Re: [NTG-context] [OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not

2013-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/23/2013 8:25 PM, Renaud Aubin wrote:

Le 23/11/2013 19:08, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

Am 23.11.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Renaud Aubin r...@renaud.io:


Hi folks,

I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by
Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further.
Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a
daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab
(either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package).

Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new
note EditText and I see it everyday!

$ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab

robotoslab  robotoslabbold  RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf
robotoslabbold  robotoslabbold  RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf
robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf
robotoslabregular   robotoslabregular   RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf
robotoslabthin  robotoslabthin  RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf

OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to
use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon).
At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm
curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic
features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot).
I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete)
and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there
I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab
Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond
to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic
features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No,
I must be wrong here too…

Any thoughts on The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!“?


The font has no italic but inkscape slants the regular and bold styles to get 
them,
you can do the same in context with the slant key from \definefontfeature.

\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]

\definefontfamily[roboto][rm][Roboto 
Slab][it=features:slanted,bi=features:slanted]

\setupbodyfont[roboto]

\starttext
Regular {\it Italic} {\bf Bold} {\bi BoldItalic}
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Thank you Wolfgang,

I've made a repo: https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context
Reviews are always welcome!

Any chance that this typescript could find a way to the main ConTeXt distro?


normally typescripts like that end up in tex/context/third (maybe at 
some point we can collect extra typescripts in one package)


a few suggestions:

\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]

best define roboto-slanted as you don't want to overload other 
definitions of slanted and this is rather font specific .. and are you 
sure you want base mode here?


\definefontfeature[roboto-slanted][slant=.25]

\definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [\s!Serif] 
[\s!features={default,roboto-slanted}]


should also work and delays default

also, name type typescript type-imp-roboto.tex (or .mkiv)

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not

2013-11-24 Thread Renaud Aubin
Hi Hans,

Thank you for the review and your suggestions!

Le 24/11/2013 12:53, Hans Hagen a écrit :

 normally typescripts like that end up in tex/context/third (maybe at
 some point we can collect extra typescripts in one package)

https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/1

Extra typescripts collection is a good idea. I have at least some
typescripts here for Minion, Meta, frutiger, …
Any other contributed typescripts are welcome!


 a few suggestions:

 \definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]

 best define roboto-slanted as you don't want to overload other
 definitions of slanted and this is rather font specific .. and are you
 sure you want base mode here?

https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/2


 \definefontfeature[roboto-slanted][slant=.25]

 \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [\s!Serif]
 [\s!features={default,roboto-slanted}]

 should also work and delays default

RobotoSlab doesn't get slanted without mode=base and/or
features={default,roboto-slanted}. I can't explain why but maybe
Wolfgang could explain since he is the one who provided the solution in
the first place.

https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/3
https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/4


 also, name type typescript type-imp-roboto.tex (or .mkiv)

https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/1


 Hans


Best Regards,

Renaud

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not

2013-11-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 24.11.2013 um 12:53 schrieb Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

 Any chance that this typescript could find a way to the main ConTeXt distro?
 
 normally typescripts like that end up in tex/context/third (maybe at some 
 point we can collect extra typescripts in one package)

I can add it to my typescript collection.

 a few suggestions:
 
 \definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]
 
 best define roboto-slanted as you don't want to overload other definitions 
 of slanted and this is rather font specific .. and are you sure you want base 
 mode here?

Yes it is necessary because it doesn’t work when you use node mode.

 \definefontfeature[roboto-slanted][slant=.25]
 
 \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [\s!Serif] 
 [\s!features={default,roboto-slanted}]
 
 should also work and delays default

This older doesn’t work, only with “robot-slanted,default” the font gets 
slanted.

 also, name type typescript type-imp-roboto.tex (or .mkiv)

Why *imp* for third party typescripts?

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not

2013-11-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.11.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Renaud Aubin r...@renaud.io:

 Hi folks,
 
 I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by
 Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further.
 Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a
 daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab
 (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package).
 
 Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new
 note EditText and I see it everyday!
 
 $ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab
 
 robotoslab  robotoslabbold  RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf
 robotoslabbold  robotoslabbold  RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf
 robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf
 robotoslabregular   robotoslabregular   RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf
 robotoslabthin  robotoslabthin  RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf
 
 OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to
 use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon).
 At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm
 curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic
 features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot).
 I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete)
 and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there
 I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab
 Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond
 to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic
 features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No,
 I must be wrong here too…
 
 Any thoughts on The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!“?


The font has no italic but inkscape slants the regular and bold styles to get 
them,
you can do the same in context with the slant key from \definefontfeature.

\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]

\definefontfamily[roboto][rm][Roboto 
Slab][it=features:slanted,bi=features:slanted]

\setupbodyfont[roboto]

\starttext
Regular {\it Italic} {\bf Bold} {\bi BoldItalic}
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not

2013-11-23 Thread Renaud Aubin
Le 23/11/2013 19:08, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
 Am 23.11.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Renaud Aubin r...@renaud.io:

 Hi folks,

 I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by
 Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further.
 Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a
 daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab
 (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package).

 Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new
 note EditText and I see it everyday!

 $ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab

 robotoslab  robotoslabbold  RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf
 robotoslabbold  robotoslabbold  RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf
 robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf
 robotoslabregular   robotoslabregular   RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf
 robotoslabthin  robotoslabthin  RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf

 OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to
 use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon).
 At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm
 curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic
 features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot).
 I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete)
 and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there
 I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab
 Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond
 to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic
 features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No,
 I must be wrong here too…

 Any thoughts on The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!“?

 The font has no italic but inkscape slants the regular and bold styles to get 
 them,
 you can do the same in context with the slant key from \definefontfeature.

 \definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]

 \definefontfamily[roboto][rm][Roboto 
 Slab][it=features:slanted,bi=features:slanted]

 \setupbodyfont[roboto]

 \starttext
 Regular {\it Italic} {\bf Bold} {\bi BoldItalic}
 \stoptext

 Wolfgang
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Thank you Wolfgang,

I've made a repo: https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context
Reviews are always welcome!

Any chance that this typescript could find a way to the main ConTeXt distro?

Renaud

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