Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:17:41PM +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Apparently not, again for some reason I'd always the feeling that they are not interested in feedback I wonder how you got that feeling if you never made contact with them... I'm still wondering too.

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen
On 13-4-2010 8:07, Khaled Hosny wrote: Apparently not, again for some reason I'd always the feeling that they are not interested in feedback (I also usually try to provide fixes with my bug reports, but I can't really do here). If you'd met them in person you'd probably written your mails

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 04:21:27PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 13-4-2010 8:07, Khaled Hosny wrote: Apparently not, again for some reason I'd always the feeling that they are not interested in feedback (I also usually try to provide fixes with my bug reports, but I can't really do here).

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-14 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
but for several personal reasons I can't join any of the international TeX user groups I don't know what your reasons are, but you realize that you can't blame the user groups for your not wanting to join, right? TUG sends its publication worldwide at its own expenses,

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 13-4-2010 12:58, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:41:59PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 12-4-2010 9:43, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marco wrote: With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
this is not the place to elaborate on this (more for the usual font bof session at bachotek) but to some extend it's a packaging issue: why a full smallcaps embedded but not an italic Actually, you can do that with OpenType: there is an 'ital' feature, and using it would allow to embed

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:13:49PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 13-4-2010 12:58, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:41:59PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 12-4-2010 9:43, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marco wrote: With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I don't go to TeX conferences, so mailing lists is the only place I can discuss such stuff, and TeX Gyre fonts don't have a mailing list, AFAIK. You can write to the TeX Gyre team... Arthur ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:48:27PM +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: this is not the place to elaborate on this (more for the usual font bof session at bachotek) but to some extend it's a packaging issue: why a full smallcaps embedded but not an italic Actually, you can do that with

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.04.10 21:23, schrieb Marco: With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp (smallcapitals) and c2sc (capitals to smallcapitals) features. Thanks for your explanation. But why doesn't your example work with the latin modern fonts? Don't

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 13-4-2010 12:48, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: this is not the place to elaborate on this (more for the usual font bof session at bachotek) but to some extend it's a packaging issue: why a full smallcaps embedded but not an italic Actually, you can do that with OpenType: there is an 'ital'

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
italic correction or italic alternates? Italic alternates. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_fj.htm#ital Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 13-4-2010 1:03, Khaled Hosny wrote: Fontforge in script mode does not require X, mingw is enough, and AFAIK latest FF CVS can be compiled under mingw without patching. One can always run FF under some virtual machine etc. But to run Windows I need a Windows license which I cannot afford.

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen
On 13-4-2010 1:54, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: italic correction or italic alternates? Italic alternates. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_fj.htm#ital interesting is that combining them in one font can help kerning although kerning in cjk is not much of an issue

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 02:00:39PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 13-4-2010 1:03, Khaled Hosny wrote: They already shipped glyphs with such poor artistic value, being in the Ghostscript fonts is not an excuse, they could have resorted to the original URW fonts, which were released under GPL, from

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 01:06:47PM +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't go to TeX conferences, so mailing lists is the only place I can discuss such stuff, and TeX Gyre fonts don't have a mailing list, AFAIK. You can write to the TeX Gyre team... And their contact info is listed in...

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: BTW, I just checked ghostscript fonts shipped with my distro and they don't have any of the crappy Greek glyphs TeX Gyre have (neither do the files linked from TeX Gyre web page), so I don't know from where TeX Gyre got those. I contacted

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Khaled Hosny wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 01:06:47PM +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't go to TeX conferences, so mailing lists is the only place I can discuss such stuff, and TeX Gyre fonts don't have a mailing list, AFAIK. You can write to the TeX Gyre team... And their contact

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
And their contact info is listed in... ? The TeX Gyre page starts with a list of names. And the first paper in the Readings section lists e-mail addresses. Have you tried contacting them? Arthur ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:33:22PM +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: BTW, I just checked ghostscript fonts shipped with my distro and they don't have any of the crappy Greek glyphs TeX Gyre have (neither do the files linked from TeX Gyre

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:37:04PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 01:06:47PM +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't go to TeX conferences, so mailing lists is the only place I can discuss such stuff, and TeX Gyre fonts don't have a mailing list,

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:51:48PM +0200, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: And their contact info is listed in... ? The TeX Gyre page starts with a list of names. And the first paper in the Readings section lists e-mail addresses. Have you tried contacting them? Apparently not, again for some

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-13 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Apparently not, again for some reason I'd always the feeling that they are not interested in feedback I wonder how you got that feeling if you never made contact with them... (I also usually try to provide fixes with my bug reports, but I can't really do

[NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Marco
Hi, I wanted to wikify the command »\nocap« and tried it out. But it does seen to have any effect, see the example from the manual: \starttext \cap {People that have gathered their \cap {capital} at the cost of other people are not seldom \nocap {decapitated} in revolutionary times.} \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.04.10 15:47, schrieb Marco: Hi, I wanted to wikify the command »\nocap« and tried it out. But it does seen to have any effect, see the example from the manual: \starttext \cap {People that have gathered their \cap {capital} at the cost of other people are not seldom \nocap {decapitated}

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12-4-2010 7:26, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 12.04.10 15:47, schrieb Marco: \unexpanded\def\notsmallcapped{\groupedcommand{\setcharactercasing[\plustwo]\char\zerocount}{}} added -

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Marco
With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp (smallcapitals) and c2sc (capitals to smallcapitals) features. Thanks for your explanation. But why doesn't your example work with the latin modern fonts? Don't they have these features? I'd be

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marco wrote: With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp (smallcapitals) and c2sc (capitals to smallcapitals) features. Thanks for your explanation. But why doesn't your example work with the

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12-4-2010 9:43, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marco wrote: With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp (smallcapitals) and c2sc (capitals to smallcapitals) features. Thanks for your explanation. But why doesn't

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:41:59PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 12-4-2010 9:43, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marco wrote: With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp (smallcapitals) and c2sc (capitals to

Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work

2010-04-12 Thread Marco
They don't have a small caps OpenType feature (smcp) for a reason beyond to me, they however have an old-fashioned separate small caps font. this is because they are cm compatible (the initial objective of the project was a merge of all those variants) Thanks for the explanation. I