Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: setuptex.csh usage

2011-01-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 31-12-2010 1:48, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

Hello,

setuptex (sh, bash, ...) has most definitions commented out
and to work with the minimals seems to need only to set the PATH.


Indeed. the commented code has to do with the fact that in the past 
(unix) distributions tended to set variables when installing e.g. tetex 
and as environment variables overload those in a cnf file they needed to 
be nilled beforehand. That problem has gone away with texlive.



setuptex.csh is less maintained, it appears.
I no longer use (t)csh and I see that Mojca and Arthur propose
to remove this script.  I have no objection,
but it does appears from this thread that it is indeed still used.


there is no harm in keeping it around I guess

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: setuptex.csh usage

2010-12-31 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Hello,

setuptex (sh, bash, ...) has most definitions commented out
and to work with the minimals seems to need only to set the PATH.

I currently use the minimals for ConTeXt,
and TeXlive for LaTeX (for article submission, where I cannot use ConTeXt).
Having the minimals in my PATH before TeXlive works fine this way
(TeXlive lualatex is found correctly),
but it does cause problems with bibtex, for example, 
where the minimals binary is found first with this PATH.

setuptex.csh is less maintained, it appears.
I no longer use (t)csh and I see that Mojca and Arthur propose
to remove this script.  I have no objection,
but it does appears from this thread that it is indeed still used.

Alan

P.S.  by the way [concerning the (ba)sh version],
I take care of the verbose echo locally, as:
if [ -r /usr/local/context/beta/tex/setuptex ]; then
if [ x$PS1 == x ] ; then
source /usr/local/context/beta/tex/setuptex  
/dev/null
else
source /usr/local/context/beta/tex/setuptex
fi
fi
(otherwise this will cause trouble for rsync, for example)
so the portion:
# for Alan Braslau's server :)
if [ x$PS1 != x ] ; then
echo Setting \$TEXROOT\ as ConTeXt root.
fi
can be simplified, if Mojca wishes. :)



On Thursday 30 December 2010 20:29:56 Patrick Gundlach wrote:
 Hi Jon,
 
 you should post your question to the mailing list.
 
 Patrick
 
  Von: Jon Crump jjcr...@uw.edu
  Datum: 30. Dezember 2010 19:40:58 MEZ
  An: garden...@contextgarden.net
  Betreff: setuptex.csh usage
  
  Hans, et alia,
  
  [MacOSX, 10.5.8, intel Core 2 Duo, ConTeXt  ver: 2010.12.22 20:18 MKIV
  fmt: 2010.12.23  int: english/english]
  
  I just spent a pointless half hour wondering why my tex files failed
  in context when they worked just a few days ago, until I noticed that
  context was calling the old texlive installation. I forgot that I had
  used setuptex.csh to establish env vars for the running terminal
  session and then later terminated it. I intend for the foreseeable
  future to continue to use this convenience; I thank you for providing
  it, and hope you do not discontinue it.
  
  I want to continue to use texlive both at the command line and with
  some gui front-ends, and want to be able to keep the context minimals
  separate. In my inexperience I perhaps am not seeing a more effective
  way to do this, but your shell script works, and I hesitate to mess
  about with what works.
  
  Many thanks for all your prodigious and impressive work,
  
  Jon
 
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[NTG-context] Fwd: setuptex.csh usage

2010-12-30 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Jon,

you should post your question to the mailing list.

Patrick


 Von: Jon Crump jjcr...@uw.edu
 Datum: 30. Dezember 2010 19:40:58 MEZ
 An: garden...@contextgarden.net
 Betreff: setuptex.csh usage
 
 Hans, et alia,
 
 [MacOSX, 10.5.8, intel Core 2 Duo, ConTeXt  ver: 2010.12.22 20:18 MKIV
 fmt: 2010.12.23  int: english/english]
 
 I just spent a pointless half hour wondering why my tex files failed
 in context when they worked just a few days ago, until I noticed that
 context was calling the old texlive installation. I forgot that I had
 used setuptex.csh to establish env vars for the running terminal
 session and then later terminated it. I intend for the foreseeable
 future to continue to use this convenience; I thank you for providing
 it, and hope you do not discontinue it.
 
 I want to continue to use texlive both at the command line and with
 some gui front-ends, and want to be able to keep the context minimals
 separate. In my inexperience I perhaps am not seeing a more effective
 way to do this, but your shell script works, and I hesitate to mess
 about with what works.
 
 Many thanks for all your prodigious and impressive work,
 
 Jon


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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: setuptex.csh usage

2010-12-30 Thread Patrick Gundlach


 you should post your question to the mailing list.

Of course I meant questions _not_ related to the domain contextgarden.net. 
Those that are should go to the address you used (gardeners at 
contextgarden.net).


Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: setuptex.csh usage

2010-12-30 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Its me again,

this mail was about setup.csh from the minimals and was addressed to the 
correct recipients. So my fault for forwarding this to the main mailing list. 
Sorry for that.


Patrick

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