Re: [NTG-context] Sorting question
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2006-01-23 um 01:08 schrieb Vit Zyka: ä (adiaeresis) is identical to a, ö (odiaeresis) identical to o, ü (udiaeresis) identical to u, the same for uppercase. ß (ssharp) is edentical to ss (same for uppercase, but in uppercase it's written as SS anyway). Hmmm, that is not complete: I understand that every ü, Ü, u, U comes to single group, but is uüUÜ? Let say yes. Then try I didn't test your code, but u, ü, U and Ü should be handled as same (in normal German order) and u=U, ü=ue=Ü=Ue=UE in German phone book order. Hmmm, I feel that the situation is more complicated (same as in Czech). Proper sorting needs several (3 or 4, perhaps some languages more?) passes: 1. pass: division - define which letters comes to the same group (it can be also group of letters) - defined for newtexutil.rb 2. pass: sorting with the simplified rules e.g. ü=ue=Ü=Ue=UE 3. pass: if all letter are the same according the 2. pass, then apply e.g. üueÜUeUE 4. ??? (perhaps problems with Czech 'Ch'). After that: 'Üb' 'üz' 'Üz' Greetlings from Lake Constance! Enjoy it. Vit ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Sorting question
Bernd Militzer wrote:
Hello,
is it possible to produce a sorted list without unsing the entry
\Ueberall in text?
%
\definesorting[person][personen]
\setupsorting[person][criterium = all]
%
\person{Unsinn, Klaus}
\person{Militzer, Bernd}
\person{Horten, Hans}
\person[Ueberall]{Überall, Heinrich}
%
\placelistofpersonen
Any ideas?
We need to define (German?) sorting rules for newtexexec (newtexutil).
Tell me in between 'Ü' have to be sorted I will try to prepare a code
for this rule.
Vit
Thanks, Bernd
%#ConTeXt
%
% allgemeine Grundeinstellung
%
\enableregime[windows] % Eingabe-Codierung
\mainlanguage[de] % Sprachmodus
\usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
%
% Die besondere Seitenanpassung
%
\setuppapersize[a4][a4]
\setuplayout[location=singlesided]
\setuplayout[
backspace=2.46cm,topspace=1.2cm,
top=0cm,bottom=0cm,topdistance=0cm,bottomdistance=0cm,
header=1.5cm,footer=1.0cm,headerdistance=0cm,footerdistance=0cm,
leftedge=0cm,rightedge=0cm,leftedgedistance=0cm,rightedgedistance=0cm,
leftmargin=1.5cm,rightmargin=1.0cm,leftmargindistance=0.42cm,rightmargindistance=0.42cm,
width=16.5cm,height=27.4cm,
]
%
%
% Z�hler f�r die lfdNr.
%
\global\newcount\xlfd \xlfd=0
%
\def\LFD{\futurelet\testchar\MitOptArgLFD}
%
\def\MitOptArgLFD{\ifx[\testchar%
\let\next\OptArgLFD \else %
\let\next \NoOptArgLFD \fi \next}
%
% setzte den Z�hler auf bestimmten Wert
%
\def\OptArgLFD[#1]{%
{\global\xlfd=\number#1}
}
%
% erh�he den Wert um 1
% und gebe den Z�hler aus
% Besonderheit
% zweistellige Ausgabe der Zahl also 01., 02. ... 10. 11. ...
% und Punkt
%
\def\NoOptArgLFD{%
{\global\advance\xlfd by 1\relax}
\ifnum\xlfd10
0\fi
\number\xlfd.
}
%
%Linie nach dem Namen
%
\def\myrule{ {\thinrules[n=1]\par}}
%
%
%
\starttext
%
%
% 1. ex no prob
%
\definesorting[personA][personenA]
\setupsorting[personA][criterium = all,before=\LFD,after=\myrule]
\personA{Unsinn, Klaus}
\personA{Militzer, Bernd}
\personA{Horten, Hans}
\placelistofpersonenA
\page
% 2. ex prob �berall on wrong position
%
\definesorting[personB][personenB]
\setupsorting[personB][criterium = all,before=\LFD,after=\myrule]
\personB{Unsinn, Klaus}
\personB{Militzer, Bernd}
\personB{Horten, Hans}
\personB{�berall, Heinrich}
\placelistofpersonenB
\page
% 3. ex prob �berall is missing
%
\definesorting[personC][personenC]
\setupsorting[personC][criterium = all,before=\LFD,after=\myrule]
\personC{Unsinn, Klaus}
\personC{Militzer, Bernd}
\personC{Horten, Hans}
\personC[Ueberall]{�berall, Heinrich}
\placelistofpersonenC
\page
% 4. ex prob �berall is missing
%
\definesorting[personD][personenD]
\setupsorting[personD][criterium = all,before=\LFD,after=\myrule]
\personD{Unsinn, Klaus}
\personD{Militzer, Bernd}
\personD{Horten, Hans}
\personD[Ueberall]{�berall, Heinrich}
First I use \Ueberall\ in text
\placelistofpersonenD
\page
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Sorting question
On 1/22/06, Vit Zyka wrote: We need to define (German?) sorting rules for newtexexec (newtexutil). Tell me in between 'Ü' have to be sorted I will try to prepare a code for this rule. ä (adiaeresis) is identical to a, ö (odiaeresis) identical to o, ü (udiaeresis) identical to u, the same for uppercase. ß (ssharp) is edentical to ss (same for uppercase, but in uppercase it's written as SS anyway). Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Sorting question
Am 2006-01-22 um 20:36 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: We need to define (German?) sorting rules for newtexexec (newtexutil). Tell me in between 'Ü' have to be sorted I will try to prepare a code for this rule. ä (adiaeresis) is identical to a, ö (odiaeresis) identical to o, ü (udiaeresis) identical to u, the same for uppercase. ß (ssharp) is edentical to ss (same for uppercase, but in uppercase it's written as SS anyway). Additionally there's the 'phone book' sorting, where ä = ae, ö = oe, ü = ue, ß = ss The former should be default, the latter an option. Other accented characters same as unaccented (in both sortings). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Sorting question
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 1/22/06, Vit Zyka wrote:
We need to define (German?) sorting rules for newtexexec (newtexutil).
Tell me in between 'Ü' have to be sorted I will try to prepare a code
for this rule.
ä (adiaeresis) is identical to a, ö (odiaeresis) identical to o, ü
(udiaeresis) identical to u, the same for uppercase. ß (ssharp) is
edentical to ss (same for uppercase, but in uppercase it's written
as SS anyway).
Hmmm, that is not complete: I understand that every ü, Ü, u, U comes to
single group, but is uüUÜ? Let say yes. Then try
--
\input sort-ini.tex
\useregime[win]
\enableregime[windows] % Eingabe-Codierung
\mainlanguage[de] % Sprachmodus
\usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
\startmode[sortorder-de]
\exportsortexpansion{u}{u+1}
\exportsortexpansion{udiaeresis}{u+2}
\exportsortexpansion{U}{u+3}
\exportsortexpansion{Udiaeresis}{u+4}
\exportsortdivision{u+1}{u}
\exportsortdivision{u+2}{u}
\exportsortdivision{u+3}{u}
\exportsortdivision{u+4}{u}
\stopmode
\setmode{sortorder-de}
\starttext
\definesorting[person][personen]
\setupsorting[person][criterium = all]
%\def\person#1{#1\expanded{\index{#1}}, }
%\def\person#1{#1\index{#1}, }
\person{Unsinn, Klaus}
\person{Militzer, Bernd}
\person{Horten, Hans}
%\person{Überall, Heinrich}
\person{\Udiaeresis berall, Heinrich}
Index:
\placelistofpersonen
%\placeindex[alternative=A]
\stoptext
--
Comments:
- newtexexec is needed!
- works for both index/sorting
- works only for \Udiaeresis not for direct Ü! Strange! Why?
Vit
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Re: [NTG-context] Sorting question
Am 2006-01-23 um 01:08 schrieb Vit Zyka: ä (adiaeresis) is identical to a, ö (odiaeresis) identical to o, ü (udiaeresis) identical to u, the same for uppercase. ß (ssharp) is edentical to ss (same for uppercase, but in uppercase it's written as SS anyway). Hmmm, that is not complete: I understand that every ü, Ü, u, U comes to single group, but is uüUÜ? Let say yes. Then try I didn't test your code, but u, ü, U and Ü should be handled as same (in normal German order) and u=U, ü=ue=Ü=Ue=UE in German phone book order. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
