Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Rolf
Am 12.12.2009 16:41, schrieb Oliver Heins: Hi Peter, Peter Rolfindi...@gmx.net writes: I get the same 'kind of knockedout' text as in the other example... but the black text is set as /DeviceGray and not /DeviceCMYK (k-component). You can make this visible by using 'Vorschau: Separiert'

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Peter, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net writes: I get the same 'kind of knockedout' text as in the other example... but the black text is set as /DeviceGray and not /DeviceCMYK (k-component). You can make this visible by using 'Vorschau: Separiert' with the option 'Einblenden:

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/12/12 Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org: So is it advisable to change all black to cmyk black or can I safely rely on the DeviceGray black? Use CMYK. IIRC AR preflight warns about overprinting etc. not working with Gray. Best Martin

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Oliver Heins wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net writes: I get the same 'kind of knockedout' text as in the other example... but the black text is set as /DeviceGray and not /DeviceCMYK (k-component). You can make this visible by using 'Vorschau: Separiert' with the option

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Hans, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: Oliver Heins wrote: So is it advisable to change all black to cmyk black or can I safely rely on the DeviceGray black? if needed i can make that an option at some point (as we already have more such auto conversion options) That would be great. :)

[NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the »tools« menu) in acrobat and remove magenta and black from the preview. Whilst

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Oliver Heins schrieb: Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the »tools« menu) in acrobat and remove magenta and black from

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter Rolf wrote: you have to manually copy the hacker.jpg to your working directory (under linux e.g. with cp $(kpsewhich hacker.jpg) /path/to/your/working/directory) and change the path to make the minimal example work under mark iv. I noticed this too (no picture with mkiv). BOF =

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hello, with color black overprinting is not working.  You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the »tools«

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Taco Hoekwater schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: you have to manually copy the hacker.jpg to your working directory (under linux e.g. with cp $(kpsewhich hacker.jpg) /path/to/your/working/directory) and change the path to make the minimal example work under mark iv. I noticed this too

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Peter, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net writes: Oliver Heins schrieb: Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the »tools«

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Luigi, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: hm I believed was \color[red]{..} and \startcolor[red] ... \stopcolor You're right, I mixed things up here. But nontheless, my example was (unintendedly) syntactically correct, because either \color[black]{\bf ...} and

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hi Luigi, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: hm I believed  was \color[red]{..} and \startcolor[red] ... \stopcolor You're right, I mixed things up here.  But nontheless, my example was (unintendedly)

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hi Luigi, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: hm I believed  was \color[red]{..} and \startcolor[red] ... \stopcolor You're right, I mixed things up here.  

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hi Luigi, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: hm I believed was \color[red]{..} and \startcolor[red] ... \stopcolor You're right, I mixed things up here. But nontheless, my example was

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Oliver Heins schrieb: Hi Peter, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net writes: Oliver Heins schrieb: Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net writes: Oliver Heins schrieb: Yes, I noticed that, too. But to me it looks like it is first knocked out in the pdf, and then the overprint flag is set. Good point. In that case the text must be set twice, as knockout and overprint can't coexist. I have looked

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: But shouldn't the same effect be seen with other colors than black then, too?  And it only happens with black, and I think it happens even when you do it within a cmyk-only document: Can you test the following?  My Acrobat is

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Oliver Heins schrieb: Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net writes: Oliver Heins schrieb: Yes, I noticed that, too. But to me it looks like it is first knocked out in the pdf, and then the overprint flag is set. Good point. In that case the text must be set twice, as knockout and