Re: [NTG-context] [OT] intelligent commas in math (in LaTeX)

2011-09-30 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
>>> In principle a cleaner implementation is possible in luatex (without
>>> using
>>> active characters), but I am not completely sure about this. It will be
>>> better to handle this as part of \mnum macro.
>>>
>> Hm, can you explain this a bit ?
>
> Currently ConTeXt already checks if '.' is part of a complete number or not
> as part of the export macros. For example:
>
> \m{x + 1.25y = 3.5}
>
> exports as
>
>   display="inline">𝑥+1.25𝑦=3.5
>
> Notice that 1.25 is part of a single  tag.
>
> In contrast, if you use comma as a math delimiter, then the export function
> does not recognize the number correctly.
>
> \m{x + 1,25y = 3.5}
>
> exports as
>
>   display="inline">𝑥+1,25𝑦=3,5
>
> However, we do have a \mn macro (math number) to tag numbers. So you can
> type
>
> \m{x + \mn{1,25}y = \mn{3,5}}
>
> which exports as
>
>   display="inline">𝑥+1,25𝑦=3,5
>
>
> So, if we want to recognize ',' as a decimal separator, two solutions are
> possible in MkIV. The first is to build upon the existing export code that
> recognizes '.' as a decimal separator (to figure out the contents of the
>  tag) to also recognize ',' as a decimal separator;
>
> The drawback of such an approach is that if you are in the habit of not
> adding a space after a comma, for example writing "Let $\naturalnumbers$
> denote the set $\{1,2,3,\dots\}$ of natural numbers..." then you will get
> wrong output.
>
> So, an alternative option is to ask the user to tag all numbers with \mn.
> Then, the \mn{...} macro can redefine the comma so that the spaces around it
> match its use as a decimal separator.
>
> Aditya

ok


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luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] intelligent commas in math (in LaTeX)

2011-09-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan

In principle a cleaner implementation is possible in luatex (without using
active characters), but I am not completely sure about this. It will be
better to handle this as part of \mnum macro.


Hm, can you explain this a bit ?


Currently ConTeXt already checks if '.' is part of a complete number or 
not as part of the export macros. For example:


\m{x + 1.25y = 3.5}

exports as

  display="inline">𝑥+1.25𝑦=3.5


Notice that 1.25 is part of a single  tag.

In contrast, if you use comma as a math delimiter, then the export 
function does not recognize the number correctly.


\m{x + 1,25y = 3.5}

exports as

  display="inline">𝑥+1,25𝑦=3,5


However, we do have a \mn macro (math number) to tag numbers. So you can 
type


\m{x + \mn{1,25}y = \mn{3,5}}

which exports as

  display="inline">𝑥+1,25𝑦=3,5



So, if we want to recognize ',' as a decimal separator, two solutions are 
possible in MkIV. The first is to build upon the existing export code that 
recognizes '.' as a decimal separator (to figure out the contents of the 
 tag) to also recognize ',' as a decimal separator;


The drawback of such an approach is that if you are in the habit of not 
adding a space after a comma, for example writing "Let $\naturalnumbers$ 
denote the set $\{1,2,3,\dots\}$ of natural numbers..." then you will get 
wrong output.


So, an alternative option is to ask the user to tag all numbers with \mn. 
Then, the \mn{...} macro can redefine the comma so that the spaces around 
it match its use as a decimal separator.


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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] intelligent commas in math (in LaTeX)

2011-09-30 Thread Philipp A.
that would be very useful for sets and german decimals: $x = 1,33$ vs. $x ∈
{1, 2, 3, 4}$
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] intelligent commas in math (in LaTeX)

2011-09-30 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> http://tug.org/pracjourn/2011-1/beccari.html
>
> Short summary: This allows the comma in  $1, 2, 3$ to be have as punctuation
> comma (similar to \setupmathematics[autopunct=no]) and
> $1,23$ to behave as decimal comma (similar to
> \setupmatematics[autopunct=yes]). Since it is targeting pdftex and xetex
> engines, it makes , an active char in mathmode and redefines it as a macro
> that uses look ahead to check if the next token is a digit.
>
> In principle a cleaner implementation is possible in luatex (without using
> active characters), but I am not completely sure about this. It will be
> better to handle this as part of \mnum macro.
>
> Aditya
Hm, can you explain this a bit ?

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] intelligent commas in math (in LaTeX)

2011-09-29 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


http://tug.org/pracjourn/2011-1/beccari.html


Short summary: This allows the comma in  $1, 2, 3$ to be have as 
punctuation comma (similar to \setupmathematics[autopunct=no]) and
$1,23$ to behave as decimal comma (similar to 
\setupmatematics[autopunct=yes]). Since it is targeting pdftex and xetex 
engines, it makes , an active char in mathmode and redefines it as a macro 
that uses look ahead to check if the next token is a digit.


In principle a cleaner implementation is possible in luatex (without using 
active characters), but I am not completely sure about this. It will be 
better to handle this as part of \mnum macro.


Aditya
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[NTG-context] [OT] intelligent commas in math (in LaTeX)

2011-09-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
http://tug.org/pracjourn/2011-1/beccari.html
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