Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On May 27, 2014, at 15:37 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables?
 
 You can use \placetable for all table environments.

Thank you!

Now another one:

(a) I want to create a table using 'p' cells that does not use the full width 
of the paper
(b) it is a long table, crossing a page end
(c) the whole table should be centered

I tried the source below and obviously made a mistake somewhere.

Any suggestions?

Robert

Test source:

\starttext

\input knuth

\setuptabulate[split=yes]

\midaligned { %%% -- THIS DOES NOT WORK -- it does not center the entire table
\starttabulate [|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]
\dorecurse{4}{
\NC 
Nu laat ik je iets zien in een tabel, die met tabulate gemaakt is. \NC Het is 
overigens maar een experiment, maar we zullen zien wat er gebeurt. {\bf And I 
want all this to be centered.} \NC \NR
\NR
\NC Als dit werkt, dan gaan we heel fanatiek hiermee verder. \NC Dan gaan we 
allerlei prachtige zaken in ConTeXt zetten, met XeTeX. \NC \NR
\NR
} % end of \dorecurse
\stoptabulate
} % end of \midaligned

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/28/2014 10:46 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:

On May 27, 2014, at 15:37 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables?


You can use \placetable for all table environments.


Thank you!

Now another one:

(a) I want to create a table using 'p' cells that does not use the full width 
of the paper
(b) it is a long table, crossing a page end
(c) the whole table should be centered

I tried the source below and obviously made a mistake somewhere.

Any suggestions?


maybe bTABLE ... tabulate p's get a distibuted width ... pretty hard to 
do otherwise



Robert

Test source:

\starttext

\input knuth

\setuptabulate[split=yes]

\midaligned { %%% -- THIS DOES NOT WORK -- it does not center the entire table
\starttabulate [|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]
\dorecurse{4}{
\NC
Nu laat ik je iets zien in een tabel, die met tabulate gemaakt is. \NC Het is 
overigens maar een experiment, maar we zullen zien wat er gebeurt. {\bf And I 
want all this to be centered.} \NC \NR
\NR
\NC Als dit werkt, dan gaan we heel fanatiek hiermee verder. \NC Dan gaan we 
allerlei prachtige zaken in ConTeXt zetten, met XeTeX. \NC \NR


why xetex ... mkii is frozen


\NR
} % end of \dorecurse
\stoptabulate
} % end of \midaligned

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 28.05.2014 um 10:46 schrieb Robert Zydenbos cont...@zydenbos.net:

 On May 27, 2014, at 15:37 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables?
 
 You can use \placetable for all table environments.
 
 Thank you!
 
 Now another one:
 
 (a) I want to create a table using 'p' cells that does not use the full width 
 of the paper
 (b) it is a long table, crossing a page end
 (c) the whole table should be centered
 
 I tried the source below and obviously made a mistake somewhere.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Robert
 
 Test source:
 
 \starttext
 
 \input knuth
 
 \setuptabulate[split=yes]
 
 \midaligned { %%% -- THIS DOES NOT WORK -- it does not center the entire 
 table
 \starttabulate [|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]
 \dorecurse{4}{
 \NC 
 Nu laat ik je iets zien in een tabel, die met tabulate gemaakt is. \NC Het is 
 overigens maar een experiment, maar we zullen zien wat er gebeurt. {\bf And I 
 want all this to be centered.} \NC \NR
 \NR
 \NC Als dit werkt, dan gaan we heel fanatiek hiermee verder. \NC Dan gaan we 
 allerlei prachtige zaken in ConTeXt zetten, met XeTeX. \NC \NR
 \NR
 } % end of \dorecurse
 \stoptabulate
 } % end of \midaligned
 
 \stoptext


Use \placetable with the keywords “none” to disabled the counter/caption and 
“split” to enable page breaks.

\starttext

\input knuth

\startplacetable[location={none,split}]
\starttabulate [|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]
\dorecurse{4}{
\NC 
Nu laat ik je iets zien in een tabel, die met tabulate gemaakt 
is. \NC Het is overigens maar een experiment, maar we zullen zien wat er 
gebeurt. {\bf And I want all this to be centered.} \NC \NR
\NR
\NC Als dit werkt, dan gaan we heel fanatiek hiermee verder. 
\NC Dan gaan we allerlei prachtige zaken in ConTeXt zetten, met XeTeX. \NC \NR
\NR}
\stoptabulate
\stopplacetable

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On May 28, 2014, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 5/28/2014 10:46 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: [...]
 
 why xetex ... mkii is frozen

Sorry, Hans, but I need to use odd fonts for Indian languages that are not 
(yet?) supported by mkiv. But the combination ConTeXt mkii+XeTeX gives me 
beautiful results, so for the time being I'm trying to solve my few remaining 
problems and to produce my book that way.

Robert


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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/28/2014 8:25 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:

On May 28, 2014, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 5/28/2014 10:46 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: [...]

why xetex ... mkii is frozen


Sorry, Hans, but I need to use odd fonts for Indian languages that are not 
(yet?) supported by mkiv. But the combination ConTeXt mkii+XeTeX gives me 
beautiful results, so for the time being I'm trying to solve my few remaining 
problems and to produce my book that way.


you mean devanagari?

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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On May 28, 2014, at 22:10 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 5/28/2014 8:25 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
 On May 28, 2014, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 5/28/2014 10:46 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote: [...]
 
 why xetex ... mkii is frozen
 
 Sorry, Hans, but I need to use odd fonts for Indian languages that are not 
 (yet?) supported by mkiv. But the combination ConTeXt mkii+XeTeX gives me 
 beautiful results, so for the time being I'm trying to solve my few 
 remaining problems and to produce my book that way.
 
 you mean devanagari?

Also, but mainly Kannada, and also Tamil. XeTeX (and therefore also mkii) deals 
with all of them very well.

Robert


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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-27 Thread Robert Zydenbos
Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables?

Robert

On May 23, 2014, at 5:05 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Am 23.05.2014 um 04:17 schrieb Robert Zydenbos cont...@zydenbos.net:
 
 You have you use the “split” keyword when you want your tables to be broken 
 across pages, i.e.
 
 \starttext
 
 \placetable[split]{Table caption}
  {\starttabulate
   \NC Knuth \NC \input knuth \NC\NR
   \NC Tufte \NC \input tufte \NC\NR
   \NC Zapf  \NC \input zapf  \NC\NR
   \NC Knuth \NC \input knuth \NC\NR
   \NC Tufte \NC \input tufte \NC\NR
   \NC Zapf  \NC \input zapf  \NC\NR
   \stoptabulate}
 
 \stoptext
 
 Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 27.05.2014 um 10:57 schrieb Robert Zydenbos cont...@zydenbos.net:

 Is there also an equivalent of \placetable for use with Natural Tables?

You can use \placetable for all table environments.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
This is a topic that is of great interest to me. I have been trying to make 
tables in mkii (because I need XeTeX for my Indic fonts) that span across pages 
and in which cells are more than one line (so I use the 'p' parameter).

I'm enclosing a test file below. Any suggestions?

RZ

---start of test source---
% !TEX TS-program = ConTeXt (XeTeX)
\starttext

\input knuth

\setuptabulate[split=yes]

% --- *** I WANT THIS TABLE TO BE CENTERED *** ---

\starttabulate [|p(.5\textwidth)|p(.2\textwidth)|]
\dorecurse{4}{
\NC 
Nu laat ik je iets zien in een tabel, die met tabulate gemaakt is. \NC Het is 
overigens maar een experiment, maar we zullen zien wat er gebeurt. {\bf And I 
want all this to be centered.} \NC \NR
\NR
\NC Als dit werkt, dan gaan we heel fanatiek hiermee verder. \NC Dan gaan we 
allerlei prachtige zaken in ConTeXt zetten, met XeTeX. \NC \NR
\NR
} % end of \dorecurse
\stoptabulate


En nu iets met een ander mechanisme. Maar we moeten zien in hoeverre al deze 
mooie dingen formatteerbaar zijn.
\blank


% --- *** I WANT THIS TABLE TO BE CENTERED TOO, AND SPLIT ACROSS PAGES *** ---

\dorecurse{5}{
\setupTABLE[row][each][rulethickness=.5pt,distance=1.5em,offset=\dimexpr3mm,split=repeat]
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD Dit is iets in een TABLE. Of ik het begrepen heb? \eTD  \bTD 
Misschien wel. \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD \eTD \bTD En als ik nu maar éen cel schrijf? Het zou namelijk kunnen, 
dat hiermee tegen de een of andere regel gezondigd wordt, die in documentatie 
niet te vinden is. En in dat geval gaat het hele experiment niet op, of, nou 
ja, slechts ten dele. {\bf But drat, I want this box to be split across 
pages!}\eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\blank

} % end of \dorecurse

\midaligned {
\setupTABLE[row][each][rulethickness=1.5pt,distance=1mm,offset=\dimexpr2mm+2pt,split=repeat]
\startTABLE
\NC Text 1 \NC Text 2 \NC\NR
\NC Text 3 \NC Text 4 \NC\NR
\stopTABLE
}

\stoptext
---end of test source---

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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.05.2014 um 04:17 schrieb Robert Zydenbos cont...@zydenbos.net:

 This is a topic that is of great interest to me. I have been trying to make 
 tables in mkii (because I need XeTeX for my Indic fonts) that span across 
 pages and in which cells are more than one line (so I use the 'p' parameter).
 
 I'm enclosing a test file below. Any suggestions?

You have you use the “split” keyword when you want your tables to be broken 
across pages, i.e.

\starttext

\placetable[split]{Table caption}
  {\starttabulate
   \NC Knuth \NC \input knuth \NC\NR
   \NC Tufte \NC \input tufte \NC\NR
   \NC Zapf  \NC \input zapf  \NC\NR
   \NC Knuth \NC \input knuth \NC\NR
   \NC Tufte \NC \input tufte \NC\NR
   \NC Zapf  \NC \input zapf  \NC\NR
   \stoptabulate}
   
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-13 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

... Wikified: 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate#Horizontal_centering_table_on_the_page

Lukas


On Tue, 13 May 2014 07:03:58 +0200, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I'd do such things with

\starttext
\input knuth\par
\placetable[force,none]{none}{%
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
\HL
\NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
\HL
\stoptabulate
}
\input knuth
\stoptext

(the knuths are there only not to make the page look so empty, and the
force makes it non-floating, and the nones are there to not have any
caption (or even Table title)) but maybe there are better solutions?

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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-13 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r.
o. l...@pontex.cz wrote:
 ... Wikified:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate#Horizontal_centering_table_on_the_page

 Lukas

I realized that the second none is not needed. It is sufficient with
empty {} (or they could include any text). I updated the wiki.

/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-13 Thread Otared Kavian

On 13 mai 2014, at 08:30, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r.
 o. l...@pontex.cz wrote:
 ... Wikified:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate#Horizontal_centering_table_on_the_page
 
 Lukas
 
 I realized that the second none is not needed. It is sufficient with
 empty {} (or they could include any text). I updated the wiki.

Actually the « none » in 
\placetable[force,none] 
means you don’t want a caption and the first braces enclose the caption, while 
the second braces enclose what is going to be « placed »: compare

\placetable[force]{This is a centered tabulation}{
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
\HL
\NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
\HL
\stoptabulate}

with

\placetable[force,none]{This is a centered tabulation}{
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
\HL
\NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
\HL
\stoptabulate}

Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-13 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually the « none » in
 \placetable[force,none]
 means you don’t want a caption and the first braces enclose the caption, 
 while the second braces enclose what is going to be « placed »: compare

 \placetable[force]{This is a centered tabulation}{
 \starttabulate[|r|l|]
 \HL
 \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
 \HL
 \stoptabulate}

 with

 \placetable[force,none]{This is a centered tabulation}{
 \starttabulate[|r|l|]
 \HL
 \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
 \HL
 \stoptabulate}

 Best regards: OK

I think this agrees (with what I meant). Do you know how how to do
this with \startplacetable and \stopplacetable?

\startplacetable%[force,none]
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
\HL
\NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
\HL
\stoptabulate
\stopplacetable

gives a Table 1 below the table. And uncommenting the [force,none]
part does not seem to help...

/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-13 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote:
 \startplacetable%[force,none]
 \starttabulate[|r|l|]
 \HL
 \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
 \HL
 \stoptabulate
 \stopplacetable

Sorry for the spamming, according to older examples on the list, this
seems to work:

\startplacetable[location=force,number=no]
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
\HL
\NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
\HL
\stoptabulate
\stopplacetable

There is also a location=nonumber. I don't know what is the difference.

/Mikael

PS: I'll try to add this to the \startplacefloat page (which seems to be absent)
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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 13.05.2014 um 09:30 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r.
 o. l...@pontex.cz wrote:
 ... Wikified:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate#Horizontal_centering_table_on_the_page
 
 Lukas
 
 I realized that the second none is not needed. It is sufficient with
 empty {} (or they could include any text). I updated the wiki.

When you write “none” in the caption this is now handled as a normal string
and no longer as a keyword to disable the caption.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-12 Thread Devendra Ghate

I expect follow MWE to produce a centered table. But it does not.
Am I making any obvious mistake.

---
\definetabulate[centeredTable][|r|l|]
\setuptabulate
   [centeredTable]
   [align={middle}]
\starttext
   \startcenteredTable
 \HL
 \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
 \HL
   \stopcenteredTable
\stoptext


This also *doesn't* work.

---
\setuptabulate
   [align={middle}]
\starttext
   \starttabulate[|r|l|]
 \HL
 \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
 \HL
   \stoptabulate
\stoptext




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Re: [NTG-context] Centering tabulate env. using \setuptabulate

2014-05-12 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Devendra Ghate
devendra.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I expect follow MWE to produce a centered table. But it does not.
 Am I making any obvious mistake.

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 \definetabulate[centeredTable][|r|l|]
 \setuptabulate
[centeredTable]
[align={middle}]
 \starttext
\startcenteredTable
  \HL
  \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
  \HL
\stopcenteredTable
 \stoptext
 

 This also *doesn't* work.

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 \setuptabulate
[align={middle}]
 \starttext
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
  \HL
  \NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
  \HL
\stoptabulate
 \stoptext
 



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I'd do such things with

\starttext
\input knuth\par
\placetable[force,none]{none}{%
\starttabulate[|r|l|]
\HL
\NC I want this table \NC aligned in the center.\NR
\HL
\stoptabulate
}
\input knuth
\stoptext

(the knuths are there only not to make the page look so empty, and the
force makes it non-floating, and the nones are there to not have any
caption (or even Table title)) but maybe there are better solutions?

/Mikael
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