Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 9 February 2016 at 13:36, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:
>
> Yes, placing your pgfplots.zip in the same directory as the source file
> solves the problem - the file compiles well with no error.
>
> What is more pure or systematic solution? For now and for one directory it
> is OK, but - for the future in general?

It would help to ask the author of pgfplots to fix the problem. I can
do a temporary workaround on the server, but it would be great to fix
it uptream.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 8 February 2016 at 16:56, Andreas Schneider wrote:
>
> FWIW, I cannot even find the module pgfplots. Apparently it is no longer in
> the modules repository (for the minimals).

For "simplicity" (should not be read as "for intuitiveness") it's
packaged together with tikz. So you would install with with
--modules=t-tikz.

> I assume it is no longer maintained. Therefore the version you use is most
> likely not matching up to the ConTeXt version you use and is only a relict
> from a time past, when the module was still available.

The last commit to the repository was at the end of January 2016 (see
https://sourceforge.net/p/pgfplots/code/ci/master/tree/), so I don't
believe the maintenance is the issue. But the cross-section of ConTeXt
users and pgfplots users might be a relatively small group.

Neither the main developer of ConTeX is using pgfplots not the
pgfplots developer uses ConTeXt, so problems only get discovered when
users report them. (And maybe we should set up some basic testing of
the modules on some server for early reporting of issues.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Andreas Schneider]

Am 2016-02-08 15:17, schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing.:

Hello,

that's strange as:

1. I renewed Context today morning;
2. I launched "context.exe --make --generate";
3. I launched "context.exe --nonstopmode Pgf.mkiv" which produces the
recently described failure.

So - can anyone confirm the same behavior
(here: WinXP 32b, ConTeXt  ver: 2016.02.06 14:06 MKIV beta  fmt:
2016.2.8  int: english/english)?

Moreover, the code runs successfully with my backup ancient version (at 
least):


"
mtx-context | run 3: luatex
--fmt="d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/W32TeX) (rev 5019)
 \write18 enabled.
open source > 1 > 1 >
d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv

ConTeXt  ver: 2014.06.17 16:53 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.6.18  int: 
english/english

"

Best regards,

Lukas


FWIW, I cannot even find the module pgfplots. Apparently it is no longer 
in the modules repository (for the minimals).
I assume it is no longer maintained. Therefore the version you use is 
most likely not matching up to the ConTeXt version you use and is only a 
relict from a time past, when the module was still available.


Best regards,
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/8/2016 11:02 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:

Hello,

the following code:


\usemodule[pgfplots]

\starttext
   aaa
\stoptext


fails with:

"
close source> 1 > 16 >
d:/Ctx-Beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv

tex error   > tex error on line 0 in file : ! Emergency stop

<*> cont-yes.mkiv
"

When I comment "\usemodule[pgfplots]", the code works fine.

What's broken?


probably your installations (maybe local files that interfere)

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[NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Procházka Lukáš Ing .]

Hello,

the following code:


\usemodule[pgfplots]

\starttext
  aaa
\stoptext


fails with:

"
close source> 1 > 16 > 
d:/Ctx-Beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv

tex error   > tex error on line 0 in file : ! Emergency stop

<*> cont-yes.mkiv
"

When I comment "\usemodule[pgfplots]", the code works fine.

What's broken?

Best regards,

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Otared Kavian]

I don’t now, the error message is similar to that obtained by Lukas: on my 
installation the typesetting freezes with this on the console:

close source> 1 > 16 > 
/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv

Best regards: OK


> On 08 Feb 2016, at 15:55, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>> […]
> 
> osx specific?
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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Procházka Lukáš Ing .]

Hello,

that's strange as:

1. I renewed Context today morning;
2. I launched "context.exe --make --generate";
3. I launched "context.exe --nonstopmode Pgf.mkiv" which produces the recently 
described failure.

So - can anyone confirm the same behavior
(here: WinXP 32b, ConTeXt  ver: 2016.02.06 14:06 MKIV beta  fmt: 
2016.2.8  int: english/english)?

Moreover, the code runs successfully with my backup ancient version (at least):

"
mtx-context | run 3: luatex 
--fmt="d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/W32TeX) (rev 5019)
 \write18 enabled.
open source > 1 > 1 > 
d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv

ConTeXt  ver: 2014.06.17 16:53 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.6.18  int: english/english
"

Best regards,

Lukas


On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:04:29 +0100, Hans Hagen  wrote:


On 2/8/2016 11:02 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:

Hello,

the following code:


\usemodule[pgfplots]

\starttext
   aaa
\stoptext


fails with:

"
close source> 1 > 16 >
d:/Ctx-Beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv

tex error   > tex error on line 0 in file : ! Emergency stop

<*> cont-yes.mkiv
"

When I comment "\usemodule[pgfplots]", the code works fine.

What's broken?


probably your installations (maybe local files that interfere)



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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Lukas,

I can confirm that your code below does not work with the latest beta ConTeXt  
ver: 2016.02.06 14:06 MKIV beta  fmt: 2016.2.8  int: english/english, on a Mac 
running Mac OS X 10.11.4.

However it works with a previous version from TeXLive.

Best regards: OK
PS: Here is the code I tested
\usemodule[pgfplots]

\starttext
 aaa
\stoptext


> On 08 Feb 2016, at 15:17, Procházka Lukáš Ing.  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> that's strange as:
> 
> 1. I renewed Context today morning;
> 2. I launched "context.exe --make --generate";
> 3. I launched "context.exe --nonstopmode Pgf.mkiv" which produces the 
> recently described failure.
> 
> So - can anyone confirm the same behavior
>   (here: WinXP 32b, ConTeXt  ver: 2016.02.06 14:06 MKIV beta  fmt: 
> 2016.2.8  int: english/english)?
> 
> Moreover, the code runs successfully with my backup ancient version (at 
> least):
> 
> "
> mtx-context | run 3: luatex 
> --fmt="d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/W32TeX) (rev 5019)
> \write18 enabled.
> open source > 1 > 1 > 
> d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv
> 
> ConTeXt  ver: 2014.06.17 16:53 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.6.18  int: english/english
> "
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lukas
> 
> 
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:04:29 +0100, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
>> On 2/8/2016 11:02 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> the following code:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \usemodule[pgfplots]
>>> 
>>> \starttext
>>>   aaa
>>> \stoptext
>>> 
>>> 
>>> fails with:
>>> 
>>> "
>>> close source> 1 > 16 >
>>> d:/Ctx-Beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv
>>> 
>>> tex error   > tex error on line 0 in file : ! Emergency stop
>>> 
>>> <*> cont-yes.mkiv
>>> "
>>> 
>>> When I comment "\usemodule[pgfplots]", the code works fine.
>>> 
>>> What's broken?
>> 
>> probably your installations (maybe local files that interfere)
> 
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/8/2016 3:31 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Lukas,

I can confirm that your code below does not work with the latest beta ConTeXt  
ver: 2016.02.06 14:06 MKIV beta  fmt: 2016.2.8  int: english/english, on a Mac 
running Mac OS X 10.11.4.

However it works with a previous version from TeXLive.

Best regards: OK
PS: Here is the code I tested
\usemodule[pgfplots]

\starttext
  aaa
\stoptext


osx specific?

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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[luigi scarso]

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Procházka Lukáš Ing. 
> 8. Februar 2016 um 15:17
> Hello,
>
> that's strange as:
>
> 1. I renewed Context today morning;
> 2. I launched "context.exe --make --generate";
> 3. I launched "context.exe --nonstopmode Pgf.mkiv" which produces the
> recently described failure.
>
> Can you put the attached files in the same directory as your test file.
>
> I commented in both files the line with the \ProvidesPackageRCS command.
>
>
they are ok here (linux-64), the file is correctly compiled.

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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Wolfgang Schuster]

luigi scarso 
8. Februar 2016 um 18:26


Can you put the attached files in the same directory as your test
file.

I commented in both files the line with the \ProvidesPackageRCS
command.


they are ok here (linux-64), the file is correctly compiled.


The problem is the date format in the rcs string:

\ProvidesPackageRCS[v\pgfversion] $Header: 
/context/mirror/tikz/cvs/pgf/generic/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz/tikz.code.tex,v 
1.164 2016-02-02 22:03:38 tantau Exp $


PGF uses / as separator in the parser (\pgf@parseid in pgfrcs.code.tex) 
and fails with the - in the string.


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \usemodule[pgfplots] fails

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:08:04 +0100
Mojca Miklavec  wrote:

> On 8 February 2016 at 16:56, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> >
> > FWIW, I cannot even find the module pgfplots. Apparently it is no
> > longer in the modules repository (for the minimals).  
> 
> For "simplicity" (should not be read as "for intuitiveness") it's
> packaged together with tikz. So you would install with with
> --modules=t-tikz.

Or the install option --modules=all


> > I assume it is no longer maintained. Therefore the version you use
> > is most likely not matching up to the ConTeXt version you use and
> > is only a relict from a time past, when the module was still
> > available.  
> 
> The last commit to the repository was at the end of January 2016 (see
> https://sourceforge.net/p/pgfplots/code/ci/master/tree/), so I don't
> believe the maintenance is the issue. But the cross-section of ConTeXt
> users and pgfplots users might be a relatively small group.
> 
> Neither the main developer of ConTeX is using pgfplots not the
> pgfplots developer uses ConTeXt, so problems only get discovered when
> users report them. (And maybe we should set up some basic testing of
> the modules on some server for early reporting of issues.)


Pgfplots is a pretty sophisticated package based on TikZ/pgf. TikZ/pgf
is a mostly LaTeX-oriented graphics package that always has had very
good ConTeXt support. Yet, it is inherently designed to deal with the
limitations of LaTeX, whereas ConTeXt integrates MetaPost as a native
graphics library.

Many users are extremely happy with TikZ. In addition, TikZ has an
excellent manual and tutorial. Pgfplots builds upon this tradition and
is also quite satisfying to many users.

I, personally, greatly prefer the MetaPost language, in particular its
ability to solve equations. This is extremely elegant and powerful, yet
is not at all intuitive for most users. The situation for plotting data
in MetaPost is much less evolved than for pgfplots. We have adapted
John Hobby's "graph" package to work properly with MetaPost's (new)
double precision mathematics system, yet it remains a fairly simple, 2D
graph macro package which does not meet all means of displaying
numerical data. Being "simple", it is also rather clever, and I find
performs rather well within its intended purpose.

Several ConTeXt users have written macros to produce other sorts of
graphs, such as bar graphs and pie charts and the like. Indeed, now
that the MetaPost library has be given a neat interface to lua, we are
able to imagine writing a comprehensive plotting package in
context/lua, using MetaPost as a drawing engine. Such a project is in
our future plans but has yet to be undertaken. Pgfplots can, and
should, serve as a good model for usage or need, but should not at all
serve as a model for implementation.

May I invite someone who uses pgfplots and ConTeXt to eventually make a
presentation at the next ConTeXt meeting? This could serve to bring the
discussion forward.

Again, TikZ and pgfplots have always provided support for ConTeXt
(including in the manuals) so they should be functional. As Mojca
states, problems do sometimes surface and we rely on users to report
them so that the two systems remain compatible.

Alan
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