Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 04.09.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Taco Hoekwater : > \definenarrower[myquote] > \setupnarrower[myquote] > [left=2em, > right=1.5em, > before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquote, > after=\stopquote] > > \startmyquote > Im übrigen ist der Mensch ein Lebewesen, das klopft, schlechte Musik

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 04.09.2020 um 16:20 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster > : > > \startsetups [userdata:myquote] > \startnarrow [left=2em,right=1.5em] > %\dontleavehmode\llap{\symbol[leftquotation]}\getinlineuserdata\symbol[rightquotation] > \symbol[leftquotation]\getinlineuserdata\symbol[rightquotation]

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 04.09.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Taco Hoekwater : > > Something like this? > > \definenarrower[myquote] > \setupnarrower[myquote] > [left=2em, > right=1.5em, > before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquote, > after=\stopquote] > > \startmyquote > Im übrigen ist der Mensch ein

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 04.09.2020 um 15:34: Am 04.09.2020 um 13:25 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm : My current book contains a lot of quotations with their sources marked as footnotes, e.g. \definedelimitedtext[Zitat][ %setups=Zitat, % doesn’t work!? left=», right=«,

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Something like this? \definenarrower[myquote] \setupnarrower[myquote] [left=2em, right=1.5em, before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquote, after=\stopquote] \startmyquote Im übrigen ist der Mensch ein Lebewesen, das klopft, schlechte Musik macht und seinen Hund bellen läßt.

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 04.09.2020 um 13:25 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm : > > My current book contains a lot of quotations with their sources marked as > footnotes, e.g. > > > \definedelimitedtext[Zitat][ > %setups=Zitat, % doesn’t work!? > left=», > right=«, > leftmargin=2em, > rightmargin=1.5em, > ] >

[NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
My current book contains a lot of quotations with their sources marked as footnotes, e.g. \definedelimitedtext[Zitat][ %setups=Zitat, % doesn’t work!? left=», right=«, leftmargin=2em, rightmargin=1.5em, ] \startZitat A rose is a rose is a rose.\footnote{Marx brothers} \stopZitat

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2020-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/17/2020 8:11 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It's possible to use leaders to remove multiple dashes and also dashes at the end of a paragraph but this will only work for the PDF. A limitation is that you can't use the existing \speech and \aside commands because they use groups which

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2020-01-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hans Hagen schrieb am 30.12.2019 um 10:19: On 12/30/2019 5:03 AM, Sam May wrote: \setuplanguage[en] [leftquotation=\quotedash~, rightquotation=~\quotedash, leftsentence=\removeunwantedspaces~\endash\space, midsentence=\removeunwantedspaces~\endash\space, %   

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2019-12-30 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12/30/2019 5:03 AM, Sam May wrote: \setuplanguage[en] [leftquotation=\quotedash~, rightquotation=~\quotedash, leftsentence=\removeunwantedspaces~\endash\space, midsentence=\removeunwantedspaces~\endash\space, % leftsentence=\endash~, %

[NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2019-12-29 Thread Sam May
Any of you able to help me get my quotation dashes into line when automatically inserted by the semantic commands? I'm sure a number of you look at this style and cringe, but A. I'm not looking for grammatical input, and B. I'm intending this for a non-English language where the quotation dash

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi Wolfgang, thanks for your reply. You are right. I shoud say "looks correct" or something like that. Best regards, Atsuhito Kohda ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, thanks for all replies. > indeed. `` and '' are (in tex) pseudo ligatures and not really a > portable standard, certainly not now that we have utf8 as input (in a > similar fashion users who need accented characters will not use \"u and > \'a any more) In fact, I don't know how to input

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Atsuhito Kohda schrieb am 20.07.2019 um 01:58: Hi all, I think in the same way as Dmitry. It might be obsolete but, as far as I searched, under the setup \definefontfeature [texligatures] [tlig=yes] \feature[+][texligatures] {''} produces right quotation correctly but left quotation seems not

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Denis Maier
Another option: Use the fabulous csquotes-package and map \quotation to \enquote: => ``` \usepackage{csquotes} \let\quotation=\enquote ``` Denis Am Sa., 20. Juli 2019 um 02:57 Uhr schrieb Hans Hagen : > On 7/20/2019 2:07 AM, Alan Braslau wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 > >

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/20/2019 2:07 AM, Alan Braslau wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 Atsuhito Kohda wrote: It is true quotes are language dependent but sometime we need language independent quotes. So it will be nice if we can use {``}, {''} and \quotation at the same time “” indeed. `` and ''

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > It is true quotes are language dependent but sometime we need > language independent quotes. So it will be nice if we can use > {``}, {''} and \quotation at the same time “”

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, I think in the same way as Dmitry. It might be obsolete but, as far as I searched, under the setup \definefontfeature [texligatures] [tlig=yes] \feature[+][texligatures] {''} produces right quotation correctly but left quotation seems not correct (I don't know why). It is true quotes are

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/19/2019 6:21 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:54:08 +0300 Dmitry Starostin wrote: I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write a

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Alan Braslau
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:54:08 +0300 Dmitry Starostin wrote: > I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, > but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation > is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write a draft in ConTeXt > and make the final

[NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Dmitry Starostin
I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write a draft in ConTeXt and make the final variant in pdfLatex. Is there a ready solution for the quotation marks

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-25 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 10/24/2017 09:51 PM, Christoph Reller wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:31:24 +0200 Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > [...] > Thank you Pablo for pointing me to the developer's mailing list. I have > not thought about searching through that. So, this is good news for me > and I will wait for the fix.

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-24 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 10/24/2017 07:05 AM, Christoph Reller wrote: > [...] > Thank you Pablo for confirming this! > > Does anybody know whether this is a bug or whether it is the wrong way > to enable font-based kerning for quotations? Hi Christoph, from the devel mailing list

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-23 Thread Christoph Reller
Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:21:25 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 10/23/2017 09:03 AM, Christoph Reller wrote: >> [...] >> Could you please confirm (or deny) that the following MWE produces an >> error with the currently latest version of ConTeXt: >> >> \setupquotation[method=font] >>

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-23 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 10/23/2017 09:03 AM, Christoph Reller wrote: > [...] > Could you please confirm (or deny) that the following MWE produces an > error with the currently latest version of ConTeXt: > > \setupquotation[method=font] > \starttext > \quotation{A} > \stoptext Hi Christoph, I’m afraid it fails: tex

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-23 Thread Christoph Reller
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM Christoph Reller wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:53:56 +0200 Floris van Manen > wrote: > >> >> > On 19 Oct 2017, at 11:33, Christoph Reller >> wrote: >> > >> >

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-19 Thread Christoph Reller
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:53:56 +0200 Floris van Manen wrote: > > > On 19 Oct 2017, at 11:33, Christoph Reller > wrote: > > > > \setupquotation[method=font] > > what is the intension of the method=font ? > > Hi Floris, Thank you for asking.

[NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-17 Thread Christoph Reller
Hi, In previous versions of ConTeXt the following MWE worked: \setupquotation[method=font] \starttext \quotation{A} \stoptext In more recent versions, the above produces an error: ! Extra }, or forgotten \endgroup l.3 \quotation{A} Is this a bug? Regards, Christoph

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation blocs with repetition symbol in the left column

2014-06-01 Thread Stéphane Goujet
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014, Stéphane Goujet wrote: I am trying to typeset old books and I chose to keep close to the original typography. = 1) It must work when starting from a new line as well as when starting from the middle of the current line. 2 different environments are allowed.

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-12-25 um 17:25 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: Nearly all of the hundreds of fraktur-fonts in the world have problems, as reported by the program fontforge. But even worse, mostly there is a lack of umlauts, 2 of 3 needed different s and a lack of ligatures. And only very,

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Rudolf Bahr
Hello Hraban, thank you for answering! The Fraktur fonts differ in many things from each other. I forgot to mention the feature of automatic choice of ligatures when they appear in the text. So it's a matter of not to be forced to change too much in a given text. I solved my problem within 10

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 26.12.2013 um 19:56 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: Hello Hraban, thank you for answering! The Fraktur fonts differ in many things from each other. I forgot to mention the feature of automatic choice of ligatures when they appear in the text. So it's a matter of not to be

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Rudolf Bahr
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:30PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Have you tried the unifraktur fonts, as you can see on the website the font has features to change the umlauts and also to replace the normal s with the long s. \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Unifraktur Maguntia]

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-12-27 um 04:18 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: In yfrak I have to describe in a special manner end s and umlauts with a little e on top too, but its very easy and short: middle s = s, the normal one, ends = s: ä = ä or *a, ö = ö or *o and so forth. The only error

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 26.12.2013 um 23:18 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:30PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Have you tried the unifraktur fonts, as you can see on the website the font has features to change the umlauts and also to replace the normal s with the long s.

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Rudolf Bahr
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:30PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: This is the answer of my context (version: 2013.05.28 00:36): l.2 \definefontfamily [mainface][rm][Unifraktur Maguntia] ? h The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-25 Thread Rudolf Bahr
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:38:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 22.12.2013 um 11:26 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: In the following minimal example I'd like to get quotation marks around the Nein!, but I don't:

[NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-22 Thread Rudolf Bahr
In the following minimal example I'd like to get quotation marks around the Nein!, but I don't: \starttext \language[de] \pdfmapline{yfrak yfrak.pfb} \definefont[YfrakFont][yfrak at 11pt] \YfrakFont Zu meinem Vorschlag sagte das:

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.12.2013 um 11:26 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: In the following minimal example I'd like to get quotation marks around the Nein!, but I don't: \starttext \language[de] \pdfmapline{yfrak yfrak.pfb}

[NTG-context] quotation marks for language latin

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, Hans, in lang-def.mkiv (line 623) and and lang-ita.mkii (line 101), we have \installlanguage % the same as italian [\s!la] [\c!rightquote=\lowerrightsingleninequote, \c!rightquotation=\lowerrightdoubleninequote, ... This can't possibly be right (is there a language which has

Re: [NTG-context] quotation marks for language latin

2011-05-01 Thread Hans Hagen
On Sunday 01/05/2011 at 4:09 pm, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, Hans, in lang-def.mkiv (line 623) and and lang-ita.mkii (line 101), we have \installlanguage % the same as italian [\s!la] [\c!rightquote=\lowerrightsingleninequote, \c!rightquotation=\lowerrightdoubleninequote,

Re: [NTG-context] quotation marks for language latin

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On May 1, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On Sunday 01/05/2011 at 4:09 pm, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, Hans, in lang-def.mkiv (line 623) and and lang-ita.mkii (line 101), we have \installlanguage % the same as italian [\s!la]

[NTG-context] \quotation and figure

2009-05-21 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo, isn't this a very old bug with \quotation and \placefigure? \starttext \placefigure[left]{Bla}{\externalfigure[dummy][height=.3\textheight,wi dth=.3\textwidth]} \quotation{\input tufte } \stoptext Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation and figure

2009-05-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 21.05.2009 um 22:22 schrieb Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini: Hallo, isn't this a very old bug with \quotation and \placefigure? \starttext \placefigure[left]{Bla}{\externalfigure[dummy][height=.3\textheight,wi dth=.3\textwidth]} \quotation{\input tufte } \dontleavehmode\quotation{\input tufte

Re: [NTG-context] quotation/blockquote bug

2007-12-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \def\delimitedtext[#1]% {\bgroup \pushdelimitedtext{#1}% \doifelse{\delimitedtextparameter\c!method}\s!font {\dofontdrivendelimited} {\doifinsetelse{\delimitedtextparameter\c!location}{\v!paragraph, \v!margin}%

[NTG-context] quotation/blockquote bug

2007-12-27 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear syndicate, There is a bug in \quotation and/or \blockquote (pdf attached): there is a spurious dbl-quote mark at the end of the par that only occurs when \quotation is invoked. Please advise, workarounds welcome :-) Best wishes Idris % engine=luatex

Re: [NTG-context] quotation/blockquote bug

2007-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:32:59 -0700 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear syndicate, There is a bug in \quotation and/or \blockquote (pdf attached): there is a spurious dbl-quote mark at the end of the par that only occurs when \quotation is invoked. Please advise,

Re: [NTG-context] quotation/blockquote bug

2007-12-27 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:15:22 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your example is too long, I could reproduce this also with the folowing short example. \startquotation text \quote{text} text\stopquotation Indeed, much more to the point :-) The wrong right values did only

Re: [NTG-context] quotation/blockquote bug

2007-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:43 -0700 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:15:22 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your example is too long, I could reproduce this also with the folowing short example. \startquotation text \quote{text}

Re: [NTG-context] quotation/blockquote bug

2007-12-27 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:05:09 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a bug in here I think: ConTeXt validation gives error in file qabas-test.tex at line 6 in column 3: missing } for { error in file qabas-test.tex at line 10 in column 6: missing } for { line 6 is

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-03 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:01:25 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is no perfect solution in ConTeXt because the \quotation and the \start/stopquotation commands are defined with the same definition and it is not possible to disable the quote marks for the one and enable

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/11/2, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/11/1, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear gang, This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share with others and an official solution

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/11/1, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear gang, This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share with others and an official solution would be better: \starttext \input knuth

[NTG-context] \quotation

2007-11-01 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear gang, This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share with others and an official solution would be better: \starttext \input knuth \startquotation \input knuth \stopquotation \input knuth \stoptext

[NTG-context] quotation

2007-03-06 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Hi, I need guillemots instead of lowerleftdouble- and upperrightdoublequotes in the German environment. On my minimal installation (Linux) I managed to change that by editing the cont-sys.tex file in texmf-local/tex/context/user. At work, on a Mac with gwTeX, nothing I tried had any effect:

Re: [NTG-context] quotation

2007-03-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Do you mean a result like this? ›Zitat‹ »Zitation« Using gwTeX too, I would't change cont-sys.tex or lang-ger.tex. If needed I would do it like this: \setuplanguage[de] [leftquote=\guilsingleright,rightquote=\guilsingleleft, leftquotation=\rightguillemot,rightquotation=\leftguillemot]

Re: [NTG-context] quotation

2007-03-06 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Thanks a lot. I'm actually using them in this direction: citation. On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Do you mean a result like this? ›Zitat‹ »Zitation« Using gwTeX too, I would't change cont-sys.tex or lang-ger.tex. If needed I would do it like this: \setuplanguage[de]

[NTG-context] Quotation nesting is broken

2007-01-24 Thread Mike Bird
\starttext \quotation{This \quote{works} as expected.} \startquotation Closing double-quote is \quote{broken} here. \stopquotation \stoptext --Mike Bird ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context