Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-25 Thread Gerhard Kugler
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 10:35:30AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: or, if you have a bit experience, you can straight away add deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and install context. After this, please tell us our

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Gerhard Kugler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 10:35:30AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: or, if you have a bit experience, you can straight away add deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and install context. After this, please

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-25 Thread Hans Hagen
Frank � wrote: Yes, it is. ConTeXt does not support only pdfetex, but all major engines, like XeTeX and Aleph. I have formats in: $TEXMF/web2c/aleph/ $TEXMF/web2c/luatex/ $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/ $TEXMF/web2c/xetex/ Ah, okay, that's clear. Has this already been this

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Frank Küster wrote: Can you point me to the place where it is documented which calls are needed to be called I was going to say: on the wiki, but that clearly wouldn't work this time. To actually update ConTeXt, assuming you already have a relatively modern context installed, you say

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Frank � wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: A system-wide installation, if done cleanly, would be much easier (as plink pointed out). If you (or 'texexec --make' to generate the formats) ask kpathsea where to put the format files, it'll give you a

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Küster wrote: Can you point me to the place where it is documented which calls are needed to be called I was going to say: on the wiki, but that clearly wouldn't work this time. To actually update ConTeXt, assuming you already have a

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Frank � wrote: After a succesful update, you have to run # texexec --make --all [--xetex | --aleph | --pdftex] formats Where formats are the desired formats to run. The accepted list at the moment is: the eight ConTeXt formats, in both long (cont-en etc.) and short from

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Frank Küster wrote: After a succesful update, you have to run # texexec --make --all [--xetex | --aleph | --pdftex] formats .. So I guess this is the call that would also be needed if the update itself goes via a package management, i.e. if one installs a new version of the Debian

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: concerning fmtutil: there was a time that texexec could call fmtutil, but the lack of engine support (as taco explained, it was a trade off for simplifying the fmt suffix but part of the bargain was nog kept) as well as all kind of messy 'aliasing' going on

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Frank � wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: concerning fmtutil: there was a time that texexec could call fmtutil, but the lack of engine support (as taco explained, it was a trade off for simplifying the fmt suffix but part of the bargain was nog kept) as well as all kind of messy

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ horror story snipped ] anyhow, by now, no alias file should be present in any tex root any more; it was a bad idea anyway I always thought that the purpose of the aliases file was that a non-existent (no, nay, never, nowhere ever) filename was aliased to

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Frank � wrote: Ah, I didn't know that. pdftex 1.40 doesn't have this already, has it? not that i know, but the latest mp may do it already (esp mp is tricky because binary and pool have different names) Karl (or was it Olaf?) once said there are plans for a complete replacement of

[NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Frank Küster
Hi everybody, this mail has a double purpose. At the end, there's a call for testers of a new (planned) Debian ConTeXt package that would be updated more frequently than now (at least in unstable and testing), where ConTeXt is tied to teTeX's or TeXlive's release cycles. But first, I'd like to

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Renaud AUBIN
Hi Frank, A ConTeXt's package for debian will be great ! Frank Küster a écrit : Hi everybody, this mail has a double purpose. At the end, there's a call for testers of a new (planned) Debian ConTeXt package that would be updated more frequently than now (at least in unstable and testing),

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Frank, Frank Küster wrote: Are some of the people around who wrote this? I found some information I do not use Debian and did not write that page, but I can answer your questions partially, at least. - Is it intended that context formats end up in $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/? If yes, why

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Frank Küster
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Frank Küster wrote: Are some of the people around who wrote this? I found some information I do not use Debian and did not write that page, but I can answer your questions partially, at least. Thank you - yes, this helps. - Is it

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Frank Küster wrote: - Is it intended that context formats end up in $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/? If yes, why is that so? If not, we should rather find out why it happens and fix it. Yes, it is. ConTeXt does not support only pdfetex, but all major engines, like XeTeX and Aleph. I have formats in:

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Frank Küster
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, as a TeXlive and teTeX guy, it seems preferrable to choose option 1 and fix the existing distribution scripts. However, I don't know yet what else is needed when ConTeXt is updated, therefore I might be wrong, and switching to texexec might

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation Are some of the people around who wrote this? I wrote some of it (hangs head in shame) by typing in all the steps I had to use on my Debian stable/testing system to get a newer ConTeXt to work with tetex 3.0 as the basis. I agree, it is

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: A system-wide installation, if done cleanly, would be much easier (as plink pointed out). If you (or 'texexec --make' to generate the formats) ask kpathsea where to put the format files, it'll give you a directory in TEXMFHOME, so a per user install. But how do you ask

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry

2006-10-23 Thread Frank Küster
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: A system-wide installation, if done cleanly, would be much easier (as plink pointed out). If you (or 'texexec --make' to generate the formats) ask kpathsea where to put the format files, it'll give you a directory in TEXMFHOME, so a