Re: [NTG-context] Error concerning "pdfmapline"; Fraktur font to use in ConTeXt lmtx

2019-04-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2019-04-22 um 15:26 schrieb Rudolf Bahr :

> I'd enjoy making a wiki page. Do we have a program to print caracter code 
> tables
> or font tables? If not, I'd use a bundle of single \char commands to show 
> which
> characters there are in a special Fraktur font.

Are you a DANTE member? Then have a look at my German translation of Taco’s 
article about installing fonts for ConTeXt in the latest DTK.
(The original is still unpublished – my fault, sorry guys...)

Try \showfont
or

\usemodule[fnt-10]
\starttext
\ShowCompleteFont{name:Unifraktur}{20pt}{1}
\stoptext

There aren’t a lot of good fraktur text fonts around, and most of those are 
commercial. (I don’t know and didn’t check if Linotype published their old Dfr 
fonts as OpenType at all.)

Unifraktur Maguntia is probably the best (technically) you can get.

Maybe try something from http://www.steffmann.de/wordpress/test-2/, but they 
don’t have any OpenType features.


Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Error concerning "pdfmapline"; Fraktur font to use in ConTeXt lmtx

2019-04-22 Thread Rudolf Bahr

> > In the meantime I had a look at different Fraktur fonts. Both suggested 
> > fonts [1]
> > and [2] were not acceptable to me for various reasons.
> > 
> > [1] has no gaps between words and many other errors. Horrible.
> 
> Afaiks that font is rather bugged indeed. I tried it, even made sure the
> space (which is unspecified in the afm) is set to some value but then it
> seems to use maybe some ligatures which are also unspecified. Old crap.
> 
> > [2] is far too fat to be printed in a book. The reason could be that the 
> > developers
> > wanted to make a font suitable for internet presences where the resolution 
> > of screens
> > is far below of that of printing machines. The good thing with [2] is that 
> > there is an
> > extended and interesting set of orthography rules and their changes over 
> > various
> > centuries beginning in 1600 up to today. But unfortunately the internet 
> > presence of [2]
> > seems to be dead, the newest entry in member's forum I saw has been from 
> > beginning of
> > 2017.
> 
> You can tweak it a bit:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \definefontfeature[thinned-10][effect={width=-0.10,auto=yes}]
> 
> \definefont[ufa][unifrakturmaguntia*default]
> \definefont[ufb][unifrakturmaguntia*default,thinned-10]
> 
> \ufa test\par
> \ufb test\par
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> I'm a bit puzzled by the 'dead' remark. When a project is finished, should
> the author create bogus entries each year to make it look like something new
> is done?
> 
> > [3] I found the Leipzig-Fraktur-Font, a real Easter gift :-) It's 
> > comparable to Yannis
> > Haralambous' nice fraktur font I used for years, but in ".otf"-format. It 
> > has the slim
> > high "s" for use at the beginning of words and within words as well as the 
> > small round
> > "s" at the end of syllabs and words. Ok, there seems to be no "!" (Instead 
> > I use "rm !")
> > and the sharp "ß" I had to construct by "s\hskip-1pt z". But German umlauts 
> > can be printed,
> > for instance 'ä' by '\"a', and different ligatures, for instance 'ch', 
> > 'st', 'tz', and
> > others exist.
> > So, most of my necessary conditions to a Fraktur font in ConTeXt-lmtx are 
> > fulfilled.
> > As an example is appended "Leipzig-Fraktur-Example.pdf".
> 
> ok
> 
> > I thank Hans and Wolfgang for helping me.
> 
> Best make a wiki page for this (summrizing).
> 
> > [1] https://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/yfonts
> > [2] http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/
> > [3] https://www.chip.de/downloads/Leipzig-Fraktur-Font_36248614.html
> Hans
> 


I'd enjoy making a wiki page. Do we have a program to print caracter code tables
or font tables? If not, I'd use a bundle of single \char commands to show which
characters there are in a special Fraktur font.

Rudolf
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Re: [NTG-context] Error concerning "pdfmapline"; Fraktur font to use in ConTeXt lmtx

2019-04-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/22/2019 11:13 AM, Rudolf Bahr wrote:

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 09:22:03PM +0200, Bahr Rudolf wrote:

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 09:19:24AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 4/18/2019 8:37 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


2. Use a font in Truetype/Opentype format:
http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/

Which is actually a quite nice and even readable fraktur.

Hans



Yes, perhaps. In the next days I will have a look at it. What do you mean with
"even readable"? Of course the font should be readable, not only to me.

During the last days I tried "1. Use the Type1 version of the fonts: [1], 
proposed by
Wolfgang. There a pair of .afm and .pfb files is needed by "new" ConTeXt and I 
got
an "even unreadable" fraktur with plenty of errors. See appended 
"Fraktur-afm-pfb.pdf".


Now, in the meantime, I had also a look into your book [2]
There is to be read:

"Most natural is to use OpenType or Type1 fonts. In the case of Type1 a 
matching pair
of afm and pfb files is needed. However, there can be situations where there is 
only
a tfm and pfb file (or not even that: just a bitmap file)."

What do you mean with that? Will "new" ConTeXt be capable in mastering a 
situation with
"only a tfm and pfb file" as "old" ConTeXt did?
With "old" ConTeXt I had with "yfrak.mf, yfrak.pfb, yfrak.tfm", a wonderfull 
Fraktur,
without errors.

Rudolf

[1] https://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/yfonts
[2] http://pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/fonts-mkiv.pdf, page 60, chapter 4.6
 ("Old fuzzy fonts")





In the meantime I had a look at different Fraktur fonts. Both suggested fonts 
[1]
and [2] were not acceptable to me for various reasons.

[1] has no gaps between words and many other errors. Horrible.


Afaiks that font is rather bugged indeed. I tried it, even made sure the 
space (which is unspecified in the afm) is set to some value but then it 
seems to use maybe some ligatures which are also unspecified. Old crap.



[2] is far too fat to be printed in a book. The reason could be that the 
developers
wanted to make a font suitable for internet presences where the resolution of 
screens
is far below of that of printing machines. The good thing with [2] is that 
there is an
extended and interesting set of orthography rules and their changes over various
centuries beginning in 1600 up to today. But unfortunately the internet 
presence of [2]
seems to be dead, the newest entry in member's forum I saw has been from 
beginning of
2017.


You can tweak it a bit:

\starttext

\definefontfeature[thinned-10][effect={width=-0.10,auto=yes}]

\definefont[ufa][unifrakturmaguntia*default]
\definefont[ufb][unifrakturmaguntia*default,thinned-10]

\ufa test\par
\ufb test\par

\stoptext

I'm a bit puzzled by the 'dead' remark. When a project is finished, 
should the author create bogus entries each year to make it look like 
something new is done?



[3] I found the Leipzig-Fraktur-Font, a real Easter gift :-) It's comparable to 
Yannis
Haralambous' nice fraktur font I used for years, but in ".otf"-format. It has 
the slim
high "s" for use at the beginning of words and within words as well as the 
small round
"s" at the end of syllabs and words. Ok, there seems to be no "!" (Instead I use "rm 
!")
and the sharp "ß" I had to construct by "s\hskip-1pt z". But German umlauts can 
be printed,
for instance 'ä' by '\"a', and different ligatures, for instance 'ch', 'st', 
'tz', and
others exist.
So, most of my necessary conditions to a Fraktur font in ConTeXt-lmtx are 
fulfilled.
As an example is appended "Leipzig-Fraktur-Example.pdf".


ok


I thank Hans and Wolfgang for helping me.


Best make a wiki page for this (summrizing).


[1] https://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/yfonts
[2] http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/
[3] https://www.chip.de/downloads/Leipzig-Fraktur-Font_36248614.html

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Error concerning "pdfmapline"; Fraktur font to use in ConTeXt lmtx

2019-04-22 Thread Rudolf Bahr
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 09:22:03PM +0200, Bahr Rudolf wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 09:19:24AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > On 4/18/2019 8:37 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > 
> > > 2. Use a font in Truetype/Opentype format:
> > > http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/
> > Which is actually a quite nice and even readable fraktur.
> > 
> > Hans
> 
> 
> Yes, perhaps. In the next days I will have a look at it. What do you mean with
> "even readable"? Of course the font should be readable, not only to me.
> 
> During the last days I tried "1. Use the Type1 version of the fonts: [1], 
> proposed by
> Wolfgang. There a pair of .afm and .pfb files is needed by "new" ConTeXt and 
> I got
> an "even unreadable" fraktur with plenty of errors. See appended 
> "Fraktur-afm-pfb.pdf". 
> 
> 
> Now, in the meantime, I had also a look into your book [2]
> There is to be read: 
> 
> "Most natural is to use OpenType or Type1 fonts. In the case of Type1 a 
> matching pair
> of afm and pfb files is needed. However, there can be situations where there 
> is only
> a tfm and pfb file (or not even that: just a bitmap file)."
> 
> What do you mean with that? Will "new" ConTeXt be capable in mastering a 
> situation with 
> "only a tfm and pfb file" as "old" ConTeXt did? 
> With "old" ConTeXt I had with "yfrak.mf, yfrak.pfb, yfrak.tfm", a wonderfull 
> Fraktur,
> without errors.
> 
> Rudolf
> 
> [1] https://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/yfonts
> [2] http://pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/fonts-mkiv.pdf, page 60, chapter 
> 4.6 
> ("Old fuzzy fonts")




In the meantime I had a look at different Fraktur fonts. Both suggested fonts 
[1]
and [2] were not acceptable to me for various reasons. 

[1] has no gaps between words and many other errors. Horrible. 

[2] is far too fat to be printed in a book. The reason could be that the 
developers 
wanted to make a font suitable for internet presences where the resolution of 
screens 
is far below of that of printing machines. The good thing with [2] is that 
there is an 
extended and interesting set of orthography rules and their changes over 
various 
centuries beginning in 1600 up to today. But unfortunately the internet 
presence of [2]
seems to be dead, the newest entry in member's forum I saw has been from 
beginning of 
2017. 

[3] I found the Leipzig-Fraktur-Font, a real Easter gift :-) It's comparable to 
Yannis 
Haralambous' nice fraktur font I used for years, but in ".otf"-format. It has 
the slim 
high "s" for use at the beginning of words and within words as well as the 
small round 
"s" at the end of syllabs and words. Ok, there seems to be no "!" (Instead I 
use "rm !") 
and the sharp "ß" I had to construct by "s\hskip-1pt z". But German umlauts can 
be printed, 
for instance 'ä' by '\"a', and different ligatures, for instance 'ch', 'st', 
'tz', and 
others exist. 
So, most of my necessary conditions to a Fraktur font in ConTeXt-lmtx are 
fulfilled.
As an example is appended "Leipzig-Fraktur-Example.pdf".

I thank Hans and Wolfgang for helping me.

Rudolf


[1] https://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/yfonts
[2] http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/
[3] https://www.chip.de/downloads/Leipzig-Fraktur-Font_36248614.html

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