Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-21 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/20/2013 11:36 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:22:41PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:


My suggestion is to just use \phys_units_text_* always, since the
decomposed, two characters is the preferred form for those two units.


“In normal use, it is better to represent degrees Celsius ‘°C’ with a
  sequence of U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN + U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C, rather
  than U+2103 DEGREE CELSIUS. For searching, treat these two sequences as
  identical. Similarly, the sequence U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN + U+0046 LATIN
  CAPITAL LETTER F is preferred over U+2109 DEGREE FAHRENHEIT, and those
  two sequences should be treated as identical for searching.”

  http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.2.0/ch15.pdf#G20445


Searching should be ok due to the tonunicode that mentions the two 
characters ... how about the visual aspect? Should we care about?


It's no problem to make an option to always use the split version.

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-21 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:01:30AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/20/2013 11:36 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
 On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:22:41PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
 
 My suggestion is to just use \phys_units_text_* always, since the
 decomposed, two characters is the preferred form for those two units.
 
 “In normal use, it is better to represent degrees Celsius ‘°C’ with a
   sequence of U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN + U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C, rather
   than U+2103 DEGREE CELSIUS. For searching, treat these two sequences as
   identical. Similarly, the sequence U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN + U+0046 LATIN
   CAPITAL LETTER F is preferred over U+2109 DEGREE FAHRENHEIT, and those
   two sequences should be treated as identical for searching.”
 
   http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.2.0/ch15.pdf#G20445
 
 Searching should be ok due to the tonunicode that mentions the two
 characters ... how about the visual aspect? Should we care about?

I think for ConTeXt purposes we should just ignore the composed form, it
is there only for compatibility with some legacy CJK encodings and their
use is almost discouraged. If user enters those code points directly,
then he on his own, so nothing to be done here either.

In short, this is just some of the compatibility nonsense crippling
Unicode, we are better off pretending they do not exist

Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 In short, this is just some of the compatibility nonsense crippling
 Unicode, we are better off pretending they do not exist

  Second that.

Arthur
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[NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Romain Diss
Hi all,

The °C symbol is missing in math mode with the dejavu font. I thought that 
this should be handled by using the '°' + 'C' symbols instead but it is not 
the case.
Is that a bug?
What can I do to get the °C symbol with this font?

%% MWE
\setupbodyfont[dejavu]
\starttext
  Temperature : \unit{100 celsius} works.\par
  Temperature : \m{\unit{100 celsius}} doesn't work.
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0200
Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 The °C symbol is missing in math mode with the dejavu font. I thought
 that this should be handled by using the '°' + 'C' symbols instead
 but it is not the case.
 Is that a bug?
 What can I do to get the °C symbol with this font?

With dejavu, A, B, and D all work, but C is missing a symbol. 

A 100℃

B 100°C

C $100℃$

D $100°C$


Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
 On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0200
 Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 
  The °C symbol is missing in math mode with the dejavu font. I thought
  that this should be handled by using the '°' + 'C' symbols instead
  but it is not the case.
  Is that a bug?
  What can I do to get the °C symbol with this font?
 
 With dejavu, A, B, and D all work, but C is missing a symbol. 
 
 A 100℃
 
 B 100°C
 
 C $100℃$

Since this is compatibility character, I think ConTeXt should just
degree + plain capital C.

Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Romain Diss
Le lundi 20 mai 2013, Alan BRASLAU a écrit :
 On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0200
 Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr wrote:
  The °C symbol is missing in math mode with the dejavu font. I thought
  that this should be handled by using the '°' + 'C' symbols instead
  but it is not the case.
  Is that a bug?
  What can I do to get the °C symbol with this font?
 With dejavu, A, B, and D all work, but C is missing a symbol.
 A 100℃
 B 100°C
 C $100℃$
 D $100°C$
The question is: do \unit is supposed to handle this case and automatically 
switch from C to D if C is missing.
If not, how can I tell \unit that C is missing and that I want \unit{celsius} 
to use D?

Thanks

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 20.05.2013 um 23:04 schrieb Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr:

 Le lundi 20 mai 2013, Alan BRASLAU a écrit :
 On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0200
 Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 The °C symbol is missing in math mode with the dejavu font. I thought
 that this should be handled by using the '°' + 'C' symbols instead
 but it is not the case.
 Is that a bug?
 What can I do to get the °C symbol with this font?
 With dejavu, A, B, and D all work, but C is missing a symbol.
 A 100℃
 B 100°C
 C $100℃$
 D $100°C$
 The question is: do \unit is supposed to handle this case and automatically 
 switch from C to D if C is missing.
 If not, how can I tell \unit that C is missing and that I want \unit{celsius} 
 to use D?


Hans can add a check for math mode for the symbol:

\unprotect

\unexpanded\def\checkedtextcelsius
  {\ifmmode
 \phys_units_text_celsius
   \else\iffontchar\font2103\relax
 ℃\else\phys_units_text_celsius
   \fi\fi}

\unexpanded\def\checkedtextfahrenheit
  {\ifmmode
 \phys_units_text_fahrenheit
   \else\iffontchar\font2109\relax
 ℉\else\phys_units_text_fahrenheit
   \fi\fi}

\protect

\setupbodyfont[dejavu]

\starttext
  Temperature : \unit{100 celsius} works.\par
  Temperature : \m{\unit{100 celsius}} doesn't work.
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:13:16PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 Am 20.05.2013 um 23:04 schrieb Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr:
 
  Le lundi 20 mai 2013, Alan BRASLAU a écrit :
  On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:29:22 +0200
  Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr wrote:
  The °C symbol is missing in math mode with the dejavu font. I thought
  that this should be handled by using the '°' + 'C' symbols instead
  but it is not the case.
  Is that a bug?
  What can I do to get the °C symbol with this font?
  With dejavu, A, B, and D all work, but C is missing a symbol.
  A 100℃
  B 100°C
  C $100℃$
  D $100°C$
  The question is: do \unit is supposed to handle this case and automatically 
  switch from C to D if C is missing.
  If not, how can I tell \unit that C is missing and that I want 
  \unit{celsius} 
  to use D?
 
 
 Hans can add a check for math mode for the symbol:
 
 \unprotect
 
 \unexpanded\def\checkedtextcelsius
   {\ifmmode
  \phys_units_text_celsius
\else\iffontchar\font2103\relax
  ℃\else\phys_units_text_celsius
\fi\fi}
 
 \unexpanded\def\checkedtextfahrenheit
   {\ifmmode
  \phys_units_text_fahrenheit
\else\iffontchar\font2109\relax
  ℉\else\phys_units_text_fahrenheit
\fi\fi}
 
 \protect

My suggestion is to just use \phys_units_text_* always, since the
decomposed, two characters is the preferred form for those two units.

Regards,
Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-20 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:22:41PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:

 My suggestion is to just use \phys_units_text_* always, since the
 decomposed, two characters is the preferred form for those two units.

“In normal use, it is better to represent degrees Celsius ‘°C’ with a
 sequence of U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN + U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C, rather
 than U+2103 DEGREE CELSIUS. For searching, treat these two sequences as
 identical. Similarly, the sequence U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN + U+0046 LATIN
 CAPITAL LETTER F is preferred over U+2109 DEGREE FAHRENHEIT, and those
 two sequences should be treated as identical for searching.”
 
 http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.2.0/ch15.pdf#G20445

Regards,
Khaled
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