Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-21 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks for your extensive comments Aditya. It's (finally) *much* clearer now. > Now you have two options: Either isolate minimal context from the one > provided by the distribution, or make them co-exist. Isolating them is > easy, the minimals even come with a script "setuptex" which does that. So

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Alan Stone wrote: > Thanks Mojca. > >> If you are lucky, it puts the files where you want them to be, but >> since every installation works its own way, it's hard to predict where >> to put them; >> ... >> Of course you can. But if you happen to update TL package, your >> addi

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks Mojca. > If you are lucky, it puts the files where you want them to be, but > since every installation works its own way, it's hard to predict where > to put them; >... > Of course you can. But if you happen to update TL package, your > additions will be destroyed. And you need to rebuild a

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alan Stone wrote: > Hi Wolfgang, > > Hmmm... There's Mac too. > > However, I don't give up so quickly. :O) > > I find Linux rather cool. At the same time > finding Windows' desktop/window manager > more and more boring, considering the > personalisation capabilitie

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Wolfgang, Hmmm... There's Mac too. However, I don't give up so quickly. :O) I find Linux rather cool. At the same time finding Windows' desktop/window manager more and more boring, considering the personalisation capabilities of GNU/Linux' desktops, etc... Hence, for the time being, I'll ke

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The more I research, the less I understand... > > >From http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals : > > --- quote --- > > Updating > For now, the main recipe to update is to run first-setup again. A > command simila

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Stone
The more I research, the less I understand... >From http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals : --- quote --- Updating For now, the main recipe to update is to run first-setup again. A command similar to ctxtools --updatecontext might be provided in the future. --- unquote -

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Stone
I don't understand. Please explain... (1) >You cannot update the binaries that way (you are not supposed to :). Why can't the binaries be updated that way (why aren't we supposed to) ? (2) >On your own risk, you may update the binaries from minimals > rsync -av \ > rsync://contextgarden.net

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Stone
At least ctxtools --updatecontext should work. The /etc/texmf:/var/lib/texmf:/usr/share/texmf:/usr/share/texmf-texlive are there. Or am I (again) missing something ? On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Wolfgang Schuster < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Alan Stone > <[E

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-20 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've have Ubuntu 8.04 running in a VirtualBox under WXP. No dual boot setup > necessary any more. How Cool ! Works like a charm - apart from a USB printer > problem. > > Installed TeX, ConTeXt and XeTeX through the Pac

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've have Ubuntu 8.04 running in a VirtualBox under WXP. No dual boot setup > necessary any more. How Cool ! Works like a charm - apart from a USB printer > problem. > > Installed TeX, ConTeXt and XeTeX through the Pac

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-19 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, I've have Ubuntu 8.04 running in a VirtualBox under WXP. No dual boot setup necessary any more. How Cool ! Works like a charm - apart from a USB printer problem. Installed TeX, ConTeXt and XeTeX through the Package Manager (to test whether it worked). Now trying to update ConTeXt with ctxto

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-14 Thread John Culleton
On Saturday 14 June 2008 03:40:58 am Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: > > Wow... this is a good one: > > > > Linux Distribution chooser: answer some questions and there you > > go... http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ > > > > Results were *very* close to your suggestions. > > That was fun!

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-14 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne sobota 14. junija 2008 je luigi scarso napisal(a): > >> Linux Distribution chooser: answer some questions and there you go... > >> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ > >> > >> Results were *very* close to your suggestions. > > > > That was fun! It actually proposed the distro I'm using (Mandriv

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-14 Thread luigi scarso
>> Linux Distribution chooser: answer some questions and there you go... >> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ >> >> Results were *very* close to your suggestions. > > That was fun! It actually proposed the distro I'm using (Mandriva). Even for me (I'm using ubuntu) -- luigi _

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Alan Stone wrote: > Wow... this is a good one: > > Linux Distribution chooser: answer some questions and there you go... > http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ > > Results were *very* close to your suggestions. That was fun! It actually proposed the distro I'm using (Mandriva). _

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-14 Thread Alan Stone
Wow... this is a good one: Linux Distribution chooser: answer some questions and there you go... http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ Results were *very* close to your suggestions. Alan On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks all for kindly posting your pr

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks all for kindly posting your precious recommendations and tips. (K)Ubuntu and PC-BSD Live CD's it will be... as an appetizer. :O) For future reference for people considering giving it a go, here are some useful links: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution - http://en.wikipedia.

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread John Devereux
"Charles P. Schaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > I'm torn between a TeX packaged "distro" and independent construction > either via TeX Live itself or DIY'ing it from CTAN. OTOH it's nice not > to have to build your own texmf tree; but it can be done and I've done > it by following the

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Charles P. Schaum
I had a poor experience with "commercial" design software on Windows (by Serif, a company based out of the UK.) That pushed me to Linux. I started with Debian "woody" and right away I had to fetch and compile kernel modules from an Intel code base. I actually got Debian working well under the 2.4

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/6/13 Michael Hallgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> As I presently don't know a thing about Linux, which distribution >> do you recommend ? > > Hello :) > > Over the years, I've been using mainly FreeBSD. But recently I gave the > Ubuntu distribution a chance. It's a really nice, and easier to manag

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Olivier Guéry
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ( Oops, pushed inadvertedly some key on my keyboard and the > message was away while in GMail - here's the sequel... ) > > Having heard Linux is, amongst other things, far more stable > I might be tempted to play with it and

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le vendredi 13 juin 2008 à 12:42 +0200, Alan Stone a écrit : > ( Oops, pushed inadvertedly some key on my keyboard and the > message was away while in GMail - here's the sequel... ) > > Having heard Linux is, amongst other things, far more stable > I might be tempted to play with it and progressiv

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ( Oops, pushed inadvertedly some key on my keyboard and the > message was away while in GMail - here's the sequel... ) > > Having heard Linux is, amongst other things, far more stable > I might be tempted to play with it and

Re: [NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Alan Stone
( Oops, pushed inadvertedly some key on my keyboard and the message was away while in GMail - here's the sequel... ) Having heard Linux is, amongst other things, far more stable I might be tempted to play with it and progressively build some experience with it, master the beast and then switch som

[NTG-context] Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

2008-06-13 Thread Alan Stone
Hi, Yesterday WXP crashed and it took me a whole day to repair the thing and get it up and running again. Ha ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-con