Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> And what would be the opposite? >> >> For example \startquote ... \stopquote >> to something like {\MyQuote ... } > > AFAIK, there is no easy way to do this. One can use \aftergroup trickery. \def\MyQuote{\symbol[leftquote]\aftergroup\endMyQuote} \def\endMyQuote{\symbol[rightquote]} \starttext {\MyQuote This is a test} \mainlanguage[fr] {\MyQuote This is a test} \stoptext Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > Am 13.08.2006 um 15:29 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: > >> And what would be the opposite? >> >> For example \startquote ... \stopquote >> to something like {MyQuote ... } >> >> Steffen > > > \def\MyQuote#1{\startquote#1\stopquote} > > \MyQuote{something to be quoted} > > > ... should work OK, right? Yes, there is also \def\MyQuote{\groupedcommand{\startquote}{\stopquote}} which does not read the argument and is better in some cases. Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
Am 13.08.2006 um 15:29 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: > And what would be the opposite? > > For example \startquote ... \stopquote > to something like {MyQuote ... } > > Steffen \def\MyQuote#1{\startquote#1\stopquote} \MyQuote{something to be quoted} ... should work OK, right? Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
> And what would be the opposite? > > For example \startquote ... \stopquote > to something like {\MyQuote ... } AFAIK, there is no easy way to do this. Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
Am 10.08.2006 um 22:47 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > You can always define your own startstop. > > \definestartstop[italic][before={\bgroup \it},after={\egroup}] > > and then do > > \startitalic > This is italic > \stopitalic > > When a command takes an optional agrument, you can do use something > like > this > > \def\startfootnote% > {\unskip\dosingleempty\dostartfootnote} > > \def\dostartfootnote[#1]#2\stopfootnote% >{\footnote[#1]{#2}} And what would be the opposite? For example \startquote ... \stopquote to something like {MyQuote ... } Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
Thank you. \footnote \index \chapter\section ... \it \bf \sc \mr \cap \language[...] That would be quite a good start. Steffen Am 10.08.2006 um 22:44 schrieb Hans Hagen: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in >> formatting: >> >> ... >> ... >> ... >> >> But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax "}". That >> makes reading the code not easier. >> >> Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the >> examples above), >> so that finding a "}" in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what >> it's about? >> >> But in such a way that the file still can be processed as a regular >> ConTeXt file? >> > its' no problem to define most commands as start/stop, however keep in > mind that some start/stop constructs (like tables) pick up pieces in > order to store them > > so, if some commands need start/stop variants ... just make me a list > and we'll see what we can do about it > > Hans > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in > formatting: > > ... > ... > ... > > But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax "}". That > makes reading the code not easier. You can always define your own startstop. \definestartstop[italic][before={\bgroup \it},after={\egroup}] and then do \startitalic This is italic \stopitalic When a command takes an optional agrument, you can do use something like this \def\startfootnote% {\unskip\dosingleempty\dostartfootnote} \def\dostartfootnote[#1]#2\stopfootnote% {\footnote[#1]{#2}} You can make such definitions of all your frequently used environments (or, if you prefer, write in XML and let ConTeXt handle XML). > Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the > examples above), > so that finding a "}" in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what > it's about? There are \bgroup...\egroup which is same as {...} for all practical purposes. Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in > formatting: > > ... > ... > ... > > But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax "}". That > makes reading the code not easier. > > Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the > examples above), > so that finding a "}" in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what > it's about? > > But in such a way that the file still can be processed as a regular > ConTeXt file? > its' no problem to define most commands as start/stop, however keep in mind that some start/stop constructs (like tables) pick up pieces in order to store them so, if some commands need start/stop variants ... just make me a list and we'll see what we can do about it Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)
Hi, in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in formatting: ... ... ... But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax "}". That makes reading the code not easier. Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the examples above), so that finding a "}" in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what it's about? But in such a way that the file still can be processed as a regular ConTeXt file? Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context