Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-23 Thread Johannes Graumann
Just trying to keep this on the radar ... ;0)

Merry Chrismas!

Joh

Hans Hagen wrote:

 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
 Hans for this feature.
 
 i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look
 at it (not today, no time)
 
 Hans
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

  2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
   2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
   Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
  
   \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
 \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
   \stopxmlsetups
  
   \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
  
   \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
 \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
   \stopxmlsetups
  
   \starttext
 \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
   \stoptext
  
   replace this with
  
   \starttext
   \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
   \stoptext
  
   \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with
   xmlregistersetup
  
  Thanks for the hint, but
 
  \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
  \stopxmlsetups
 
  \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
 
  \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
\xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
  \stopxmlsetups
 
  \starttext
\xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
  \stoptext
 
  doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...
 
  Can you send a real example (Openoffice file plus TeX file).

 Attached. Thanks for your time. Joh

I tried this yesterday myself but I get the same error no xml file found.

Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
Hans for this feature.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
 Hans for this feature.

i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look 
at it (not today, no time)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-19 Thread Johannes Graumann
Thanks Hans! Please keep me informed ... I will bug you then and again ;0)

Joh

Hans Hagen wrote:

 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
 Hans for this feature.
 
 i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look
 at it (not today, no time)
 
 Hans
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Dear all,

 What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
 capabilities?
 
 there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll 
 probably give a tutorial at the context conference)

I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be 
available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.

Sorry if the question seems to be stupid. I would like to know whether 
this will be available for LuaTeX + LaTeX one day.

Thanks,


Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Dec 18, 2007 1:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
  Johannes Graumann wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
  capabilities?
 
  there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
  probably give a tutorial at the context conference)

 I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be
 available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.
In luatex there is already lxml, which makes the basic layer.
Context mkiv add a 'context way' to do things .

 Sorry if the question seems to be stupid. I would like to know whether
 this will be available for LuaTeX + LaTeX one day.
I don't have the answer, but the question is not stupid at all.
From my point of view,
one day
pdftex+latex
will be replaced by
luatex+latex
in a transparent way.
Maybe in 2009 .


-- 
luigi
...
it's new .
it's powerful .
it's luatex .
http://www.luatex.org
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Johannes Graumann
Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
Can someone please have a quick look at the following:

\startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
  \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

\startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
  \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
\stopxmlsetups

\starttext
  \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
\stoptext

Why do I get nothing but a tuo file when processing like so:
texmfstart \
texexec --lua --purge --arg=odt=Versuch.odt --result=Versuch.odt.pdf \
COOnTeXML.tex
where the code above is in COOnTeXML.tex and Versuch.odt contains a text:p
tag ...

Thanks, Joh

Hans Hagen wrote:

 Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
 capabilities?
 
 there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
 probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
 
 Hans
 
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
 Can someone please have a quick look at the following:

 \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
   \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
 \stopxmlsetups

 \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

 \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
   \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
 \stopxmlsetups

 \starttext
   \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
 \stoptext

replace this with

\starttext
\xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
\stoptext

\processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with xmlregistersetup

 Why do I get nothing but a tuo file when processing like so:
 texmfstart \
 texexec --lua --purge --arg=odt=Versuch.odt --result=Versuch.odt.pdf \
 COOnTeXML.tex
 where the code above is in COOnTeXML.tex and Versuch.odt contains a text:p
 tag ...

 Thanks, Joh

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Johannes Graumann
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
 Can someone please have a quick look at the following:

 \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
   \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
 \stopxmlsetups

 \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

 \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
   \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
 \stopxmlsetups

 \starttext
   \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
 \stoptext
 
 replace this with
 
 \starttext
 \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
 \stoptext
 
 \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with xmlregistersetup
 
Thanks for the hint, but

\startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
  \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

\startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
  \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
\stopxmlsetups

\starttext
  \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
\stoptext

doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...

Joh

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

  2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
  Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
 
  \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
  \stopxmlsetups
 
  \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
 
  \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
\xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
  \stopxmlsetups
 
  \starttext
\processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
  \stoptext
 
  replace this with
 
  \starttext
  \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
  \stoptext
 
  \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with xmlregistersetup
 
 Thanks for the hint, but

 \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
   \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
 \stopxmlsetups

 \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

 \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
   \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
 \stopxmlsetups

 \starttext
   \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
 \stoptext

 doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...

Can you send a real example (Openoffice file plus TeX file).

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Johannes Graumann
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

  2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
  Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
 
  \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
  \stopxmlsetups
 
  \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
 
  \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
\xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
  \stopxmlsetups
 
  \starttext
\processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
  \stoptext
 
  replace this with
 
  \starttext
  \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
  \stoptext
 
  \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with
  xmlregistersetup
 
 Thanks for the hint, but

 \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
   \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
 \stopxmlsetups

 \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

 \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
   \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
 \stopxmlsetups

 \starttext
   \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
 \stoptext

 doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...
 
 Can you send a real example (Openoffice file plus TeX file).

Attached. Thanks for your time. Joh
% texmfstart texexec --lua COOnTeXML.tex --arg=odt=someotherfile.zip
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
  \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}

\startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
  \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
\stopxmlsetups

\starttext
  \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
\stoptext


Versuch.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
 Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Dear all,

 What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
 capabilities?
 there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll 
 probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
 
 I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be 
 available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.

luatex is just lua + tex + access to each other, the luatex dev team 
will *not* provide solutions; mkiv is what we use for testing etc etc

 Sorry if the question seems to be stupid. I would like to know whether 
 this will be available for LuaTeX + LaTeX one day.

i'm thinking of a multi layer context i.e. kind of macro package 
building subsystem; this means that we can for instance provide a kind 
of bare tex with only core functionality (fonts, languages, io, xml, etc)

i have no plans to support latex if only because i have no need for it; 
the xml parser is rather generic, which is why it is in l-xml, but 
things may change (there will be more functionality, as in lxml-*)

(btw, the lpath code is somewhat experimental and will be extended, as 
will manipulative functions)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-18 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote:
 On Dec 18, 2007 1:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
 Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Dear all,

 What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
 capabilities?
 there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
 probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
 I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be
 available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.
 In luatex there is already lxml, which makes the basic layer.
 Context mkiv add a 'context way' to do things .

bewqre, that's officially mkiv code; okay, it's mostly generic, and 
could be used elsewhere but that only makes sense when i've frozen the api;

Hans

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[NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-17 Thread Johannes Graumann
Dear all,

What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
capabilities?

Thanks, Joh


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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV and XML documentation

2007-12-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
 capabilities?

there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll 
probably give a tutorial at the context conference)

Hans

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