Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Hi all, Can someone explain what the difference between 'ord' and 'alpha' are in the following two lines is? \definemathsymbol [Gamma] [ord] [mc] [00] \definemathsymbol [Gamma] [alpha] [mi] [00] Note that using the first line, in place of the second in math-fou.tex allows me to get what is shown in the ThisWay document on bold math. That is, all calitalized Greek characters are upright, not slanted and I no longer have missing characters. Cheers, Randall ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
I think I've found my problem (finally). The problem is in
'type-enc.tex' I referred to the standard text fonts for
Fourier-Math-Letters and Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold instead of the true
math fonts. I believe this is how ConTeXt is configured in its
default... In any case, 'type-enc.tex' should contain:
\starttypescript [math] [fourier] [default,ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futmi] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic] [futmii]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension] [fourier-mex]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [boldmath,bfmath] [fourier] [default,ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [futmib] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] [futmiib]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension][fourier-mex]
\stoptypescript
The substitution problem can be seen quite clearly from:
\starttext
\loadmapfile[fourier]
% Original definition
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futr8t]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic] [futmii]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold][futb8t]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] [futmiib]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension] [fourier-mex]
\section{Fourier-Math-Letters}
\showfont[Fourier-Math-Letters]
\section{Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic}
\showfont[Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic]
\section{Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold}
\showfont[Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold]
\section{Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold}
\showfont[Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold]
\section{Fourier-Math-Symbols}
\showfont[Fourier-Math-Symbols]
\section{Fourier-Math-Extension}
\showfont[Fourier-Math-Extension]
% What about these fonts?
\section{futmi}
\showfont[futmi]
\section{futmib}
\showfont[futmib]
\stoptext
Many thanks to those who replied,
Randall
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Le 11/07/2005 17:41, Randall Skelton a dit : I think I've found my problem (finally). The problem is in 'type-enc.tex' I referred to the standard text fonts for Fourier-Math-Letters and Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold instead of the true math fonts. I believe this is how ConTeXt is configured in its default... In any case, 'type-enc.tex' should contain: \starttypescript [math] [fourier] [default,ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futmi] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic] [futmii] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension] [fourier-mex] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [boldmath,bfmath] [fourier] [default,ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [futmib] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] [futmiib] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension][fourier-mex] \stoptypescript Hmm... As I said, I don't know much about context. But consider that Math-Letters is an operator font. If you choose futmi as your opérator font, something like \cos will be italicised ! Now (one of) the difference between fourier and computer modern is that capital greek is in the italic font not in the operators font. This is handled in math-fou.tex: \definemathsymbol [Gamma] [alpha] [mi] [00] Note that futmi, and futmii (or futmib futmiib) are two versions of the same font (same encoding): the difference is that in futmmii all is slanted (even greek caps), and in futmii caps are upright (roman and greek) and lowercase are slanted. If you want command definitions in math-fou.tex to be used even in boldmath, you must change type-spe.tex by referencing the fou math collection in boldmath too. -- Michel Bovani ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Many thanks for pointing this out Michel. I must admit that this is proving to be much more complicated than I thought... Reading Hans' ThisWay document makes it appear that getting usable bold-faced math fonts is only a few lines of definitions... perhaps I should just look at buying the lucida collection. For the moment, I've settled on a compromise of using: \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futr8t] [encoding=ec] and \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [futmib] [encoding=ec] With this I can get bold greek symbols (both upper and lower case) but as you pointed out, operators will be italicized if one isn't careful. Sigh. Now (one of) the difference between fourier and computer modern is that capital greek is in the italic font not in the operators font. This is handled in math-fou.tex: \definemathsymbol [Gamma] [alpha] [mi] [00] In an earlier reply, you suggest that I define: \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [futb8t] [encoding=ec] but doing so doesn't work as the capital greek symbols... I'm a little confused why the substitutions defined in math-fou.tex are not applied in this case? I need bold \Gamma and \Xi characters in my equations which is why I began looking at all this. I did read through math-fou.tex and mat-lbr.tex but didn't follow some of the definitions. I don't understand why the \definemathsymbol definitions are not applied in this case? I tried to find insight in math-lbr.tex but just got confused. Note that futmi, and futmii (or futmib futmiib) are two versions of the same font (same encoding): the difference is that in futmmii all is slanted (even greek caps), and in futmii caps are upright (roman and greek) and lowercase are slanted. I finally realized that when I remembered the existance of \showfont earlier today. This also helped me see where the \definemathsymbol statements in math-fou.tex come from. If you want command definitions in math-fou.tex to be used even in boldmath, you must change type-spe.tex by referencing the fou math collection in boldmath too. I'm not sure I follow. My type-spe.tex contains: \starttypescript [math,boldmath] [fourier] [special] \usemathcollection[fou] \stoptypescript Many thanks for your help. Randall ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Le 8/07/2005 20:16, Randall Skelton a dit : Hi all, Does anyone know how to setup fourier to have boldfaced symbols (both greek and roman) using the Fourier font? I've read through the Mixed Normal and Bold Math doc, but I cannot seem to get bold to work at all with the Fourier font. Heck, I cannot even get the boldmath definition to stop substituting with cm! I know fourier very well, but I am *not* a context user... I think you have to modify type-spe.tex \starttypescript [math,boldmath] [fourier] [special] \usemathcollection[fou] \stoptypescript %% Was %% \starttypescript [math] [fourier] [special] %% \usemathcollection[fou] %% \stoptypescript Then just add in type-enc.tex \starttypescript [boldmath] [fourier] [default,ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [futb8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] [futmiib] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension] [fourier-mex] \stoptypescript in type-sync.tex \starttypescript [boldmath] [fourier] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Fourier-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Fourier-Math-Extension] \stoptypescript It seems to work, but it is not strongly tested... -- Michel Bovani ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Randall Skelton said this at Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:57:29 -0400: \starttypescript [bfmath] [fourier] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Fourier-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Fourier-Math-Extension] \stoptypescript I've included a quick test below. When I run it, I get all the fonts being bold and some Greek symbols are missing after the \bfm command. Any ideas? Yes. That last typescript you list should be: \starttypescript [bfmath] [fourier] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRomanBold] [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] \definefontsynonym [MathItalicBold][Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbolBold][Fourier-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathExtensionBold] [Fourier-Math-Extension] \stoptypescript You were redefining the normal math options to be the bold fonts. The above typescript uses the named MathBlahBold slots, to be called with \bfm. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Thank you Adam! My problem of the perpetual bold characters is now
solved. My *last* problem is that I get strange characters in place
of bold upper-case Greek characters (\Gamma, \Xi, etc)? The
lower-case Greeks work fine. This has all the halmarks of an encoding
problem but I'm not entirely sure where to look? Do I need to edit
math-fou.tex? As long as I don't need to change font-bfm.tex...
Many thanks for the helpful replies.
Cheers,
Randall
In type-enc.tex:
\starttypescript [math] [fourier] [default,ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futr8t] [encoding=ec]
%\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futmi]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic] [futmii]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension] [fourier-mex]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [boldmath,bfmath] [fourier] [default,ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [futb8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] [futmiib]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension][fourier-mex]
\stoptypescript
In type-syn.tex:
\starttypescript [boldmath] [fourier] [name]
\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Fourier-Math-Symbols]
\definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Fourier-Math-Extension]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [bfmath] [fourier] [name]
\definefontsynonym [MathRomanBold] [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [MathItalicBold][Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [MathSymbolBold][Fourier-Math-Symbols]
\definefontsynonym [MathExtensionBold] [Fourier-Math-Extension]
\stoptypescript
In type-exa.tex:
\starttypescript [fourier] %[texnansi,ec,8r]
\definetypeface [fourier] [rm] [serif] [fourier] [default]
%[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\definetypeface [fourier] [tt] [mono] [fourier] [default]
%[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\definetypeface [fourier] [ss] [sans] [fourier] [default]
%[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [fourier] %[texnansi,ec,8r]
\definetypeface [fourier] [mm] [math] [fourier] [default]
%[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [fourierboldmath] %[texnansi,ec,8r]
\definetypeface [fourierboldmath] [rm] [serif][fourier]
[default] %[encoding=\typescripttwo] % ?
\definetypeface [fourierboldmath] [tt] [mono] [fourier]
[default] %[encoding=\typescripttwo] % ?
\definetypeface [fourierboldmath] [ss] [sans] [fourier]
[default] %[encoding=\typescripttwo] % ?
\definetypeface [fourierboldmath] [mm] [boldmath] [fourier]
[default] %[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [fourierbfm,fourierboldmath] %[texnansi,ec,8r]
\definetypeface [fourier] [mm] [bfmath] [fourier] [default]
%[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\definetypeface [fourierboldmath] [mm] [bfmath] [fourier] [default]
%[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [fourier,fourierabfm,fourierboldmath] %[texnansi,ec,8r]
\usemathcollection[fou]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
START: test.tex
\usetypescript[fourier]
\usetypescript[fourierbfm]
\usetypescript[fourierboldmath]
\setupformulas[method=bold]
\setupbodyfont[fourier]
\starttext
More testing...
\formula[fourier]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x}
\formula[fourier]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x {\bfm \alpha \beta \Gamma
\sigma \Xi} 2x}
\formula[fourierboldmath]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x \bfm \alpha \beta \Gamma
\sigma \Xi 2x}
\formula[fourierboldmath]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x \alpha {\bfm \beta
\Gamma} \sigma \Xi 2x}
\stoptext
END: test.tex
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Hi all,
A pdf of my output can be found at:
http://brutus.uwaterloo.ca/~skelton/ConTeX/test.pdf
Despite more fiddling, I'm at a loss as to what has happend to the
capital greek characters when using bold math?
Cheers,
Randall
NB: I entered:
\usetypescript[fourier]
\usetypescript[fourierbfm]
\usetypescript[fourierboldmath]
\setupformulas[method=bold]
\setupbodyfont[fourier]
\starttext
More testing...
\formula[fourier]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x}
\formula[fourier]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x {\bfm \alpha \beta \Gamma
\sigma \Xi} 2x}
\formula[fourierboldmath]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x \bfm \alpha \beta \Gamma
\sigma \Xi 2x}
\formula[fourierboldmath]
{2x \alpha \beta \Gamma \sigma \Xi 2x = 2x \alpha {\bfm \beta
\Gamma} \sigma \Xi 2x}
\formula[fourier]
{\Gamma \Delta \Theta \Lambda \Xi \Pi \Sigma \Upsilon \Phi \Psi \Omega
\alpha \beta \gamma \delta \epsilon \zeta \eta \theta \iota \kappa
\lambda \mu \nu \xi \pi \rho \sigma \tau \upsilon \phi \chi \psi
\partial}
\formula[fourier]
{\bfm \Gamma \Delta \Theta \Lambda \Xi \Pi \Sigma \Upsilon \Phi \Psi \Omega
\alpha \beta \gamma \delta \epsilon \zeta \eta \theta \iota \kappa
\lambda \mu \nu \xi \pi \rho \sigma \tau \upsilon \phi \chi \psi
\partial}
\formula[fourierboldmath]
{\Gamma \Delta \Theta \Lambda \Xi \Pi \Sigma \Upsilon \Phi \Psi \Omega
\alpha \beta \gamma \delta \epsilon \zeta \eta \theta \iota \kappa
\lambda \mu \nu \xi \pi \rho \sigma \tau \upsilon \phi \chi \psi
\partial}
\formula[fourierboldmath]
{\bfm \Gamma \Delta \Theta \Lambda \Xi \Pi \Sigma \Upsilon \Phi \Psi \Omega
\alpha \beta \gamma \delta \epsilon \zeta \eta \theta \iota \kappa
\lambda \mu \nu \xi \pi \rho \sigma \tau \upsilon \phi \chi \psi
\partial}
\stoptext
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Bold Greek Math with Fourier Font
Hi all, Does anyone know how to setup fourier to have boldfaced symbols (both greek and roman) using the Fourier font? I've read through the Mixed Normal and Bold Math doc, but I cannot seem to get bold to work at all with the Fourier font. Heck, I cannot even get the boldmath definition to stop substituting with cm! I've changed 'tex/context/base/type-syn.tex' and 'tex/context/base/type-enc.tex' to provide boldmath/bfmath definitions as below. Despite 3 hours of fiddling, I'm getting substitution with computer modern when I try and the boldmath definition in test.tex (below). I hope this isn't a case of me not reading the docs carefully enough... Any and all help greatly appreciated. Cheers, Randall % START tex/context/base/type-enc.tex ... % Fourier (Utopia) \starttypescript [math] [fourier] [default,ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futr8t] %\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters] [futmi] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic] [futmii] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension] [fourier-mex] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [boldmath,bfmath] [fourier] [default,ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold] [fourier-mlb] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic-Bold] [fourier-mlitb] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Symbols] [futsy] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Math-Extension][fourier-mex] \stoptypescript % fourier virtual fonts: % futb8c.vf futbi9d.vf futc9c.vf futr8t.vf futri8t.vf futroorn.vf futsi9e.vf % futb8t.vf futbi9e.vf futc9d.vf futr9c.vf futri9c.vf futrorn.vf futso9c.vf % futb9c.vf futbo8c.vf futc9e.vf futr9d.vf futri9d.vf futs9c.vf futso9d.vf % futb9d.vf futbo8t.vf futcorn.vf futr9e.vf futri9e.vf futs9d.vf futso9e.vf % futb9e.vf futbo9c.vf futmi.vf futrc8t.vf futro8c.vf futs9e.vf futsoorn.vf % futbc8t.vf futbo9d.vf futmib.vf futrc9d.vf futro8t.vf futsc9d.vf futsorn.vf % futbi8c.vf futbo9e.vf futmii.vf futrc9e.vf futro9c.vf futsc9e.vf futsy.vf % futbi8t.vf futboorn.vf futmiib.vf futrd8t.vf futro9d.vf futsi9c.vf % futbi9c.vf futborn.vf futr8c.vf futri8c.vf futro9e.vf futsi9d.vf % map file has: %fourier-bb Fourier-Math-BlackBoard fourier-bb.pfb %fourier-mcl Fourier-Math-Cal fourier-mcl.pfb %fourier-mex Fourier-Math-Extension fourier-mex.pfb %fourier-ml Fourier-Math-Letters fourier-ml.pfb %fourier-mlit Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic fourier-mlit.pfb %fourier-mlb Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold fourier-mlb.pfb %fourier-mlitb Fourier-Math-Letters-Bold-Italic fourier-mlitb.pfb %fourier-ms Fourier-Math-Symbols fourier-ms.pfb \starttypescript [serif] [fourier] [ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular] [futr8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Slanted] [futro8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Italic] [futri8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-RegularCaps] [futrc8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Bold] [futb8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldSlanted] [futbo8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldItalic] [futbi8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldCaps] [futbc8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular-Expert] [futr9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Slanted-Expert] [futro9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Italic-Expert][futri9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-RegularCaps-Expert] [futrc9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Semi-Expert] [futs9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiSlanted-Expert] [futso9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiItalic-Expert][futsi9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiCaps-Expert] [futsc9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Bold-Expert] [futb9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldSlanted-Expert] [futbo9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldItalic-Expert][futbi9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Black-Expert] [futc9e] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular-OldStyle] [futr9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Slanted-OldStyle] [futro9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Italic-OldStyle] [futri9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-RegularCaps-OldStyle] [futrc9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Semi-OldStyle][futs9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiSlanted-OldStyle] [futso9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiItalic-OldStyle] [futsi9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiCaps-OldStyle][futsc9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym [Fourier-Bold-OldStyle][futb9d] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym
