Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

2005-08-09 Thread Vit Zyka

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in 
the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.



this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]


Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of 
struts (add description to tex-show)

- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET 
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the 
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another 
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be 
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.


example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit


Hallo hans, thank you for your code. I find it in my mail box just today 
although it is 4 days old. So apologise me.


Unfortunately it seems to me it
A) does not work
   after successfull
  \definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }
   \MyListItem is not defined.
B) does not solve the problem with a single long line list alternative.

But. Your example discovered me there are few more alternative in 
\setuplist (except a..f, none):


horizontal
vertical
command

So your example leads me to find the solution. I still do not know how 
to insert interaction to page number inside \MyListCommand. I have tried

\def\MyListCommand#1#2#3{%
  #1-#2-%
  \setbox0\hbox{#3}% \showcontrastlocation\??ia{??}{#3}}%
  \linklisttoelement{subsection}{??}{#3}{\box0}%
  )}
}
but I am puzzled by \linklisttoelement parameters.

Thnak ones more
Vit


Solution:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[part]

[style=\bfb,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand,before=\blank,after=\endgraf]
\setuplist[chapter]

[style=\bfb,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand,before=\blank,after=\endgraf]
\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfa,alternative=command,command=\MyListCommand]
\def\MyListCommand#1#2#3{%
  \listparameter{before}%
  {\listparameter{style}(#1-#2-#3)}\hskip1em plus.5em minus.5em
  \listparameter{after}%
}

\starttext
\writetolist[part]{1}{Part 1}
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Chapter 1}
\writetolist[section]{1}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{2}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{3}{Another list line}
\expanded{\writetolist[section]{}{And the last line.}}
\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Chapter 2}
\writetolist[section]{1}{Section 1}

\lineskiplimit=-\maxdimen
Line\par
Another line of \v Sejba\par

\placecontent

\strut
After list.

\stoptext
---




\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=none,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank,
  command=\MyListItem]

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=command
  command=\MyListItem]

in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined
ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new):
\unprotect
\def\definelistplacement
 {\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement}

\def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]%
 {\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}%
{\doifelsenothing{#2}
   {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}%
   {\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2}
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}%
\setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}%
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}%
  

Re: [Fwd: Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?]

2005-08-08 Thread Hans Hagen

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello,

I was perhaps little descriptive in my last question. Let me discribe 
my real problem:


you can explitly snap:

\showgrid
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\snaptogrid\vbox{\bf \setstrut \strut test}
\snaptogrid[line]\vbox{\bfa \setstrut \strut test}
\snaptogrid[line]\vbox{\bfa \setstrut \strut test 1\endgraf test 2}
\snaptogrid\vbox{\sl \setstrut \strut test}



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[Fwd: Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?]

2005-08-06 Thread Vit Zyka

Hello,

I was perhaps little descriptive in my last question. Let me discribe my 
real problem:


I'd like to typeset a table of content as follows:
--

Part 1

Chapter 1
Section 1Section 2Section3
Section with longer name 4Section 5
Section 6

Chapter 2
Section 1   Section 2...


---
Everything has to be on the grid. Problem is that 'Part 1' and 'Chapter 
1' are typeset with bigger font (\bfa and \tfa respectively). And grid 
is too tight to fit \bfa/\tfa struts. But the character size is 
optically OK even preserving grid due to blank lines around bigger font. 
I do not want to use \placetogrid in this case since AFAIK it adds one 
blank line more.


Solution: not to add struts to list items and set 
\lineskiplimit=-\maxdimen. I discovered that there is alternative 'none' 
that does not place struts. The only problem is that 'none' create one 
long line like

---
Section 1Section 2Section3 Section with longer name 4Section 
5Section6

---
oversized \textwidth.

So the question is:
  How to typeset list items to paragraph without struts?

Minimal test code is bellow.

Thank you for replay
Vit


Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.




this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]


Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of
struts (add description to tex-show)
- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.

example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit


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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

2005-08-05 Thread Hans Hagen

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in 
the common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.





this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]



Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of 
struts (add description to tex-show)

- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET 
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the 
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another 
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be 
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.


example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit


\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=none,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank,
  command=\MyListItem]

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=command
  command=\MyListItem]

in core-lst you can see how the alternatives are defined 

ok, let's give you a bonus (goes in cont-new): 

\unprotect 


\def\definelistplacement
 {\dodoubleempty\dodefinelistplacement}

\def\dodefinelistplacement[#1][#2]%
 {\setvalue{\@@dodolistelement#1}%
{\doifelsenothing{#2}
   {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}%
   {\executeifdefined{\@@dodolistelement#2}
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement\v!command}}}%
\setvalue{\??li\currentlist\c!command}%
  {\getvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}}%
  \setvalue{\@@dodolistelement::#1}}

\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }

\protect 

now you can say: 


\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=MyListItem,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank]

(btw, watch how one can ask for listparameters)  


\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) }

\setuplist
 [section]
 [style=\tfd,
  alternative=MyListItem,
  after=\blank,
  before=\blank]

\definelistplacement[MyListItem][none]#1#2#3%
 {\listparameter{before}
  \listparameter{style} (#1 - #2 - #3) 
  \listparameter{after}}




Hans 
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

2005-08-04 Thread Vit Zyka

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.




this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]


Thank you Hans; after some experimenting I understood:
- height and depth in \setupinterlinespace are baseline-ratio/size of 
struts (add description to tex-show)

- some my chars (/,\v S, \tfa, ...) oversized \strut size of any ratio
- list items are typeset with struts (perhaps all alternative)
- only alternative without strut is 'none' with command=\Mycommand def

So I do know how to preserve grid. But I do not know HOW TO TYPESET 
\Mycommand TO FIT THE PARAGRAPH WIDTH. It seem it is not in the 
restricted horizontal mode and continue on one long line. And another 
question/request: can the list distance param (alternative d,...) be 
glue instead of skip? For better line fitting.


example:
--
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt,height=.77,depth=.23]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\setuplist[section]
  [style=\tfd,alternative=none,command=\MyListItem]
\def\MyListItem#1#2#3{{\tfb (#1-#2-#3) }}

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}
\writetolist[section]{}{And the last one}

\lineskiplimit=-10pt
Line\par
Anothet line of \v Sejba\par

\placelist[section]

\strut  %% should be! why?
After list line.

\stoptext
--

Vit
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[NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

2005-08-03 Thread Vit Zyka

Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line setting, 
I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.

Can somebody help me, please?
vit
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist disturbs grid?

2005-08-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Hans, Taco, and the next gurus,

sorry for bother with another thing I can not understand. Very high 
glyphs like \v S disturb grid in the \placelist. The same glyph in the 
common paragraph with the same (intentionally) interline setting 
preserves grid:


---
\setupbodyfont[10pt,rm]
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes,width=8cm]
\showgrid

\writetolist[section]{}{See the next line:}
\writetolist[section]{}{\v Sejba}
\writetolist[section]{}{Another list line}

\starttext
\v Sejba\par
Here grid is OK, but in \type{placelist}:

\placelist[section]

no!
\stoptext
--
I was looking in definitions for some font-size dependent line 
setting, I also tried to

\setuplist[section]{style=\baselineskip=12pt\lineskiplimit=-10pt}
but without success to lounging on the grid.



this is the default ratio:

\setupinterlinespace
 [height=.72,
  depth=.28]

you can change that (as long as it adds up to 1.0) 

Hans 


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