Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
On 8 Mar 2015, at 23:17 , Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 05:24:51 -0600, Robert Blackstone
blackstone.rob...@gmail.com wrote
I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in
All the suggestions you have received are good, but ultimately you might
want to look at the spaces that Unicode provides, for example 202F. Not
sure sure which Unicode space character best suits your needs, but once
you have determined that, you can map it to one of the commands suggested
by others, or even define it to the exact width you want. For example, I
use imacron (U+012B) so much that it clashes with other characters. So I
map it to an alternate version that has a thinner macron:
\defineactivecharacter ī {\fontchar{imacron.alt}}
So what you want is a unicode space character that you can enter in your
editor, then define it in ConTeXt to exactly what you want.
and Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote
fyi: the list that Wolfgang shows with verbose space names ... these are
in fact unicode characters.
Thanks to both of you for pointing this out to me.
Up till now I have never used unicode characters the way Idris proposes and I’m
not sure that I already have the skills to make it work.
For the moment I’m quite happy with the many possibilities that were given by
Wolfgang and Hans.
Best regards,
Robert
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
On 3/8/2015 2:13 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
Hi Robert,
All the suggestions you have received are good, but ultimately you might
want to look at the spaces that Unicode provides, for example 202F. Not
sure sure which Unicode space character best suits your needs, but once
you have determined that, you can map it to one of the commands
suggested by others, or even define it to the exact width you want. For
example, I use imacron (U+012B) so much that it clashes with other
characters. So I map it to an alternate version that has a thinner macron:
\defineactivecharacter ī {\fontchar{imacron.alt}}
So what you want is a unicode space character that you can enter in your
editor, then define it in ConTeXt to exactly what you want.
fyi: the list that Wolfgang shows with verbose space names ... these are
in fact unicode characters.
Hans
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
| www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
On 8 Mar 2015, at 14:12 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt? Message-ID: 49ac1148-387a-4934-932a-334cadbb5...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Am 08.03.2015 um 13:55 schrieb Robert Blackstone blackstone.rob...@gmail.com: On 8 Mar 2015, at 13:04 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote 12:24 schrieb Robert Blackstone blackstone.rob...@gmail.com: Hi all, I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in a situation where neither no space, nor a normal space is ideal. You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace. Oddly enough, \, gives no comma and a normal space, \. gives no period and no space with mkiv, and a superscript period with mkii. Could these forms for \thinspace perhaps be obsolete? I have no problem to use \, as a space command but when you use don’t put a space between the command and the following character. My mistake: I forgot to add a comma after \, ! \,, indeed works beautifully for my purpose. And thanks for the list of possibilities for spaces of various sizes. Best regards, Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
Am 08.03.2015 um 12:24 schrieb Robert Blackstone
blackstone.rob...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in a
situation where neither no space, nor a normal space is ideal.
See the ME:
-
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Verdana]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\starttext
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, moves to
the octave {\em \lohi{A}{a} .
\medskip
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}} , moves to
the octave {\em \lohi{A}{a}} .
\stoptext
Without a space after {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, the normal situation, the comma is
too close to the B, (and the period too close to the A), suggesting some
superscript.
A normal space does not look nice (but if necessary I could live with it)
Is there an intermediate size for a space somehow?
You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace.
BTW. The context version of \medskip is \blank[medium].
Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
[NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
Hi all,
I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in a situation
where neither no space, nor a normal space is ideal.
See the ME:
-
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Verdana]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\starttext
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, moves to the
octave {\em \lohi{A}{a} .
\medskip
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}} , moves to
the octave {\em \lohi{A}{a}} .
\stoptext
Without a space after {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, the normal situation, the comma is too
close to the B, (and the period too close to the A), suggesting some
superscript.
A normal space does not look nice (but if necessary I could live with it)
Is there an intermediate size for a space somehow?
Thanks in advance.
Bets regards,
Robert Blackstone
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
On 03/08/2015 01:45 PM, Jörg Weger wrote:
You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace.
But \thinspace aka \, is a non-breaking space, isn’t it?
Hi Jörg,
I didn’t know, but it seems to be.
Is there a way to let it break a line if needed in certain circumstances
or is there something else like a “non-non-breaking thinspace”?
Well, I would call it a ”breaking thinspace”.
Adding \hskp0pt enables the breaking.
\starttext
\hsize\zeropoint
a\,b
a\,\hskip0pt{}b
\stoptext
I hope it might help,
Pablo
--
http://www.ousia.tk
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
Thank you very much for that list. Greetings Jörg On 08.03.2015 13:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 08.03.2015 um 13:45 schrieb Jörg Weger joerg73@googlemail.com: You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace. But \thinspace aka \, is a non-breaking space, isn’t it? Is there a way to let it break a line if needed in certain circumstances or is there something else like a “non-non-breaking thinspace”? Are these enough? \starttext %\hsize\zeropoint \startlines a\enskip b a\quad b a\qquad b a\twoperemspace b a\threeperemspaceb a\fourperemspace b a\sixperemspace b a\figurespaceb a\punctuationspace b a\breakablethinspace b a\hairspace b a\zerowidthspace b \stoplines \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
Hi Robert,
All the suggestions you have received are good, but ultimately you might
want to look at the spaces that Unicode provides, for example 202F. Not
sure sure which Unicode space character best suits your needs, but once
you have determined that, you can map it to one of the commands suggested
by others, or even define it to the exact width you want. For example, I
use imacron (U+012B) so much that it clashes with other characters. So I
map it to an alternate version that has a thinner macron:
\defineactivecharacter ī {\fontchar{imacron.alt}}
So what you want is a unicode space character that you can enter in your
editor, then define it in ConTeXt to exactly what you want.
Best wishes
Idris
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 05:24:51 -0600, Robert Blackstone
blackstone.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in a
situation where neither no space, nor a normal space is ideal.
See the ME:
-
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Verdana]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\starttext
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, moves
to the octave {\em \lohi{A}{a} .
\medskip
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}} ,
moves to the octave {\em \lohi{A}{a}} .
\stoptext
Without a space after {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, the normal situation, the comma
is too close to the B, (and the period too close to the A), suggesting
some superscript.
A normal space does not look nice (but if necessary I could live with it)
Is there an intermediate size for a space somehow?
Thanks in advance.
Bets regards,
Robert Blackstone
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
--
Idris Samawi Hamid
Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace.
But \thinspace aka \, is a non-breaking space, isn’t it?
Is there a way to let it break a line if needed in certain circumstances
or is there something else like a “non-non-breaking thinspace”?
Greetings Jörg
On 08.03.2015 12:35, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 08.03.2015 um 12:24 schrieb Robert Blackstone blackstone.rob...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in a situation
where neither no space, nor a normal space is ideal.
See the ME:
-
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Verdana]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\starttext
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, moves to the
octave {\em \lohi{A}{a} .
\medskip
On the third beat a 6th between bass and tenor, {\em \lohi{B}{g}} , moves to
the octave {\em \lohi{A}{a}} .
\stoptext
Without a space after {\em \lohi{B}{g}}, the normal situation, the comma is too
close to the B, (and the period too close to the A), suggesting some
superscript.
A normal space does not look nice (but if necessary I could live with it)
Is there an intermediate size for a space somehow?
You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace.
BTW. The context version of \medskip is \blank[medium].
Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
Am 08.03.2015 um 13:45 schrieb Jörg Weger joerg73@googlemail.com: You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace. But \thinspace aka \, is a non-breaking space, isn’t it? Is there a way to let it break a line if needed in certain circumstances or is there something else like a “non-non-breaking thinspace”? Are these enough? \starttext %\hsize\zeropoint \startlines a\enskip b a\quad b a\qquad b a\twoperemspace b a\threeperemspaceb a\fourperemspace b a\sixperemspace b a\figurespaceb a\punctuationspace b a\breakablethinspace b a\hairspace b a\zerowidthspace b \stoplines \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Does a half-space or small space exist in ConTeXt?
Am 08.03.2015 um 13:55 schrieb Robert Blackstone
blackstone.rob...@gmail.com:
On 8 Mar 2015, at 13:04 , Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com
wrote
12:24 schrieb Robert Blackstone blackstone.rob...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I would like to use something like a half-space or small space in a
situation where neither no space, nor a normal space is ideal.
You can use \thinspace or \, which is the short form of \thinspace.
BTW. The context version of \medskip is \blank[medium].
Thanks Wolfgang.
“\thinspace” works perfectly for my purpose.
Oddly enough, \, gives no comma and a normal space, \. gives no period and no
space with mkiv, and a superscript period with mkii.
Could these forms for \thinspace perhaps be obsolete?
I have no problem to use \, as a space command but when you use don’t put a
space between the command and the following character.
The \. command is used to create a accented character but it shouldn’t be
needed when you have a keyword which allows you to write the character.
\starttext
a\,b\par
a\thinspace b
\blank[line]
\.{c}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the
Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
