[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
-- Original Message -- From "Henning Hraban Ramm" mailto:te...@fiee.net>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 10/24/2023 8:04:34 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Am 24.10.23 um 15:33 schrieb Hamid,Idris: Hi Otared, Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that look? Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf. I checked on MacOS with Preview, Acrobat Pro and PDF Studio – no bars in your PDF. But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine, ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19 Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there something from a local/personal texmf tree? Many thanks, Henning. I tried remaking the format, updating -- to no avail. The log doesn't seem to show anything unusual, no texmf-project files, etc. Finally, I shutdown and restarted the system, on the premise that some pdf library or other file is acting up. And voila! it seems to work now -- see attached. It remains a mystery as to what could possibly have caused this problem, or why a system restart made it go away. Hopefully the problem will not return, but we'll see.. Thanks to all who replied. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 test-sidebar.pdf Description: test-sidebar.pdf ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
Am 24.10.23 um 15:33 schrieb Hamid,Idris: Hi Otared, Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that look? Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf. I checked on MacOS with Preview, Acrobat Pro and PDF Studio – no bars in your PDF. But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine, ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19 Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there something from a local/personal texmf tree? Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
Hi Otared, Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that look? Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf. Best wishes Idris -- Original Message -- From "Otared Kavian" mailto:ota...@gmail.com>> To "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>>; "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 10/24/2023 7:18:40 AM Subject Re: [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Hi Idris, Your code works fine on my machine (version 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX on MacOS 11.7.10). I see both bars correctly. Best regards: Otared On 24 Oct 2023, at 02:24, Hamid,Idris mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>> wrote: Dear gang, The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE: == % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] \starttext \startmarginrule[1] \input ward \stopmarginrule \blank \startsidebar[Sidebar] \input zapf \stopsidebar \stoptext == In the output, either i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). Is is a bug? A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use? Thank you in advance for any guidance. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl<https://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / https://context.aanhet.net<https://context.aanhet.net/> (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net<https://wiki.contextgarden.net/> ___ Otared Kavian e-mail: ota...@gmail.com<mailto:ota...@gmail.com> Phone: +33 6 88 26 70 95 -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
Hi Idris, Your code works fine on my machine (version 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX on MacOS 11.7.10). I see both bars correctly. Best regards: Otared > On 24 Oct 2023, at 02:24, Hamid,Idris wrote: > > Dear gang, > > The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. > MWE: > > == > % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX > > \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] > > \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] > \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] > > \starttext > \startmarginrule[1] > \input ward > \stopmarginrule > > \blank > > \startsidebar[Sidebar] > \input zapf > \stopsidebar > \stoptext > == > > In the output, either > > i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or > ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as > the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). > > Is is a bug? > > A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In > LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use? > > Thank you in advance for any guidance. > > Best wishes > -- > Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor > Department of Philosophy > Colorado State University > Fort Collins, CO 80523 > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > <https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl> > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl <https://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / > https://context.aanhet.net <https://context.aanhet.net/> (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > <https://github.com/contextgarden/context> > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/> > ___ Otared Kavian e-mail: ota...@gmail.com Phone: +33 6 88 26 70 95 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 10/24/2023 6:17:24 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** On 10/24/2023 1:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: -- Original Message -- From "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu><mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>> To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl><mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 10/23/2023 6:24:38 PM Subject [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working Dear gang, The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE: == % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] \starttext \startmarginrule[1] \input ward \stopmarginrule \blank \startsidebar[Sidebar] \input zapf \stopsidebar \stoptext == In the output, either i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). Is this a bug? maybe your viewer is bugged Before sending to the list, I tested the pdf in sumatra (default), adobe, and nitropdf - same result. If three distinct viewers don't show it, then something else must be wrong. Could you open the pdf I sent to the list? What do you see? Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
On 10/24/2023 1:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: -- Original Message -- From "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>> To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 10/23/2023 6:24:38 PM Subject [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working Dear gang, The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE: == % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] \starttext \startmarginrule[1] \input ward \stopmarginrule \blank \startsidebar[Sidebar] \input zapf \stopsidebar \stoptext == In the output, either i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). Is this a bug? maybe your viewer is bugged Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
-- Original Message -- From "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>> To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 10/23/2023 6:24:38 PM Subject [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working Dear gang, The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE: == % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] \starttext \startmarginrule[1] \input ward \stopmarginrule \blank \startsidebar[Sidebar] \input zapf \stopsidebar \stoptext == In the output, either i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). Is this a bug? A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use? Thank you in advance for any guidance. Here is the pdf that is a result of the MWE above: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r18ao8dhpz8m5cj3jk7kv/test-sidebar.pdf?rlkey=slgmiu2wst5xfv3adydhbprj4=0 Also attached. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 test-sidebar.pdf Description: test-sidebar.pdf ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working
Dear gang, The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE: == % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] \starttext \startmarginrule[1] \input ward \stopmarginrule \blank \startsidebar[Sidebar] \input zapf \stopsidebar \stoptext == In the output, either i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). Is is a bug? A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use? Thank you in advance for any guidance. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Marginrule levels after \placefigure[right]
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Hi,
This is based on a question on TeX.SE
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/326653/context-wrapfigure-interacts-with-marginrule
All marginrules except those of level 1 stop working after
\placefigure[right]. Here is a minimal example:
\useexternalfigure[ctanlion][http://www.ctan.org/lion/ctan_lion_350x350.png][width=4cm]
\starttext
\placefigure[here,none,right]{}{\externalfigure[ctanlion]}
\input knuth
\startmarginrule[2]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\startmarginrule[1]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\startmarginrule[3]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\stoptext
The output is attached.
The attached patch seems to fix the bug.
Aditya*** /opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/anch-bar.mkiv 2016-08-28 16:55:00.0 -0400
--- anch-bar.mkiv 2016-08-28 16:52:47.0 -0400
***
*** 111,118
\advance\d_anch_sidebars_distance\scratchdistance\relax
\fi
\else
\ifnum\m_level=\plusone
-\scratchdimen\sidebarparameter\c!leftmargindistance\relax
\ifdim\scratchdimen=\zeropoint
\advance\d_anch_sidebars_distance\scratchdistance\relax
\else
--- 111,118
\advance\d_anch_sidebars_distance\scratchdistance\relax
\fi
\else
+ \scratchdimen\sidebarparameter\c!leftmargindistance\relax
\ifnum\m_level=\plusone
\ifdim\scratchdimen=\zeropoint
\advance\d_anch_sidebars_distance\scratchdistance\relax
\else
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[NTG-context] Marginrule levels after \placefigure[right]
Hi,
This is based on a question on TeX.SE
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/326653/context-wrapfigure-interacts-with-marginrule
All marginrules except those of level 1 stop working after
\placefigure[right]. Here is a minimal example:
\useexternalfigure[ctanlion][http://www.ctan.org/lion/ctan_lion_350x350.png][width=4cm]
\starttext
\placefigure[here,none,right]{}{\externalfigure[ctanlion]}
\input knuth
\startmarginrule[2]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\startmarginrule[1]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\startmarginrule[3]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\stoptext
The output is attached.
Aditya
min.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] marginrule does not work properly in wiki
Hello, The following example does not work properly in wiki (the rule is missed), while in mkIV it's OK. \starttext \startmarginrule The sound of a duck is a good demonstration of how different people listen to a sound. Everywhere in Europe the sound is equal. But in every country it is described differently: kwaak||kwaak (Netherlands), couin||couin (French), gick||gack (German), rap||rap (Danish) and mech||mech (Spanish). If you speak these words aloud you will notice that in spite of the consonants the sound is really very well described. And what about a cow, does it say boe, mboe or mm? \stopmarginrule \stoptext http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/startmarginrule Regards, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] marginrule does not work properly in wiki
Looks like I understood the reason. It's not visible because it's inside the margin, and wiki does margins. :) Am I right? Hello, The following example does not work properly in wiki (the rule is missed), while in mkIV it's OK. \starttext \startmarginrule The sound of a duck is a good demonstration of how different people listen to a sound. Everywhere in Europe the sound is equal. But in every country it is described differently: kwaak||kwaak (Netherlands), couin||couin (French), gick||gack (German), rap||rap (Danish) and mech||mech (Spanish). If you speak these words aloud you will notice that in spite of the consonants the sound is really very well described. And what about a cow, does it say boe, mboe or mm? \stopmarginrule \stoptext http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/startmarginrule Regards, Vyatcheslav -- Best Regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
