my distribution, but i copied the cont-lmt.zip into the
main tree overwriting the files that came with the latin modern
pakage, and still all I get are these mktexpk errors. Nothing works :(
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Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-04 Thread Tobias Wolf
 Did you check which cont-sys.tex is being used? See also the
 recent mswintex thread. Or just post/email the full log of

\starttext hello world!\stoptext

 Cheers, taco

Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
/etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
it used anyway in ConText?).
I followed the instructions on the Wiki, but I was fairly confused
because the generic instructions and the Debian instructions being
interspersed didn't make clear what really pertains to Debian. For
instance, the paths are different, and have to be, right?

Also, I tried other non-latin-modern fonts, there are also mktexpk
errors. I don't even know what's missing as in how to create bitmap
fonts and, why do I need them at all?
The tfms are there:
$locate ec-lmr12
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/lm/ec-lmr12.tfm
$ kpsewhich ec-lmr12.tfm
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/lm/ec-lmr12.tfm

So here's the output you requested.

kind regards, Tobias





[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ texmfstart newtexexec test
TeXExec | processing document 'test'
TeXExec | provide ctx file
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | tex engine: pdfetex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
TeXExec | progname: context
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2005.10.27  fmt: 2005.11.2  int: english  mes: english

language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color   : palette rollover is available
)
system  : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns nl-texnansi:texnansi-1-2:2 nl-ec:ec-2-2:2 fr-
texnansi:texnansi-3-2:2 fr-ec:ec-4-2:2 de-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:2 de-e
c:ec-6-2:2 it-texnansi:texnansi-7-2:2 it-ec:ec-8-2:2 pt-texnansi:texna
nsi-9-2:2 pt-ec:ec-10-2:2 hr-ec:ec-11-2:2 pl-pl0:pl0-12-2:2 pl-ec:e
c-13-2:2 pl-qx:qx-14-2:2 cz-il2:il2-15-2:2 cz-ec:ec-16-2:2 sk-il2:i
l2-17-2:2 sk-ec:ec-18-2:2 sl-il2:il2-19-2:2 sl-ec:ec-20-2:2 en-ec:e
c-22-2:2 da-ec:ec-23-2:2 sv-ec:ec-24-2:2 af-ec:ec-25-2:2 no-ec:ec-
26-2:2 deo-ec:ec-27-2:2 uk-ec:ec-28-2:2 us-ec:ec-29-2:2 es-ec:ec-30
-2:2 ca-ec:ec-31-2:2 la-ec:ec-32-2:2 ro-ec:ec-33-2:2 tr-ec:ec-34-2
:2 fi-ec:ec-36-2:2 hu-ec:ec-37-2:2 loaded
specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system  : test.top loaded
(./test.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
)
systems : begin file test at line 1
fonts   : resetting map file list
fonts   : using map file: original-base
fonts   : using map file: ec-public-lm
fonts   : using map file: ec-base
fonts   : using map file: original-ams-base
fonts   : using map file: original-public-lm
[1.1{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-empty.map}{/usr/share/te
xmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips
/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map
}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/share/t
exmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}]
systems : end file test at line 1
system  : cont-err loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex

 User file 'cont-sys.tex' not found, 'cont-sys.rme' has been used instead. 

)kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 ec-lmr12
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
 )
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-lmr12): Font ec-lmr12 at 72 not found
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 1184 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file test.tex
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
TeXUtil | expansions: 0
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | 

Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-04 Thread Tobias Wolf
On 11/4/05, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Tobias,

 Tobias Wolf wrote:
 
  Well, thanks for the offer to have a look!
  cont-sys.tex doesn't yet exist. It is set to defaults.
  My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
  a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
  /etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
  it used anyway in ConText?).

 ConTeXt comes with its own map files, and that is what has your
 system confused: it is using teTeX's map files (for dvips) still,
 instead of the ones from the context distribution (for pdftex).

I fear it was even more complicated. Also some strangeness in the map
files which i discovered myself in the meantime.
I ripped all the context folders from my system and saw that there
were even map files in /etc

$locate -r /context$
/etc/texmf/map/dvips/context
/etc/texmf/map/pdftex/context
/etc/texmf/context
/usr/share/doc/texmf/context
/usr/share/doc/texmf/polish/context
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/context
/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/context
/usr/share/texmf/context
/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/afm/hoekwater/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/hoekwater/context
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/hoekwater/context
/usr/share/texmf/scripts/context
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/context

I grepped for ec-lmt-12 in the map files and it wasn't there. But
these were identical (i.e. the second contained references to cork.
(why??))

$ diff cork-public-lm.map ec-public-lm.map
$


So I just did $rm -rf `locate -r /context$` and inflated the
cont-tmf.zip back into the tree. Maybe it would have been better to
use my home dir texmf for that but there were a .texmf, a texmf and a
.texmf-var already and I didn't want to hunt for some stale files
first.

  I followed the instructions on the Wiki, but I was fairly confused
  because the generic instructions and the Debian instructions being
  interspersed didn't make clear what really pertains to Debian. For
  instance, the paths are different, and have to be, right?

 I think so, but I don't use Debian so am not sure. To be honest,
 this kind of mess was the reason why my contribution to that page
 begins with *forcing* the removal of the distribution-supplied
 teTeX. Linux packagers always seem to believe they know everything
 better than the original author/developer, and they generally mess
 up the author's documentation while at it. :-(

It's a bad combination and makes the situation even more complicated
and increasingly arcane to setup and debug. All these texmfs, maps,
tfms and whatnot. Insane. Plus ConText's output only makes sense to
the developers.
Latin modern is up and running, though. Phew.
My initial intention to compile the PDFTex docs still is a no-go. It
is asking for  the ec-urw-palatino.map which doesn't exist :(

*getting out the typewriter*

regards, Tobias

 Cheers, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-04 Thread Tobias Wolf
On 11/4/05, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tobias Wolf wrote:

 My system, as I mentioned, is teTex 3 from Debian unstable, which has
 a weird new map system that is working through .cfg files in
 /etc/texmf/updmap.d . I kept it there, so it mounts lm.map itself (is
 it used anyway in ConText?).
 
 
 i don't use updmap at all

 context loads map files on demand (when configured in cont-sys.tex)

 when no cont-sys.tex is present, then cont-sys.rme is used

 the presense of those files in /etc is disturbing (and strange since tex
 has pretty well layed out tree with defined configuration places)

 i have no idea how tex + friends can/will locate those files

I think they want to make people use /etc for configuration, which
could make sense if you want to make backups of the system config.
The updmap.d directory is supposed to make mounting maps easier, I
guess. You just drop a file there containing the Map/MixedMap
assignments and that is merged into updmap.cfg on issuing updmap-sys.

Pretty confusing all that.

But on the other hand, Hans, why can't I compile the PDFTex docs
because I don't have this (
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2004/006705.html )
And secondly, why is the file system searched case sensitive, so that
the fonts are called in lowercase through the ConText maps
(ec-raw-lte5002), so that I have to rename all files, but then
mktextfm fails because it looks for ec-raw-LTe50021?

For me the disturbing things are starting to prevail in my ConText
experience. Is it supposed to be like that?

-- Tobias








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Re: [NTG-context] cont 2005.10.27 t5-lmtt10 font problem

2005-11-02 Thread Tobias Wolf
 This package was installed on my teTeX system.

Do you also use the lmodern Debian package from unstable?
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Re: [NTG-context] Sparklines to be in ConTeXt?

2005-08-01 Thread Tobias Wolf
The particular temptation that I saw was that they _aren't_ a substitute
for a full graph -- they're only a substitute for the information one gets
were trying to put so much information in them that one would need to spend
time studying them to read them, and that misses the point.

 Personally, I haven't yet written anything that seemed to provide a good
 use for them, so I'm sort of waiting to have a real opinion on them until I
 actually find a place to give them a proper try-out in a real-world
 situation.
 
 In any case, I do agree that MetaPost is probably one of the best ways to
 implement them, and ConTeXt's MetaPost integration should make it quite
 easy to organize such implementations.

To clarify, my question wasn't a request or anything. I see it in the
same position as you, a toy used in exploration of some concepts that
nonetheless seem to be based on some valid points. One of them being
that the data and the text shouldn't be too disparate, floated far
afield,  and another that the content to presentation ratio should be
maximal. These Sparklines cannot replace a full-blown figure but
afford to approach data more in the sense of reading than in the sense
of deciphering.

I asked here because everything about it screamed ConTeXt (also
considering that the favourite command here seems to be \input tufte).
Thought this meme must have infected some here.
- Tobias
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[NTG-context] Sparklines to be in ConTeXt?

2005-07-31 Thread Tobias Wolf
Hey,
what do you people actually think about E. Tufte's Sparklines?²
They are a great and innovative thing in my mind; both in the
information mediating and the typographic sense.
There's a bare-bones LaTeX package on CTAN, but when I think about it,
this technique could find a perfect place in ConTeXt's framework (say
MetaPost, XML, Scripting and so on. There's even some kind of Ruby
implementation³).
- Tobias

² http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0001ORtopic_id=1
³ http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/sparklinesForMinimalists.html
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation Styles

2005-06-13 Thread Tobias Wolf
On 5/19/05, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 M.guravage wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I recently prepared a presentation using pre-05. The Topics, represented as
  buttons in a column on the left, are now each preceeded by a number. This
  was not the case when I last used the style back in January. Interestingly,
  s-pre-05.tex has not changed since then. This behavior is the same on both
  the latest ConTeXt alpha and beta releases.
 
  I'd appreciate it very much if anyone could shed some light on why these
  numbers are appearing.
 
 it runs ok here; i'll send you my core-lst.tex file
 
 Hans


Could you provide it to all, please? I experience the same.

Tobias
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[NTG-context] Context, LaTeX, or an XML for academic writing?

2005-05-17 Thread Tobias Wolf
 Ask somebody in your field who is really good at TeX for the LaTeX
 sources of his/her thesis,
 and use them as templates. Spend as little time as possible thinking
 about
 layout and as much as you can about content.

You speak the truth. I really want to avoid that. I do have solid
experience with LaTeX and could start right away with it. Considering
ConTeXt comes from its clear conceptual advantages. I'm basing the
decision on whether someone can point me into a direction and say:
use this, it looks great and you'll be content with it.


 You only will have the energy  to strive for excellence in layout after
 you have
 had the satisfaction of creating content worthy of it.

I did a presentation before with ConTeXt and exactly that was the
painful lesson I learned.

Thanks for the advice

- Tobias
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[NTG-context] Context, LaTeX, or an XML for academic writing?

2005-05-16 Thread Tobias Wolf
Dear NTG-context denizens,

today I went to work to make up my mind about whether it would be a
good idea to go ahead and produce my BSc. Thesis with ConTeXt.
It's clear, I'm very much attracted to it's approach, I do like the
syntax and the focus on PDF output (I never used DVI before) et cetera
pp.
This is my first post to the list and I'm happy that CB just
formulated my main requirements. The hard contraints are certainly 2,
3 and 5.
I've seen Hrabans' ciee juxtaposition of ConTeXt and LaTeX, and after
searching the list I am not sure whether going for a KOMA class
wouldn't be better considering that I definitely don't have time
develop my own ConTeXt environment this time.

I've also seen the MS thesis of Han The Thanh. It's good. But I would
need something more suited for natural sciences that accomodates
plenty of figures and references. Also I would like to cloak my
thesis by avoiding Computer Modern.

Do ready-made academic templates by one of you experts exist - or
do you dissuade me from just using ConTeXt for for writing academic
literature?

- Tobias
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