Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.
Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
I was doing exactly what you did with sabon, but i was using
\pdfmapfile{+texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map} which does not work now (with
mytex) !
I have changed that to \loadmapfile[texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map] and
this works fine.
future versions of context will hide the whole map file system behind runtime
generated \pdfmapline entries; i wait with that till pdftex 1.20 is more
widespread and till dvipdfmx has this feature too
hans
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Le 17 nov. 04, à 11:53, Hans Hagen a écrit : Maurice Diamantini wrote: The objective is to had a line such source /xxx/context/setup.sh in my bashrc without worying if I (or other xTeX user) have to do either LaTeX or ConTeXt writing. Actually there has been something like that for a long time -) - when a new tex live comes out, i remove my old texmf tree and copy the texlive one to my disk (ok, for the next one i need to copy both texmf and texmf-dist to texmf on my disk) A new standard tex dist is always relatively easy to install (tetex or texlive)... - this will then include a version of context ... And there is a (old) version of context include. But it is that way I'm using context today. So far so good. And I can personnalised my LaTeX distribution by using the HOMETEXMF environment variable. - alongside i keep texmf-local and a few more (which has the beta context and such) My problem (as a NOT guru xyzTeX administrator !) is precisely that I have trouble in using a separate cont-tmf distribution in my own tex tree (trouble with creating the formats). i suppose I have to more investigate in this direction. What I'm looking for, is a mean to use: - my one cont-tmf uptodate tree, possibly with some near standard contrib addition (read soon to be include in the standard Context distrib e.g. t-bib, t-nath ;-) - some personnal environnement variables (HOMETEXMF, or better: CONTEXT_HOME) togother with any ***full standard LaTeX distribution*** wich I haven't installed myself on a workstation I don't administre myself (read in hostile environment :-). I only master my home directory. If I have to modify the texlive distribution (or a configuration file from). Then it is no more a standard texlive distrib. So the two possibilities I envisage are: 1 - managing a separate context tree package in an hostile environment (the prefered solution if robust) 2 - manage a separate full context system. It's probable the easier way to go. And for less than 100 Mbytes it is no much more heavy than the simple con-tmf plus the format. Also, if I can do a multiplatform (powerpc-darwin, x86-linux, ...) non intrusive (with concurrent LaTeX distribution), I'll can make it installed everywere (around me). I have yet to solve some confict in my environnement (because for sample the context-live setup **cleer** all environment variable which concerne LaTeX, kpath, and other HOMETEXMF variable. This second item was the main objective of this thread Now is the time... I think the work is almost done with the minimal context-live distribution. It need just some setup adjust. if you do rsync -v www.pragma-pod.com:: you will get all the trees that you can download This doen't work at work because of a firewall. I tried to use the option -e ssh which could work if you had a secure shell demond enabled. But it doesn't seem to! The a try this night at home (with free.fr) rsync -av www.pragma-pod.com::all pragma-context-all And it worked! (590 Moctets) So this week-end, I have to retry to solve the setup problems. because i seperate things in trees, there is no danger in clashes with existing stuff; also, the setup scripts set all variables in a defensive way, so that there will be no clash with other distributions (that way i can also keep several project trees with older context versions available); It a defensive way for ConTeXt user, not for LaTeX user. the reason for using architectre paths is that it permits me to have out of sync binaries which means different pool files and formats) \startLaughingMode I agree that multi-architecture is needed, but the problem with P.C users is that there is only two architecture in the world (;-) 1 - Windows 2 - the others The most advanced pc users know also about linux and even linux-64 but an architecture is a combination between some hard (sparc, powerpc, x86, 64-x86) and some operating system (linux, bsd, sunos, cygwin, darwin, ) This principle is very flexible, and support even inoperating system' (dos, dos++, windose95, windose95.2, macosClone, ...) \stopLaughingMode The best way to get an idea on how to deal which multi-architecture is to look at the config.guess and config.sub from gnu configure system (which seems used by the texlive distribution). Context need not support all the architecture combination, but should support the standard architecture system. Here are some examples of a binary tree: alpha-linux i386-linux i386-openbsd - i386-openbsd3.3 i386-openbsd3.3 powerpc-aix - powerpc-aix4.3.3.0 powerpc-aix4.3.3.0 powerpc-darwin - powerpc-darwin6.6 powerpc-darwin6.6 sparc-solaris - sparc-solaris2.7 sparc-solaris2.7 sparc64-linux win32 win32-static I have a script I use for shoosing between a few architecture. I can be be update for adapting to the supported ConTeXt binaries arctitecture. http://www.ensta.fr/~diam/pub/guessarch/ All my configure scripts use set privaded string e.g. # CONTEXT_HOME can
Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: [NTG-context] A simple project.)
Le 17 nov. 04, à 10:19, Taco Hoekwater a écrit : Maurice Diamantini wrote: So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for context, Pragma propose à **independant** context distribution which : 1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables This is the main item, because this requirement implies using non-standard executables. I agree with you that such a distribution would be a great thing to have, but unless some people are actually willing to invest (a fairly large amount of time) in it, it is simply not going to happen. Hum, I thought it would be possible to just change the name of the environment variable used be the kpsea system. But if these names are hard coded, perhaps it is still possible to patch the source for all the external tools used by context and relying on kpathsea. I suppose that Hans could do a contextize perl script which automatise this transformation from the standard tools archives. I have started a project last spring, whose goal is to deliver almost precisely a standalone, fast and idiot-proof distribution of ConTeXt, but it has been a one person affair so far, and I do not have unlimited time to spend on it. Anyway, have a look at http://www.metatex.org Woaow! This is very ambitious ! You are redoing the full tex envirenment! If you realy want to do that, you should: - first create a contributing information system (as the wiki context :-) - create an open source project on sourceforge or something like that, (this mean mailing lists, cvs access, ...) - and then call for a partitipation on comp.text.tex group. I sure there is several TeX guru interested. This project is much more that what I asked for! Cordialement, Maurice ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.
Looks like rsync does not like firewalls (could be the opposite ;) ) Now that i have the right context plateform setup and working, the question is: where is it best to install my fonts as the local tree is the one that handles context updates etc. just in case i have to reinstall every thing from scratch .. :=) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.
Dirar BOUGATEF wrote: Looks like rsync does not like firewalls (could be the opposite ;) ) Now that i have the right context plateform setup and working, the question is: where is it best to install my fonts as the local tree is the one that handles context updates etc. just in case i have to reinstall every thing from scratch .. :=) texmf-fonts Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Great. I have installed my fonts another time, i get my tfm + vfs at the right place. Have updated pdftex.cfg in C:\mytex\texmf-local\pdftex\config too with +map filename. Have updated my files databases with mktexlsr. But my font fles are not found. This is the error message i get: Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-OPN): Font texnansi-raw-OPN at 72 not f ound c:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy10.pfbc:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/b luesky/cm/cmr8.pfb Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 72 not f ound Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 58 not f ound Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 130 not found Output written on BusinessPlan.pdf (44 pages, 47617 bytes). Transcript written on BusinessPlan.log. Am i missing some else .. ? Thanks in advance .. Dirar. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.
Dirar BOUGATEF wrote: I have installed Texlive8 (Not sure wether it is the latest one. I have used TeXSetup.exe). Am using rsync as you mentioned, but seems like it does not work, this is what i get: C:\rsync2.5.1-dev -r -v www.pragma-pod.com::mswin mytex receiving file list ... rsync -v rsync version 2.6.3 protocol version 28 - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: [NTG-context] A simple project.)
Maurice Diamantini wrote: So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for context, Pragma propose à **independant** context distribution which : 1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables This is the main item, because this requirement implies using non-standard executables. I agree with you that such a distribution would be a great thing to have, but unless some people are actually willing to invest (a fairly large amount of time) in it, it is simply not going to happen. I have started a project last spring, whose goal is to deliver almost precisely a standalone, fast and idiot-proof distribution of ConTeXt, but it has been a one person affair so far, and I do not have unlimited time to spend on it. Anyway, have a look at http://www.metatex.org Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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I am wiling to do so, but i see that Texlive hasn't changed since 2003, and this is already the version i have installed 2 months ago. Is there a fresher version and does anyone knows the date where Texlive structure changed. Many thanks. Dirar. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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I have installed Texlive8 (Not sure wether it is the latest one. I have used TeXSetup.exe). Am using rsync as you mentioned, but seems like it does not work, this is what i get: C:\rsync2.5.1-dev -r -v www.pragma-pod.com::mswin mytex receiving file list ... Do i need a user account to do this .. ? Which version of rsync do you use ? Many thanks. Dirar. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Now is the time for all... ... non Context user to be able to use ConTeXt without becomming TeX expert Following the remark from Dirar about finding the last texlive distrib, I think the Context system deserves the right of being a full independant distribution which can be used independently from the other standard xTeX distributions (e.g. TeTeX, Texlive, ..) The mytex system proposed by context is a first step in that direction, but it require a setup that strongly perturbate a concurent use of LaTeX. So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for context, Pragma propose à **independant** context distribution which : 1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables 2 - anticipate the addition for new architecture (eg. linux isn't an architecture name, use powerpc-linux instead) What do need ConTeXt for itself ? 1 - an pdfetex (or pdfXXXtex) 2 - some fontes 3 - perl, ruby, tcl, ... 4 - Metapost 5 - the context TeX macro files As ConTeXt does improve much frequently than any standard LaTeX distribution, I suggest that it is easier to adapt the ConTeXt system to tetex from time to time (e.g. one time in a year) and becomme free to change the ConTeXt arborescence following the feeling from Hans. So that it will always be possible for a LaTeX user to download a full independant ConTeXt distribution, just source one of the provided setup.sh or setup.csh files, and run either the standard texlive old distribution, or its new dowloaded ConTeXt distribution without conflict. The objective is to had a line such source /xxx/context/setup.sh in my bashrc without worying if I (or other xTeX user) have to do either LaTeX or ConTeXt writing. Le 17 nov. 04, à 00:57, Dirar BOUGATEF a écrit : I am wiling to do so, but i see that Texlive hasn't changed since 2003, and this is already the version i have installed 2 months ago. Is there a fresher version and does anyone knows the date where Texlive structure changed. I second this question. I look for the texlive2004 too, but didn't found it. -- Maurice Diamantini ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] A simple project.
Hi all,
I have tried the document project on the cont-enp.pdf and am getting this
error:
texexec --pdf documents
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
inputfile : documents
output : pdftex
interface : en
current mode : none
TeX run : 1
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2)
%-line parsing enabled.
(c:/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./documents.tex{c:/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2004.8.17 int: english mes: english
language : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(c:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
! Undefined control sequence.
\@@toks -\everymathematics
\dodoappendtoks -\dodoglobal \@@toks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] \the [EMAIL PROTECTED] \@@toks \the
...
l.275 \to \everymathematics
Here are my files:
documents.tex:
\startproject documents
\product teacher
\stopproject
teacher.tex:
\startproduct teacher
\project documents
\component student
\stopproduct
student.tex:
\startcomponent student
\project documents
\product teacher
\chapter{First chapter}
\stopcomponent
What is wrong ?
Thanks in advance.
Dirar.
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Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.
Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2)
%-line parsing enabled.
(c:/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./documents.tex{c:/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2004.8.17 int: english mes: english
^
looks like an old context mixed with a new one
Hans
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Hi Hans, Looks like am never going to get out of my installation problems without getting the write way to do it. Back to Bill's mc clain method, i have done the equivalent of this in XP: mv cont-tmf.zip /usr/TeX/texmf cd /usr/TeX/texmf rm tex/context/base/*# safer to clean out old files first rm metapost/context/base/* # ...also remove metafun files rm metapost/context/*.mp # ...and any from an obsolete version unzip -a -L -o cont-tmf.zip # overwrites existing files # Edit texexec.ini afterwards? cp context/config/texexec.rme context/config/texexec.ini # Edit cont-sys.tex afterwards? Specifically: uncomment the line: # # \autoloadmapfilestrue # # For Metapost use, make sure these lines are uncommented: # # \runMPgraphicstrue # \runMPTEXgraphicstrue # \useMETAFUNformattrue cp tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex # # Edit /usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf and ensure that shell_escape = t. This # is what TeX people somewhat obscurely call write18 enabled. # export PATH=$PATH:/usr/TeX/bin/i386-linux # root doesn't have this on my system texhash texexec --make en # en = english texexec --make --alone metafun mv metafun.mem /usr/TeX/texmf-var/web2c/metafun.mem texhash exit # from su root Now, nothing changed within my context version, still ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2004.8.17 int: english mes: english. When i use a straight file (e.g AllInOneFile.tex) without the project structure another version of Context is used: ConTeXt ver: 2004.11.06 fmt: 2004.11.15 int: english mes: english Things stay the same wether i use the --pdf option or not. Many thanks :) Dirar. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Dirar BOUGATEF wrote: Hi Hans, Looks like am never going to get out of my installation problems without getting the write way to do it. Back to Bill's mc clain method, i have done the equivalent of this in XP: an option is (assuming that you have rsync running): c: cd \ mkdir mytex rsync -r -v www.pragma-pod.com::mswin mytex cd mytex setuptex texexec --make --alone --all and voila you have a running system (like i have) (updating is then also rather efficient) c:\mytex\setuptex c:\mytex can then be udes any time. rsync www.pragma-pod.com:: gives a list of other trees that can be downloaded. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.
Thanks for the rsync stuff, i have started looking at it. I first need to know how things work in their basic way. I don't understand why my update didn't work as i did everything the way i was asked. And now, Pdftex doesn't find my fonts anymore :) It is turning to a nightmare. Is all of this because of the new way Texlive works now ? _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
