Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:23, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` not. I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? I think your expectations may be at fault. In ConTeXt, ` is not open quote, it is backtick. If you want an open quote, you have to type one. Typeset this text to see what I mean: \starttext ` Backtick\crlf ' Apostrophe\crlf ‘ Open curly quote\crlf ’ Close curly quote \stoptext If you actually want backtick, perhaps you could say what you think is wrong with it in Palatino? mathew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 mathew m...@pobox.com On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:23, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` not. I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? I think your expectations may be at fault. You are completely right. That is why a mailing list like this is useful. ;-} In ConTeXt, ` is not open quote, it is backtick. If you want an open quote, you have to type one. Typeset this text to see what I mean: \starttext ` Backtick\crlf ' Apostrophe\crlf ‘ Open curly quote\crlf ’ Close curly quote \stoptext If you actually want backtick, perhaps you could say what you think is wrong with it in Palatino? Wrong is maybe not the correct word, but when compiling this code: \starttext ` Backtick\crlf ' Apostrophe\crlf ‘ Open curly quote\crlf ’ Close curly quote ‘some quoted text’ “some doublequoted text” \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] ‘some quoted text’ “some doublequoted text” \stoptext Then I find the font from palatino better looking, but the default quotes better as the palatino's. I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again. Attached my Xmopdmap.extra which incorperates these single and double quotes. -- Cecil Westerhof Xmodmap.extra Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
Am 23.03.2011 um 17:23 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but `
not.
I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best
(standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed?
How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the used
TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating System.
I made a short document with a few fonts: http://d.pr/h5tE
Source:
\newcounter\FontTestCounter
\define[1]\FontTest
{\increment\FontTestCounter
\definetypeface[mainface-\FontTestCounter][rm][specserif][#1]
\switchtobodyfont[mainface-\FontTestCounter]
\title{#1}
\startpacked
` Backtick\par
' Apostrophe\par
‘ Open curly quote\par
’ Close curly quote\par
- hyphen\par
– en dash\par
— em dash
\stoppacked
\blank
“Quote” and „quote“ and «more quotes»}
\starttext
\FontTest{Aller}
…
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed 23 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
Pont
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:49, Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote:
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
Now why the heck aren't those commands mentioned anywhere in Context
- An Excursion?
mathew
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` not. I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the used TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating System. I work with minimals. How do I get the list? I made a short document with a few fonts: http://d.pr/h5tE I choose (based on your document) ‘PT Serif’ for the moment. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed 23 Mar 2011, mathew wrote: Now why the heck aren't those commands mentioned anywhere in Context - An Excursion? Not sure, but the Excursion is quite old and probably not intended to be comprehensive. They're covered in the reference manual. Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net
On Wed 23 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
Did not know that. Am I going to do.
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net
I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
It looks like \quotation does what I want, but \quote puts the opening quote
low and the wrong way around. How can I change this? I find:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupquote
not very helpful.
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
Am 23.03.2011 um 21:13 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
2011/3/23 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net
I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
It looks like \quotation does what I want, but \quote puts the opening quote
low and the wrong way around. How can I change this? I find:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupquote
not very helpful.
\setuplanguage
[language]
[leftquote=...,
rightquote=...,
leftquotation=...,
rightquotation=...]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
Am 23.03.2011 um 21:02 schrieb Cecil Westerhof: 2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` not. I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the used TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating System. I work with minimals. How do I get the list? Look into the fonts folders. We can make a list of the available fonts with their typescripts/typefaces and put them on the wiki. There is also a list in Hans/Tacos new fonts manual. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
It looks like \quotation does what I want, but \quote puts the opening
quote low and the wrong way around. How can I change this? I find:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupquote
not very helpful.
\setuplanguage
[language]
[leftquote=...,
rightquote=...,
leftquotation=...,
rightquotation=...]
Works. Thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com 2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` not. I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the used TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating System. I work with minimals. How do I get the list? Look into the fonts folders. I suppose you mean: texmf/fonts/? There I see: drwxrwxr-x 5 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 afm drwxrwxr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 enc drwxrwxr-x 4 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 map drwxr-xr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 19 jan 2009 misc drwxrwxr-x 5 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 opentype drwxrwxr-x 5 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 tfm drwxrwxr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 9 okt 12:42 truetype drwxrwxr-x 7 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 type1 drwxr-xr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2009 vf We can make a list of the available fonts with their typescripts/typefaces and put them on the wiki. Would be a good idea. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
Now why the heck aren't those commands mentioned anywhere in Context
- An Excursion?
I remembered seeing these commands somewhere, so I searched in the
wiki and found them:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Basic_Text_Formatting
Miguel
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