Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread tobber
… ok, I got it: [apa:cite] is the key!

Thank a lot, guys!
Tobias

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> On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 9:23 PM, tobber  (mailto:tobiasber...@arcor.de)> wrote:
> hmmm, that changes the entries in the bibliography completely right. BUT is 
> there also a possibility to change the print outputs of the cite-commands 
> also in that way? There—in the PDF text—is still:
>
> (Meier, Schulze, & Müller)
>
>
> ALOHA, Tobias
>
>
>
>
>
> ——
> tobias berndt
> (dipl.-kfm., mba)
>
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>
> > On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 7:58 PM, tobber  > (mailto:tobiasber...@arcor.de)> wrote:
> > … Thomas, you’re the man—thank you sooo much!
> >
> > ALOHA, Tobias
> >
> >
> >
> > ——
> > tobias berndt
> > (dipl.-kfm., mba)
> >
> > t : 0176.56 75 15 30
> > m : tobiasber...@arcor.de
> > e : t = telefon, m = mail, e = erklaerung
> >
> > > On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Schmitz Thomas A. 
> > > mailto:thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de)> wrote:
> > >
> > > > \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
> > >
> > > Here you’re loading the *aps* definitions.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > \setupbtx
> > > > [apa:list:author]
> > > > [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
> > >
> > > And here you’re modifying the *apa* setups. That won’t work. This works:
> > >
> > > \startbuffer[references]
> > > @misc{test,
> > > author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
> > > title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
> > > year = {2017},
> > > }
> > > \stopbuffer
> > >
> > > \usebtxdataset[references.buffer]
> > >
> > > \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
> > >
> > > \setupbtx
> > > [aps:list]
> > > [separator:names:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a 
> > > list
> > >
> > > \starttext
> > >
> > > \cite[test]
> > >
> > > \placelistofpublications
> > >
> > > \stoptext
> > >
> > > Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread tobber
hmmm, that changes the entries in the bibliography completely right. BUT is 
there also a possibility to change the print outputs of the cite-commands also 
in that way? There—in the PDF text—is still:

(Meier, Schulze, & Müller)

ALOHA, Tobias

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t : 0176.56 75 15 30
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e : t = telefon, m = mail, e = erklaerung

> On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 7:58 PM, tobber  (mailto:tobiasber...@arcor.de)> wrote:
> … Thomas, you’re the man—thank you sooo much!
>
> ALOHA, Tobias
>
>
>
> ——
> tobias berndt
> (dipl.-kfm., mba)
>
> t : 0176.56 75 15 30
> m : tobiasber...@arcor.de
> e : t = telefon, m = mail, e = erklaerung
>
> > On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Schmitz Thomas A. 
> > mailto:thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de)> wrote:
> >
> > > \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
> >
> > Here you’re loading the *aps* definitions.
> >
> > >
> > > \setupbtx
> > > [apa:list:author]
> > > [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
> >
> > And here you’re modifying the *apa* setups. That won’t work. This works:
> >
> > \startbuffer[references]
> > @misc{test,
> > author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
> > title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
> > year = {2017},
> > }
> > \stopbuffer
> >
> > \usebtxdataset[references.buffer]
> >
> > \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
> >
> > \setupbtx
> > [aps:list]
> > [separator:names:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \cite[test]
> >
> > \placelistofpublications
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread tobber
… Thomas, you’re the man—thank you sooo much!

ALOHA, Tobias

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> On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Schmitz Thomas A. 
> mailto:thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de)> wrote:
>
> > \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
>
> Here you’re loading the *aps* definitions.
>
> >
> > \setupbtx
> > [apa:list:author]
> > [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
>
> And here you’re modifying the *apa* setups. That won’t work. This works:
>
> \startbuffer[references]
> @misc{test,
> author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
> title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
> year = {2017},
> }
> \stopbuffer
>
> \usebtxdataset[references.buffer]
>
> \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
>
> \setupbtx
> [aps:list]
> [separator:names:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
>
> \starttext
>
> \cite[test]
>
> \placelistofpublications
>
> \stoptext
>
> Thomas
>
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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread Schmitz Thomas A.

> \usebtxdefinitions[aps]

Here you’re loading the *aps* definitions.

> 
> \setupbtx
> [apa:list:author]
> [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
> 

And here you’re modifying the *apa* setups. That won’t work. This works:

\startbuffer[references]
@misc{test,
 author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
 title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
 year = {2017},
}
\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[references.buffer]

\usebtxdefinitions[aps]

\setupbtx
[aps:list]
[separator:names:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list

\starttext

\cite[test]

\placelistofpublications

\stoptext

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, tobber wrote:


… really? Hm, I tried it out, but it doesn’t work neither :(


You are right. Sometimes your eyes don't see what you don't want to see. 
Sorry about the noise.


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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread tobber
… really? Hm, I tried it out, but it doesn’t work neither :(

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> On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Aditya Mahajan  (mailto:adit...@umich.edu)> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, tobber wrote:
>
> > Hm, I made this little test:
> >
> > +++
> > \startbuffer[references]
> > @misc{test,
> > author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
> > title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
> > year = {2017},
> > }
> > \stopbuffer
> >
> > \usebtxdataset[references.buffer]
> > \usebtxdefinitions[aps]
> >
> > \setupbtx
> > [apa:list:author]
> > [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \cite[test]
> >
> > \placelistofpublications
> >
> > \stoptext
> > +++
>
> For reasons that I don't understand, it works if you move the \setupbtx
> **before** the \usebtxdefinitions[aps].
>
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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, tobber wrote:


Hm, I made this little test:

+++
\startbuffer[references]
@misc{test,
author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
year = {2017},
}
\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[references.buffer]
\usebtxdefinitions[aps]

\setupbtx
[apa:list:author]
[separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list

\starttext

\cite[test]

\placelistofpublications

\stoptext
+++


For reasons that I don't understand, it works if you move the \setupbtx 
**before** the \usebtxdefinitions[aps].


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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread tobber
Hm, I made this little test:

+++
\startbuffer[references]
@misc{test,
author= {P. Wolf and H. Fuchs and V. Hase and L. Löwe},
title = {Irgendwelche Viecher},
year = {2017},
}
\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[references.buffer]
\usebtxdefinitions[aps]

\setupbtx
[apa:list:author]
[separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list

\starttext

\cite[test]

\placelistofpublications

\stoptext
+++

but this damn comma is still there:

[1] P. Wolf, H. Fuchs, V. Hase, and L. Löwe, Irgendwelche Viecher, (2017).

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> On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 6:24 PM, tobber  (mailto:tobiasber...@arcor.de)> wrote:
> Hey Alan,
>
> where I have to put the code:
>
> \setupbtx
> [apa:list:author]
> [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
>
> ??
>
>
>
>
>
> ——
> tobias berndt
> (dipl.-kfm., mba)
>
> t : 0176.56 75 15 30
> m : tobiasber...@arcor.de
> e : t = telefon, m = mail, e = erklaerung
>
> > On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Alan Braslau 
> > mailto:braslau.l...@comcast.net)> wrote:
> > \setupbtx
> > [apa:list:author]
> > [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
> >
> > (But note that the "Oxford" comma is now not only officially accepted,
> > but it is also part of the APA specification, often not fully
> > respected.)
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 13:49:23 +000
> > Tobias Berndt  wrote:
> >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > since I am typesetting a German publication, I wanna get out the
> > > comma before and:
> > >
> > > R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner, & J. Joyce (1966). Blabla ... and it
> > > should be: R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner & J. Joyce (1966).
> > > Blabla ...
> > >
> > > My settings are more or less:
> > >
> > > \usebtxdataset[bla-publications.bib]
> > > \usebtxdefinitions[apa]
> > >
> > > +++
> > >
> > > \startchapter[reference=chap:7,title={Literaturverzeichnis}]
> > > \placelistofpublications
> > > \stopchapter
> > >
> > > +++
> > >
> > > @Article{kri15,
> > > author = {B. Kriesche and R. Hess and B. Reichert and
> > > V. Schmidt}, journal = {Spatial Statistics},
> > > pages = {15\,--\,30},
> > > title = {A probabilistic approach to the prediction
> > > of area weather events, applied to precipitation}, volume = {12},
> > > year = {2015}}
> > >
> > > +++
> > >
> > > Any idea?
> > >
> > > ALOHA, tobber
> > >
> > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> > >
> > > Tobias Berndt
> > > Technischer Redakteur
> > >
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> > >
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> > > 86153 Augsburg
> > >
> > > Fon: +49 (821) 5 67 08 - 577
> > > Fax: +49 (821) 5 67 08 - 19
> > >
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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread tobber
Hey Alan,

where I have to put the code:

\setupbtx
[apa:list:author]
[separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list

??

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t : 0176.56 75 15 30
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e : t = telefon, m = mail, e = erklaerung

> On Mittwoch, Nov. 08, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Alan Braslau  (mailto:braslau.l...@comcast.net)> wrote:
> \setupbtx
> [apa:list:author]
> [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list
>
> (But note that the "Oxford" comma is now not only officially accepted,
> but it is also part of the APA specification, often not fully
> respected.)
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 13:49:23 +000
> Tobias Berndt  wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > since I am typesetting a German publication, I wanna get out the
> > comma before and:
> >
> > R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner, & J. Joyce (1966). Blabla ... and it
> > should be: R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner & J. Joyce (1966).
> > Blabla ...
> >
> > My settings are more or less:
> >
> > \usebtxdataset[bla-publications.bib]
> > \usebtxdefinitions[apa]
> >
> > +++
> >
> > \startchapter[reference=chap:7,title={Literaturverzeichnis}]
> > \placelistofpublications
> > \stopchapter
> >
> > +++
> >
> > @Article{kri15,
> > author = {B. Kriesche and R. Hess and B. Reichert and
> > V. Schmidt}, journal = {Spatial Statistics},
> > pages = {15\,--\,30},
> > title = {A probabilistic approach to the prediction
> > of area weather events, applied to precipitation}, volume = {12},
> > year = {2015}}
> >
> > +++
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> > ALOHA, tobber
> >
> > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> >
> > Tobias Berndt
> > Technischer Redakteur
> >
> > [cid:baramundi_logo_7d238272-c360-403f-a4b5-16fee20dd77a.png]
> >
> > baramundi software AG
> > Beim Glaspalast 1
> > 86153 Augsburg
> >
> > Fon: +49 (821) 5 67 08 - 577
> > Fax: +49 (821) 5 67 08 - 19
> >
> > tobias.ber...@baramundi.de
> > www.baramundi.de
> >
> > Besuchen Sie uns:
> > LinkedIn |
> > Xing |
> > Twitter |
> > YouTube
> >
> > Vorstand: Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Uwe Beikirch | Dr. Lars Lippert
> > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Dr. Dirk Haft
> > Sitz und Registergericht: Augsburg, HRB-Nr. 2064 | USt-IdNr. DE
> > 210294111
>
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Re: [NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread Alan Braslau
\setupbtx
  [apa:list:author]
  [separator:3={\btxnobreakspace\textampersand\space}] % last of a list

(But note that the "Oxford" comma is now not only officially accepted,
but it is also part of the APA specification, often not fully
respected.)

Alan



On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 13:49:23 +000
Tobias Berndt  wrote:

> Dear List,
> 
> since I am typesetting a German publication, I wanna get out the
> comma before and:
> 
> R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner, & J. Joyce (1966). Blabla ... and it
> should be: R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner & J. Joyce (1966).
> Blabla ...
> 
> My settings are more or less:
> 
> \usebtxdataset[bla-publications.bib]
>   \usebtxdefinitions[apa]
> 
> +++
> 
> \startchapter[reference=chap:7,title={Literaturverzeichnis}]
>   \placelistofpublications
> \stopchapter
> 
> +++
> 
> @Article{kri15,
> author = {B. Kriesche and R. Hess and B. Reichert and
> V. Schmidt}, journal = {Spatial Statistics},
> pages = {15\,--\,30},
> title = {A probabilistic approach to the prediction
> of area weather events, applied to precipitation}, volume = {12},
> year = {2015}}
> 
> +++
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> ALOHA, tobber
> 
> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> 
> Tobias Berndt
> Technischer Redakteur
> 
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> 
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[NTG-context] How to remove that "Oxford Comma" in a bibliography?

2017-11-08 Thread Tobias Berndt
Dear List,

since I am typesetting a German publication, I wanna get out the comma before 
and:

R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner, & J. Joyce (1966). Blabla ... and it should be:
R. Smith, F. Bauer, J. Faulkner & J. Joyce (1966). Blabla ...

My settings are more or less:

\usebtxdataset[bla-publications.bib]
  \usebtxdefinitions[apa]

+++

\startchapter[reference=chap:7,title={Literaturverzeichnis}]
  \placelistofpublications
\stopchapter

+++

@Article{kri15,
author = {B. Kriesche and R. Hess and B. Reichert and V. 
Schmidt},
journal = {Spatial Statistics},
pages = {15\,--\,30},
title = {A probabilistic approach to the prediction of area 
weather events, applied to precipitation},
volume = {12},
year = {2015}}

+++

Any idea?

ALOHA, tobber

Mit freundlichen Gr??en

Tobias Berndt
Technischer Redakteur

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