Re: [NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped

2005-12-02 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:



That one even I know how to answer:

The Lucida's don't ship with math at the moment. The only
LB you can get at the moment is the Bigelow & Holmes version,
and that doesn't have the Y&Y math PFB's even.

The Y and Y version to be released by TUG is still under
negotiation (afaik), and it has not been released yet.

Anyway, I more than half expect that to become a package by Walter 
Schmidt with VF files and without backward compatibility to the

Y and Y offering  (just like the new mathtime pro release)


i assume that the pfb files will be left untouched so we can still use 
the existing metrics and such; i hate to break compatibility


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped

2005-12-02 Thread Taco Hoekwater


That one even I know how to answer:

The Lucida's don't ship with math at the moment. The only
LB you can get at the moment is the Bigelow & Holmes version,
and that doesn't have the Y&Y math PFB's even.

The Y and Y version to be released by TUG is still under
negotiation (afaik), and it has not been released yet.

Anyway, I more than half expect that to become a package by Walter 
Schmidt with VF files and without backward compatibility to the

Y and Y offering  (just like the new mathtime pro release)

Taco

Hans Hagen wrote:

Richard Gabriel wrote:


Hello Henk,

I reply to your request only beacause I'm also using the Lucida Bright 
fonts.

At least, you must also have the appropriate .tfm files for your fonts.
In addition, I also have some virtual fonts (.vf) that have been 
created for Lucida fonts for the particular encondings (namely ec).
In ConTeXt, you need to write the font definitions, so-called 
typescripts.
I must confess it took me quite much time and testing to understand 
how typescripts work and make myself a bit familiar with them!


If you want, contact me off-list and we can discuss the particular 
issues.



i'm wondering ... do the lucida font nowadays ship with the math 
specific tfm files (that used to be the case)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped

2005-12-02 Thread Hans Hagen

Richard Gabriel wrote:


Hello Henk,

I reply to your request only beacause I'm also using the Lucida Bright 
fonts.

At least, you must also have the appropriate .tfm files for your fonts.
In addition, I also have some virtual fonts (.vf) that have been 
created for Lucida fonts for the particular encondings (namely ec).

In ConTeXt, you need to write the font definitions, so-called typescripts.
I must confess it took me quite much time and testing to understand 
how typescripts work and make myself a bit familiar with them!


If you want, contact me off-list and we can discuss the particular issues.


i'm wondering ... do the lucida font nowadays ship with the math 
specific tfm files (that used to be the case)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped

2005-12-02 Thread Richard Gabriel




Hello Henk,I reply to your request only beacause I'm also using the Lucida Bright fonts.At least, you must also have the appropriate .tfm files for your fonts. In addition, I also have some virtual fonts (.vf) that have been created for Lucida fonts for the particular encondings (namely ec). In ConTeXt, you need to write the font definitions, so-called typescripts.I must confess it took me quite much time and testing to understand how typescripts work and make myself a bit familiar with them!If you want, contact me off-list and we can discuss the particular issues.-RichardFrom: Henk Koster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ntg-context@ntg.nlSent: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:20:33 +0100Subject: [NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumpedI've been using teTeX - LaTeX - LucidaBright fonts for many years, but amunable to make these fonts work in ConTeXt. My present setup after installingteTeX (a Debian or Ubuntu package):1. Make a directory /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy2. Copy the LB .pfb files to subdirectories lubright, lucida, lucidfax,   lucsans and lumath3. Run texhashand everything works fine in LaTeX -- I only have to specify\usepackage{lucidbry} in the preamble of my documents. Couldn't be easier.I've read through some of the archived messages on this newsgroup forclues for making LB fonts work with ConTeXt, I have even tried followingthe suggested steps, but no dice. Could someone here please list theprecise steps required to get from my above teTeX setup to one that worksin ConTeXt?-- H.A.J. Koster"Behavioral axioms are right, but agents make mistakes..."(attributed to L.J. Savage)___ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nlhttp://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Re: [NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped

2005-12-02 Thread Hans Hagen

Henk Koster wrote:


I've been using teTeX - LaTeX - LucidaBright fonts for many years, but am
unable to make these fonts work in ConTeXt. My present setup after installing
teTeX (a Debian or Ubuntu package):

1. Make a directory /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy

2. Copy the LB .pfb files to subdirectories lubright, lucida, lucidfax,
  lucsans and lumath

3. Run texhash

and everything works fine in LaTeX -- I only have to specify
\usepackage{lucidbry} in the preamble of my documents. Couldn't be easier.

I've read through some of the archived messages on this newsgroup for
clues for making LB fonts work with ConTeXt, I have even tried following
the suggested steps, but no dice. Could someone here please list the
precise steps required to get from my above teTeX setup to one that works
in ConTeXt?

 

lucida is just one of the many possible commercial fonts that one can 
install so it has no special treatment (ok, the math needs some care)


the reason why it works in 'one step' in latex is that it  uses the kb 
naming scheme exclusively and only supports a few encodings (in theory 
many, but in practice distributions only ship ec things, maybe for 
lucida also the texnansi encoded things)


(btw, interesting that subdirectories are uses, esp since the latest 
texlive has subdirectories for for instance ams fonts)


if you want to use the kb names, you need to make a mapping from the 
more verbose names to the ones you want


\definefontsynonym[texnansi-lbr][whateverisusedinstead]

in principle these mappings can be added to type-dis.tex in which case 
you can enable them with:


\usetypescript[berry][texnansi]

because most fonts i use are not in tex distributions i always generate 
metrics using texfont; this is what i do when i install a font (i 
normally install fonts on my windows laptop and when needed copy them to 
the unix server)


put the originals on a font repository (flat)

mkdir h:\fonts\bh\lucida

i go to the root

cd /d h:\fonts

i remove instances in the texmftree

texfont --encoding=texnansi --ven=bh --coll=lucida --remove

then i generate metrics (and installs)

texfont --encoding=texnansi --ven=bh --coll=lucida --so=bh/lucida --ma 
--in --expert


because math  is special, i move the math related files to

texmf-local|fonts/fonts/tfm/bh/lucida
texmf-local|fonts/fonts/type1/bh/lucida

in principle the files should now in the right spot

btw, i posted a zip with lucida metrics for texnansi and ec a few days ago

if there is interest, i can add the lucida metrics (ec and texnansi) to 
the cont-fnt zip file


(lucida always has been kind of special because yandy had its own 
opinions about fonts)


Hans

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[NTG-context] LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped

2005-12-01 Thread Henk Koster
I've been using teTeX - LaTeX - LucidaBright fonts for many years, but am
unable to make these fonts work in ConTeXt. My present setup after installing
teTeX (a Debian or Ubuntu package):

1. Make a directory /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy

2. Copy the LB .pfb files to subdirectories lubright, lucida, lucidfax,
   lucsans and lumath

3. Run texhash

and everything works fine in LaTeX -- I only have to specify
\usepackage{lucidbry} in the preamble of my documents. Couldn't be easier.

I've read through some of the archived messages on this newsgroup for
clues for making LB fonts work with ConTeXt, I have even tried following
the suggested steps, but no dice. Could someone here please list the
precise steps required to get from my above teTeX setup to one that works
in ConTeXt?

-- 
H.A.J. Koster
"Behavioral axioms are right, but agents make mistakes..."
(attributed to L.J. Savage)



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