Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimals NixoS

2008-05-05 Thread Gour
 Mojca == Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mojca I can put any files on the server and can reshuffle them if
Mojca needed, but you need to send me some kind of specifications what
Mojca exactly you need. 

Well, I'm mostly interested if there is a plan to make some kind of
'release' for Minimals, or periodically to provide a kind of 'stable
snapshot' 'cause rsync-update in not in 'sync' with NiXOS philosophy?

Mojca I can also put a nixos package to the garden, but you need to
Mojca prepare it (and possibly provide the proper binaries). Try to
Mojca shuffle the files on your local machine and play with it to see
Mojca if it works.

Unfortunately, due to Murphy's law, the main server (no mirrors yet) is
still down from the last week (it hit right before the holidays in
Netherlands), so I'm waiting for a server to come back online (probably
tomorrow).

Then I can install NiXOS and play with Minimals.

Mojca Would you like to provide sources or binaries?

I'd like to provide both - source expression can go into NiXOS's svn
trunk, while it would be nice to have binaries available at
contextgarden.

Mojca Man pages? Improve mtx-update.lua? Some other things as well,
Mojca I'll try to move everything to the new server in some reasonable
Mojca time.

Thank you for reply. Let me move my laptop to NixOS first, then I plan
to help having Minimals available for it.


Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimals NixoS

2008-05-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Gour wrote:
 Hello!

  Soon I plan to move to NixOS (http://nixos.org/) distro which uses
  purely functional package manager (Nix) and does not allow 'destructive'
  updates which happen with e.g. ConTeXt Minimals and rsync.

  I'd like to use Luatex and due to its rapid development I am interested
  to know whether it would be feasible to do rsync locally and then
  provide Minimals 'snapshot' ? (the question is how to deploy luatex via
  Minimals'distro'?)

I can put any files on the server and can reshuffle them if needed,
but you need to send me some kind of specifications what exactly you
need. I can also put a nixos package to the garden, but you need to
prepare it (and possibly provide the proper binaries). Try to shuffle
the files on your local machine and play with it to see if it works.

Would you like to provide sources or binaries?

  Anything what can be done to help with Minimals?

Man pages? Improve mtx-update.lua? Some other things as well, I'll try
to move everything to the new server in some reasonable time.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimals NixoS

2008-04-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Gour wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Soon I plan to move to NixOS (http://nixos.org/) distro which uses
 purely functional package manager (Nix) and does not allow 'destructive'
 updates which happen with e.g. ConTeXt Minimals and rsync.

If it has .dev or .rpm (or an import function thereof) you could
use Norberts packages instead of the 'upstream' releases?

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimals NixoS

2008-04-28 Thread Gour
 Taco == Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Taco If it has .dev or .rpm (or an import function thereof) you could
Taco use Norberts packages instead of the 'upstream' releases?

No it uses source deployment, although it's possible to use binaries as
well.

NixOS puts all the build packages in separate folder and does not use
standard /usr /lib /lib etc. folders, but one is assured that build deps
are always correct, as well as ability to e.g. have multiple versions of
some libs, atomic updates, easy to rollback to some previous
'generation'...see
http://nixos.org/releases/nix/nix-0.11/manual/#sec-profiles

Sincerely,
Gour



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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimals NixoS

2008-04-28 Thread Gour
 Taco == Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Taco It sounds intriguing, but I have no time to look into it.

Yes, it is, but it's better for you to wait a bit and do luatex. NixOS
will hopefully become more user-friendly with the time.

Let me help 'em to have proper luatex support...


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Gour


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