Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Hans Hagen wrote: William D. Neumann wrote: And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take. I would love to use ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much easier, not just layout and design. Unfortunately, it's inability to play like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, mean eh .. what's wrong with the footnotes? Set a page in two column with footnotes set to span just the column where the mark is placed (I forget the full commands to do this... I could look them up, but you probably know what they are...). Now, place a footnote. In LaTeX, you get something that looks like: text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text[1] texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text -- text text text text [1] footnote foot text text text text footnote footnote text text text text footnote footnote text text text text In ConTeXt you get something like: text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text[1] texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text -- [1] footnote foot footnote footnote footnote footnote That is, the other column doesn't flow around the footnote in the other column, wasting space and looking ugly. I asked at least twice on this list how to fix this and received no fixes. If you have a fix, I would be *very* pleased to hear about it... William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. -- Tony-A (some guy on /.) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Even if math is typical for TeX, it's not typical for ConTeXt. I think the typical university user is content with LaTeX. ConTeXt is for those who like to design their own layout. And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take. I would love to use ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much easier, not just layout and design. Unfortunately, it's inability to play like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, means that I have to constantly turn back to LaTeX whenever I need to write something for work or school. Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic. But I'm no scientific user. And for those of us who are, bibliographies are *crucial* and should be considered a basic part of any tpesetting program that wants to be taken seriously. And while m-bib is usually sufficient, it too has enough quirks that it's just not worth the time to even bother if you want to submit a paper that has a special format requirement for the bibliographies. William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. -- Tony-A (some guy on /.) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] t-nath difficulty
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Gary Pajer wrote:
In the following code, the first formula typesets as I want, and the
second doesn't. But the syntax in the second looks correct.
Bug or feature? or setup problem?
\usemodule[nath]
\starttext
$ y = (1 + \frac{}{a}{b}) $
$ y = (1 + \frac{a}{b}) $
\stoptext
What problem are you having? I tried this example and got the following
output (only typset nicely, of course):
y = (1 + (/a)b)
y = (1 + a/b)
Which appears to be the correct output. Are you using the current
t-nath/t-amsl (from december 2003, I believe)?
William D. Neumann
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Re: [NTG-context] Eeeep! m-bib/bibtex stopped working
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Files don't *normally* disappear on you, so almost certainly something has changed in your TeX setup. Perhaps you re-installed something and forgot to re-run mktexlsr? Or perhaps an enviroment variable that has been changed? OK, I have no idea how this happened, but somehow my *.bst files were all renamed to *.bst.bst -- this was the problem. How I missed this yesterday is also unknown (I guess I was tired and cross-eyed at that point...). I've always said the best time to debug is first thing in the morning after a good breakfast. I guess I was right... Thanks again. William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Wrapping around footnotes
I'm preparing a paper in two column format, and I'm having issues with footnotes in one column affecting the text in the other column because the text in the other column stops at the same spot as the text in the column with the footnote rather than typsetting down to the bottom of the page. For example, I am currently getting: blah, blah, blah1yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer -- 1 footnote text here. footnote text here. footnote text here. Instead of this (which I want) blah, blah, blah1yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer blah, blah, blah yammer, yammer, yammer -- yammer, yammer, yammer 1 footnote text yammer, yammer, yammer here. footnote yammer, yammer, yammer text here. yammer, yammer, yammer footnote text here. yammer, yammer, yammer How can this be done? I've tried playing with the various setup commands for columns and footnotes, but nothing seems to work. Any help is appreciated. William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] double lines in tables?
Is there a way to create tables with double horizontal lines in ConTexXt? Using: \HL \HL Just causes ConTeXt to ignore one of them. William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] \setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
I'm trying to layout a paper for a conference that requires a format
different from the standard latex layout, and for the most part context
has been making this quite easy on me (excluding the four hours I spent
trying to mimic the latex \thanks{} construct), however, I've encoutered a
new problem that's confusing me. since I'm sure the problem stems from my
lack of plain tex and context knowledge, I figured someone here would know
what I'm doing wrong, and asking you for help is certainly more pleasant
than banging my head for another four hours only to find another trivial
solution...
My problem is this: I needed to place a . after the number in the
section and subsection headings, so I included the following in my
preamble:
% setup section headings to include a . after the section number
\setuphead
[section]
[command=\mysec,
indentnext=yes]
\def\mysec#1#2{#1. #2}
\setuphead
[subsection]
[command=\mysubsec,
indentnext=yes]
\def\mysubsec#1#2{#1. #2}
This works just fine as far as inserting the ., however, it has the
side-effect of not wrapping long section of subsection headings. For
example, \subsection[longsubsec]{This is a really long subsection heading
that won't wrap} gets typeset all on a single line, which is not good
since the paper is set in two columns...
So, is there either a better (more proper) way to insert the ., or at
least a better command to use for \mysec and \mysubsec
Thanks,
William D. Neumann
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote:
hm, must be some kind of complex thing then, what is \thanks supposed to do?
No, it's not complex at all, and the answer ended up being trivial. The
\thanks command is essentially a footnote to be used in the title portion
of an article (or book, etc.) -- the big problem I was having was that the
footnote mark was appearing fine, but the footnote text was nowhere to be
found -- this was solved once I found the essentially hiden \footnotetext
command and used that to place the text where I wanted it. After that, I
needed to figure out how to reset the footnote counter (which was a pretty
minor problem to solve).
\setuplabeltext[en][chapter={{A},{B}}]
\setuphead[section][separator={XXX}]
\setuplist[chapter,section][stopper=.]
\placecontent[criterium=text]
\chapter{\input tufte \relax}
\section{test}
That's not doing what I need. What I need is for the section headings in
the text of the article to look like {section number}. {section title} --
I was able to insert the . between the number and the title easily
enough, but my solution turned off line wrapping for the title. I've
attached an example that shows both what I am trying to do, and how my
solution fails (on page 2 of the accompanying dvi).
Thanks,
William D. Neumann
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And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it.
Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets.
When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this?
If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days.
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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib and crossref
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
If you run ConTeXt one more time, you will get:
Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable signatures.
In (Brickell, 1992), pages 1-14.
The module inserts a 'default' \cite command for the referenced item. This is
exactly the behavior I intended, even if it is not compatible with LaTeX practise.
Personally I like 'real' cross-referencing better than filling in fields in order to
minimize the number of keystrokes in the BIB file.
I suppose that's a valid sentiment, although it saves many, many
keystrokes when your bib file is full of proceedings and journal articles.
Plus it looks fairly silly to reference the proceedings when you reference
only one or two of the articles in it (the same goes for books, journals,
etc.). Oh well... until I'm willing to write my own package I suppose I
have to play along or go back to LaTeX.
Unfortunately, there is an error in the code that prevents the referenced entry
from automatically appearing in the publication list.
A quick hack: replace '\completepublications' with
\setbox0\vbox{\placepublications}
\completepublications
Thanks, however there is a slight problem with this method: When I use
refcommand=num and numbering=yes (which is required for some
publications), then the crossreference in the article entry is corect,
e.g.
[4] Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable
signatures. In [11], pages 1-14.
However, the entry for the proceedings themselves have the wrong number,
they get reset and start over from 1 e.g.
[1] Ernest F. Brickell, , editor (1992). 12th Annual International
Cryptology Conference, Santa Barbara, California, USA, August 16-20,
1992, Proceedings, number 740 in Lecture Notes in Computer Science. ,
Springer.
Do You know of any way around this, or am I just going to have to manually
edit the bbl file?
Two more questions:
1: Whenever a reference includes an editor, it is typeset as:
(Editor Name), , rest of reference (see above for example). I've tried
playing around with the various namesep settings, but I can't get rid of
that second , pair. How do I get rid of it?
2: As you can see above, I've selected \normalauthor for the typesetting
of names in the references, however, whenever a publication has three or
more authors, the names are typest in the apa \invertedshortauthor format.
Is there some way to override this?
Thanks for the help and for the package -- I would hate to have to
manually create my list of references for every paper I write.
William D. Neumann
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[NTG-context] m-bib and crossref
I am having a problem with the m-bib module, in that it does not seem to
be handling crossrefs properly. For example, in my bibtex database I have
the following entries:
@inproceedings{ bos92sigs,
author = Jurjen N. E. Bos and David Chaum,
title = Provably Unforgeable Signatures,
crossref={CRYPTO92},
pages = 1-14}
@proceedings{CRYPTO92,
editor= {Ernest F. Brickell},
title = {12th Annual International
Cryptology Conference, Santa Barbara, California, USA,
August 16-20, 1992, Proceedings},
booktitle = {Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '92},
publisher = {Springer},
series= {Lecture Notes in Computer Science},
volume= {740},
year = {1992},
isbn = {3-540-57340-2},
bibsource = {DBLP, http://dblp.uni-trier.de}
}
if I cite bos92sigs in a LaTeX document, the following reference is
produced:
[3] Jurjen N. E. Bos and David Chaum. Provably unforgeable signatures. In
Ernest F. Brickell, editor, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO 92, volume
740 of Lecture Notes in Computer Science, pages 1-14. Springer, 1992.
But ConTeXt + m-bib produce:
[4] Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable
signatures. In [??], pages 1-14.
What this looks like is that m-bib does not handle bibtex crossrefs
properly; it tries to create another entry in the publication list and put
a reference to that new entry in the crossrefrencing entries (although it
did not add an entry for the CRYPTO 92 proceedings in my publication
list...). What it should be doing (according to the bibtexing document)
is supplying the missing entries (such as booktitle, publisher, etc.) to
the crossreferencing entry, and then creating a new entry in the
publication list only if the same item is crossref'ed by min-crossrefs
(default=2) normal entries.
Is this indeed the case? If so, is there a simple fix (e.g. some option
that is not in the m-bib documentation)? Or is there some other
bibliography package that handles bibtex crossrefs properly?
Thanks,
William D. Neumann
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And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it.
Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets.
When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this?
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