Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Horacio Suarez wrote:
 May I define and setup two diferents layouts and swicht between them?
   
indeed, one can also mix papersizes

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-27 Thread wwl
 Well, I start from the beginning with odd/even layout setting, and
 the  
 following does not work. The behaviour I see is that only the odd
 setting  
 is used. What is wrong in there?
 
 \definelayout[odd]
[width=middle,
 backspace=7cm,
 cutspace=5cm]
 
 \definelayout[even]
[backspace=8cm,
 cutspace=2cm,
 width=middle]
 
 \setuplayout
 
 %\showlayout
 
 \starttext
 \dorecurse{4}{
 \section{Hello}
 \input knuth \endgraf
 \subsection{Sub Hello}
 \input tufte \endgraf}
 \stoptext

Hallo!

This doesn't work here, too!

The wiki said it should work. So, maybe there ist something broken in 
the meantime.

In 'page-lay.tex' I found something with

\setuplayout[odd][state=stop]
\setuplayout[even][state=stop]

so

a.) Not alone \definelayout but also \setuplayout should work with 
odd|even.
b.) Because there is something to stop here, there may be some need 
to start it?

Btw. \definelayout[1][] doesn't work too.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-27 Thread nico
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:10:12 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is wrong in there?

 \definelayout[odd]
[width=middle,
 backspace=7cm,
 cutspace=5cm]

 \definelayout[even]
[backspace=8cm,
 cutspace=2cm,
 width=middle]

 \setuplayout

 Hallo!

 This doesn't work here, too!

Yes, Hans sent me off-list a patch that works fine with the beta  
2006.08.22 release. The given example is:

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\setuplayout [width=11cm]
\definelayout [odd]  [backspace=1cm]
\definelayout [even] [backspace=4cm]
\definelayout [5][backspace=5cm]
\definelayout [6][backspace=5cm]
\definelayout [-2]   [backspace=0cm,cutspace=0cm]
\definelayout [last] [backspace=0cm,cutspace=0cm]

\checkcurrentlayout \showframe

\starttext
   \dorecurse{20} {\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}
\stoptext

Thanks again to Hans that I guess will include it in a next release.

Regards,
BG
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[NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-27 Thread Horacio Suarez
May I define and setup two diferents layouts and swicht between them?

I want a bigger textwidth in the last 6 chapters.

Thankyou very much.




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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:10:12 +0200

  Well, I start from the beginning with odd/even layout setting, and
  the
  following does not work. The behaviour I see is that only the odd
  setting
  is used. What is wrong in there?
 
  \definelayout[odd]
 [width=middle,
  backspace=7cm,
  cutspace=5cm]
 
  \definelayout[even]
 [backspace=8cm,
  cutspace=2cm,
  width=middle]
 
  \setuplayout
 
  %\showlayout
 
  \starttext
  \dorecurse{4}{
  \section{Hello}
  \input knuth \endgraf
  \subsection{Sub Hello}
  \input tufte \endgraf}
  \stoptext

Hallo!

This doesn't work here, too!

The wiki said it should work. So, maybe there ist something broken in
the meantime.

In 'page-lay.tex' I found something with

\setuplayout[odd][state=stop]
\setuplayout[even][state=stop]

so

a.) Not alone \definelayout but also \setuplayout should work with
odd|even.
b.) Because there is something to stop here, there may be some need
to start it?

Btw. \definelayout[1][] doesn't work too.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-26 Thread nico
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:37:46 +0200, nico [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Hello,

 I wonder if it is possible to setup a layout with these requirements:

 - it can be doublesided, that is, when doublesided the left margin (LM)
 and right margin (RM) are different and mirrored on right/left pages.

 - the headings (section, etc.) start just after the left margin.

 - the text body has an extra left text margin (TM) that is not mirrored.

 Here is an example of the expected output in doublesided mode:

 Left Page:
  LM  TM  RM
 |--7 8--  -5-|
 |   1. This is a Title |
 |  |
 |   This is the text body  |
 |   that has a bigger left |
 |   margin.|

 Right Page:

 RMTMLM
 |-5--- 8--  --7--|
 | The test continues on|
 | This page.   |
 |  |
 | 2. Another Title |
 |  |

Well, I start from the beginning with odd/even layout setting, and the  
following does not work. The behaviour I see is that only the odd setting  
is used. What is wrong in there?

\definelayout[odd]
   [width=middle,
backspace=7cm,
cutspace=5cm]

\definelayout[even]
   [backspace=8cm,
cutspace=2cm,
width=middle]

\setuplayout

%\showlayout

\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{
\section{Hello}
\input knuth \endgraf
\subsection{Sub Hello}
\input tufte \endgraf}
\stoptext

Regards,
BG
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-26 Thread Willi Egger
Hi,

To me it should not be necessary to define odd and even layouts for your 
purposes. (Of course I stand corrected!)

If you choose \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] the page 
layout is swapped automatically.
For the realisation of the titles sticking into the margin one should 
be able to use \setuphead[section,subsection][command=...]

This would look then like this:

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\setuplayout
[backspace=2cm,
leftmargin=5cm,
rightmargin=7cm]

\setupnarrower[left=3cm]
\setuphead[section,subsection][after={\startnarrower[left]}]

\showframe
\starttext
\section{Hello}
\setuphead[section][before=\stopnarrower]
\input knuth \par
\subsection{Sub Hello}
\setuphead[subsection][before=\stopnarrower]
 \input tufte \par
\dorecurse{4}{
\section{Hello}
 \input knuth \endgraf
\subsection{Sub Hello}
 \input tufte \endgraf}
\stoptext

I admit, this is not yet working correctly, but I can't find the key at 
the moment ;-)

Willi

nico wrote:
 Hello,

 I wonder if it is possible to setup a layout with these requirements:

 - it can be doublesided, that is, when doublesided the left margin (LM)  
 and right margin (RM) are different and mirrored on right/left pages.

 - the headings (section, etc.) start just after the left margin.

 - the text body has an extra left text margin (TM) that is not mirrored.

 Here is an example of the expected output in doublesided mode:

 Left Page:
  LM  TM  RM
 |--7 8--  -5-|
 |   1. This is a Title |
 |  |
 |   This is the text body  |
 |   that has a bigger left |
 |   margin.|

 Right Page:

 RMTMLM
 |-5--- 8--  --7--|
 | The test continues on|
 | This page.   |
 |  |
 | 2. Another Title |
 |  |

 For singlesided documents I can play with a setup like this (the  
 margindistances should be taken into account too):

 \setuphead[section][margin=-TM]
 \setuplayout[leftmargin=TM+LM,
   rightmargin=RM,
   backspace=TM+LM,
   width=\paperwidth-(RM+TM+LM)]

 For doublesided documents I thought about using textwidth or textmargin,  
 but in this case the text margin is applied on left and right (the text is  
 in the middle).

 Should I play with other setup parameters? What is the best way to achieve  
 this?

 Thanks for any hint,

 Regards,
 BG
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Willi Egger wrote:
 Hi,

 To me it should not be necessary to define odd and even layouts for your 
 purposes. (Of course I stand corrected!)
   
in the case that one has a strangely assymetric layout (no mirroring) one can 
do 

\setuplayout[odd] []
\setuplayout[even][]



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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-26 Thread nico
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:29:23 +0200, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Willi Egger wrote:
 Hi,

 To me it should not be necessary to define odd and even layouts for your
 purposes. (Of course I stand corrected!)

 in the case that one has a strangely assymetric layout (no mirroring)  
 one can do

 \setuplayout[odd] []
 \setuplayout[even][]

But it doesn't work. In the following case it is simply ignored (default  
setting used). I've this behaviour with live context too. What's wrong?

\setuplayout[odd]
   [width=middle,
backspace=7cm,
cutspace=5cm]

\setuplayout[even]
   [backspace=8cm,
cutspace=4cm,
width=middle]

\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{
\section{Hello}
\input knuth \endgraf
\subsection{Sub Hello}
\input tufte \endgraf}
\stoptext

Regards,
BG
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[NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-24 Thread nico
Hello,

I wonder if it is possible to setup a layout with these requirements:

- it can be doublesided, that is, when doublesided the left margin (LM)  
and right margin (RM) are different and mirrored on right/left pages.

- the headings (section, etc.) start just after the left margin.

- the text body has an extra left text margin (TM) that is not mirrored.

Here is an example of the expected output in doublesided mode:

Left Page:
 LM  TM  RM
|--7 8--  -5-|
|   1. This is a Title |
|  |
|   This is the text body  |
|   that has a bigger left |
|   margin.|

Right Page:

RMTMLM
|-5--- 8--  --7--|
| The test continues on|
| This page.   |
|  |
| 2. Another Title |
|  |

For singlesided documents I can play with a setup like this (the  
margindistances should be taken into account too):

\setuphead[section][margin=-TM]
\setuplayout[leftmargin=TM+LM,
  rightmargin=RM,
  backspace=TM+LM,
  width=\paperwidth-(RM+TM+LM)]

For doublesided documents I thought about using textwidth or textmargin,  
but in this case the text margin is applied on left and right (the text is  
in the middle).

Should I play with other setup parameters? What is the best way to achieve  
this?

Thanks for any hint,

Regards,
BG
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