Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-08 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/7/2013 12:07 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

On Wed, Nov 06 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:


One year ago we used a different method (less robust). The current mechanism
assumes equal width digits but nevertheless forces [tnum=yes,lnum=no] so if
you get weird widths it's a font issue and you nee to make sure that somehow
you force it to use equal width digits.


Unfortunately I don't know how to do that... :(

Does it mean, that the only solution is to use an older ConTeXt version?
Or is there perhaps another work-around?


it's unfortunate that this font defaults to oldstyle (which makes one 
wonder what the onum feature in it is supposed to do)


i now changed the place where the align kicks in, which of course will 
have other side effects (one being less robust)


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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Fri, Nov 08 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

 i now changed the place where the align kicks in, which of course will have
 other side effects (one being less robust)

Hi Hans,

Thanks for your efforts, the alignment works now as expected!

You're right, there are side effects, the first digits are blue:
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/context-tnum/constantia-tnum-2013-11-08.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-06 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/5/2013 9:56 PM, Peter Münster wrote:

On Tue, Nov 05 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:


That was already solved a while ago, driven by:

% \enabletrackers[typesetters.characteralign.autofont]

which is enabled by default. It's about the most I can do about it.


Hi Hans,

I'm sure, that you can do much better, because there was no such problem
about one year ago. Please find here a test file, the font, and the
outputs for versions 2012.12.10 and 2013.11.05:

http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/context-tnum/

TIA for any further help,


One year ago we used a different method (less robust). The current 
mechanism assumes equal width digits but nevertheless forces 
[tnum=yes,lnum=no] so if you get weird widths it's a font issue and you 
nee to make sure that somehow you force it to use equal width digits. 
(Some fonts do weird things with oldstyle for instance).


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-06 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Nov 06 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

 One year ago we used a different method (less robust). The current mechanism
 assumes equal width digits but nevertheless forces [tnum=yes,lnum=no] so if
 you get weird widths it's a font issue and you nee to make sure that somehow
 you force it to use equal width digits.

Unfortunately I don't know how to do that... :(

Does it mean, that the only solution is to use an older ConTeXt version?
Or is there perhaps another work-around?

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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-05 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/4/2013 11:14 PM, Peter Münster wrote:


Any news about this issue? Can it be solved? Should I add it to the
tracker?


That was already solved a while ago, driven by:

% \enabletrackers[typesetters.characteralign.autofont]

which is enabled by default. It's about the most I can do about it.

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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-05 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Nov 05 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

 That was already solved a while ago, driven by:

 % \enabletrackers[typesetters.characteralign.autofont]

 which is enabled by default. It's about the most I can do about it.

Hi Hans,

I'm sure, that you can do much better, because there was no such problem
about one year ago. Please find here a test file, the font, and the
outputs for versions 2012.12.10 and 2013.11.05:

http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/context-tnum/

TIA for any further help,
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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-11-04 Thread Peter Münster
Hi Hans,

Any news about this issue? Can it be solved? Should I add it to the
tracker?

TIA for any hints,
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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 21.10.2013 um 00:55 schrieb Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

 On 10/21/2013 7:44 AM, Peter Münster wrote:
 Hi,
 
 aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 \definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
 \setupbodyfont[mainface]
 \setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
 \starttext
 \startbuffer
   \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
 \stopbuffer
 \getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
 \stoptext
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 Please find attached the pdf file.
 
 How could I solve this problem please?
 
 when making examples, use fonts that are available ... (as I have no time to 
 find a variant on my system that has a similar problem as the font used by 
 you)


You can use Constantia for the example.

\definefontfeature[tnum][tnum=yes]

\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\startbuffer
\bTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
\bTR
\bTD 111.111 \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD 444.444 \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stopbuffer

\starttext

\getbuffer

\feature[+][tnum]

\getbuffer

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Peter Münster
Hi,

aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:

--8---cut here---start-8---
\definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
\starttext
\startbuffer
  \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
\stoptext
--8---cut here---end---8---

Please find attached the pdf file.

How could I solve this problem please?

TIA for any hints,
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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10/21/2013 7:44 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

Hi,

aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:

--8---cut here---start-8---
\definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
\starttext
\startbuffer
   \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
\stoptext
--8---cut here---end---8---

Please find attached the pdf file.

How could I solve this problem please?


when making examples, use fonts that are available ... (as I have no 
time to find a variant on my system that has a similar problem as the 
font used by you)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10/21/2013 8:04 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 21.10.2013 um 00:55 schrieb Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:


On 10/21/2013 7:44 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

Hi,

aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:

--8---cut here---start-8---
\definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
\starttext
\startbuffer
   \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
\stoptext
--8---cut here---end---8---

Please find attached the pdf file.

How could I solve this problem please?


% \setupbodyfont[pagella]

\definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[inlinenumbers]  [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
\definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]

\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\starttext

\setupTABLE
  [alignmentcharacter=.,
   aligncharacter=yes]

\startbuffer
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD  11.111 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD   2.2   \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\par
1234567890\par
00\par
11\par
44
\blank
\stopbuffer

\start
inlinenumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[inlinenumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop

\start
tabularnumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[tabularnumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop

\start
oldstylenumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[oldstylenumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop

\start
oldstylenumbers + inlinenumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[oldstylenumbers]
\addfeature[inlinenumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop

\start
oldstylenumbers + tabularnumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[oldstylenumbers]
\addfeature[tabularnumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Oct 21 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

 How could I solve this problem please?

 \definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
 \definefontfeature[inlinenumbers]  [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
 \definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]

 \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
 \setupbodyfont[mainface]

 [...]

Hi Hans,

Does your answer mean, that you cannot reproduce the problem?
I've tried with Constantia, and I get the same horizontal shift as in my
previous example PDF file. My ConTeXt version is 2013.10.20 07:09

I attach a new PDF file with Constantia (from my Windows-XP installation).

Is there a problem with my fonts?

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10/21/2013 10:03 PM, Peter Münster wrote:

On Mon, Oct 21 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:


How could I solve this problem please?


\definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[inlinenumbers]  [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
\definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]

\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]

[...]


Hi Hans,

Does your answer mean, that you cannot reproduce the problem?
I've tried with Constantia, and I get the same horizontal shift as in my
previous example PDF file. My ConTeXt version is 2013.10.20 07:09

I attach a new PDF file with Constantia (from my Windows-XP installation).


this is what i get


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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10/21/2013 10:03 PM, Peter Münster wrote:

On Mon, Oct 21 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:


How could I solve this problem please?


\definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[inlinenumbers]  [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
\definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]

\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]

[...]


Hi Hans,

Does your answer mean, that you cannot reproduce the problem?
I've tried with Constantia, and I get the same horizontal shift as in my
previous example PDF file. My ConTeXt version is 2013.10.20 07:09

I attach a new PDF file with Constantia (from my Windows-XP installation).

Is there a problem with my fonts?


this kind of mechanimns assume equal width digits so we might need to 
force lnum


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] tnum and aligncharacter=yes

2013-10-21 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Oct 22 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

 this is what i get

Ok, but you use LM instead of Constantia...

pdffonts oeps.pdf :
name type  encoding emb sub 
uni object ID
 -  --- --- 
--- -
KQRURB+LMSans10-Regular  CID Type 0C   Identity-H   yes yes 
yes 18  0

pdffonts test.pdf :
name type  encoding emb sub 
uni object ID
 -  --- --- 
--- -
CZUMAG+ConstantiaCID TrueType  Identity-H   yes yes 
yes 18  0

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