Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 10.03.2005 um 10:59 schrieb Gerben Wierda: What I do not understand is how these components end up in a directory hierarchy. What would be very nice is some sort of downloadable archive with some sample basic project structures. Reading the stuff above I still have no idea how to build a directory hierarchy for my project such that it can do all that the project management part of ConTeXt promises. Do you *need* different directories? Perhaps it's sufficient to name your components so that you can easily see what belongs where. AFAIK ConTeXt looks always into the parent directories, but not in parallel/child directories if not explicitly specified. (E.g. you can define a figures path.) you can say \usepath[somepath] \usesubpath[one] \usesubpath[two] etc - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
On 11 Mar 2005, at 21:58, Matthias Weber wrote: Relative paths work fine for me as long as they point to subdirectories. However, I could never get something like ../figures to work on Mac Os X, but that might be my ignorance. I just got ../images to work but thenmy product file is in a subdirectory. book-context/images/ book-context/products/prd_book.tex (I am running from this directory) book-context/chapter1.tex etc. G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
Relative paths work fine for me as long as they point to subdirectories. However, I could never get something like ../figures to work on Mac Os X, but that might be my ignorance. Matthias but I might be wrong On Mar 11, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote: On 11 Mar 2005, at 18:02, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 10.03.2005 um 10:59 schrieb Gerben Wierda: What I do not understand is how these components end up in a directory hierarchy. What would be very nice is some sort of downloadable archive with some sample basic project structures. Reading the stuff above I still have no idea how to build a directory hierarchy for my project such that it can do all that the project management part of ConTeXt promises. Do you *need* different directories? Perhaps it's sufficient to name your components so that you can easily see what belongs where. AFAIK ConTeXt looks always into the parent directories, but not in parallel/child directories if not explicitly specified. (E.g. you can define a figures path.) Did you have a look at the wiki: http://contextgarden.net/Project_structure Certainly I did, and I used the scripts that were linked there. But none of the explanations give examples of directory hierarchy. Take for instance images. I've set up a directory for images. But the only way I can get ConTeXt to find the images is to have an absolute path in the directory \setupexternalfigures[directory=/Volumes/Data/Users/gerben/Documents/ Prive/book-context/images, maxwidth=\textwidth] I have my chapters (components) in book-context and my product file in book-context/products But I would like some directory structure *without* this absolute path, if only because it does not work when mirrored to my laptop where the home directory is quite somewhere else. G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
On 11 Mar 2005, at 18:02, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 10.03.2005 um 10:59 schrieb Gerben Wierda: What I do not understand is how these components end up in a directory hierarchy. What would be very nice is some sort of downloadable archive with some sample basic project structures. Reading the stuff above I still have no idea how to build a directory hierarchy for my project such that it can do all that the project management part of ConTeXt promises. Do you *need* different directories? Perhaps it's sufficient to name your components so that you can easily see what belongs where. AFAIK ConTeXt looks always into the parent directories, but not in parallel/child directories if not explicitly specified. (E.g. you can define a figures path.) Did you have a look at the wiki: http://contextgarden.net/Project_structure Certainly I did, and I used the scripts that were linked there. But none of the explanations give examples of directory hierarchy. Take for instance images. I've set up a directory for images. But the only way I can get ConTeXt to find the images is to have an absolute path in the directory \setupexternalfigures[directory=/Volumes/Data/Users/gerben/Documents/ Prive/book-context/images, maxwidth=\textwidth] I have my chapters (components) in book-context and my product file in book-context/products But I would like some directory structure *without* this absolute path, if only because it does not work when mirrored to my laptop where the home directory is quite somewhere else. G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
Am 10.03.2005 um 10:59 schrieb Gerben Wierda: What I do not understand is how these components end up in a directory hierarchy. What would be very nice is some sort of downloadable archive with some sample basic project structures. Reading the stuff above I still have no idea how to build a directory hierarchy for my project such that it can do all that the project management part of ConTeXt promises. Do you *need* different directories? Perhaps it's sufficient to name your components so that you can easily see what belongs where. AFAIK ConTeXt looks always into the parent directories, but not in parallel/child directories if not explicitly specified. (E.g. you can define a figures path.) Did you have a look at the wiki: http://contextgarden.net/Project_structure Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
> Gerben Wierda wrote: >> I am (again) considering moving to ConTeXt. A few years ago I >> investigated >> the move because I have apositive impression of the quality of the >> ConTeXt >> project and because I find the standard LaTeX layouts ugly. At that time >> I >> decided against it because the first thing I tried (a list within a >> list) >> did not work and because I was under the impression that I would have to >> do alot of layout myself (and I have TeX for that, right?). I am >> thinking >> of using LaTeX and the memoir class. Anyway, I am still tempted. >> >> So I am investigating again. I would like to know if (and how) I can do >> the following in ConTeXt. I did read the manual before writing this: >> - Project structure for a book, chapters to be in separate files. >> Chapters >> to be processed individually when required, or better: chapter + >> index/toc/appendices, etc. How do you do that? I do not understand the >> manual here entirely and my test from a few years ago failed. > > you can use something > > === thisbook.tex > > \startproject book > >\environment mystyle.tex > > > \stopproject > > === book.tex > > \startproduct book > > \project thisbook > > \component whatever > \component onemore > > \stopproduct > > === whatever.tex > > \startcomponent whatever > > \project thisbook > > > > \stopcomponent > > you can then run product and component files independently What I do not understand is how these components end up in a directory hierarchy. What would be very nice is some sort of downloadable archive with some sample basic project structures. Reading the stuff above I still have no idea how to build a directory hierarchy for my project such that it can do all that the project management part of ConTeXt promises. G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:46:54 +0100:
>> - lettrine.sty (I have my own TeX code now, but lettrine is probably
better)
>
>your own code should not be a problem as long as you don;t overload low
level
>commands
Most of the lettrine basics are exposed in the DroppedCaps macros in
supp-fun, and in some higher-level macros
{setupinitial,placeinitial,checkinitial} in core-fnt. I only noticed the
latter recently, with this message:
>> - microtype.sty (protrusion,probably no stretching)
>
>no problem, (adam lindsay can probably best help you with that in
relation to
>the fonts that you have on th emac)
Who, me?
As you probably know, protrusion doesn't work with XeTeX, only pdf(e)TeX.
Glad you don't need stretching, cos I haven't worked with that one, yet!
But yeah, I know a few Mac OS X/ConTeXt font tricks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
Gerben Wierda wrote: I am (again) considering moving to ConTeXt. A few years ago I investigated the move because I have apositive impression of the quality of the ConTeXt project and because I find the standard LaTeX layouts ugly. At that time I decided against it because the first thing I tried (a list within a list) did not work and because I was under the impression that I would have to do alot of layout myself (and I have TeX for that, right?). I am thinking of using LaTeX and the memoir class. Anyway, I am still tempted. So I am investigating again. I would like to know if (and how) I can do the following in ConTeXt. I did read the manual before writing this: - Project structure for a book, chapters to be in separate files. Chapters to be processed individually when required, or better: chapter + index/toc/appendices, etc. How do you do that? I do not understand the manual here entirely and my test from a few years ago failed. you can use something === thisbook.tex \startproject book \environment mystyle.tex \stopproject === book.tex \startproduct book \project thisbook \component whatever \component onemore \stopproduct === whatever.tex \startcomponent whatever \project thisbook \stopcomponent you can then run product and component files independently - lettrine.sty (I have my own TeX code now, but lettrine is probably better) your own code should not be a problem as long as you don;t overload low level commands - Page layout as in a book (no whitespace between pars and indentation). \setupindenting and \setupwhitespace etc (probably samples in the wiki) Good readable. - mfpic or another way to program drawings (vectors/functions) metapost; or just mfpic and converted to pdf - microtype.sty (protrusion,probably no stretching) no problem, (adam lindsay can probably best help you with that in relation to the fonts that you have on th emac) - Optional paragraph (not line) numbering, suppressable (as in some philosophy books) supported - 2 output options: - Final: Large paperback size (somewhat larger than pocket) pages centered on A4 portrait paper - Draft: Two of those pages,slightly shrunk on A4 landscape paper. No fancy ordering, just page 0-1, 2-3, 4-5, etc. \startmode[final] ... settings ... \stopmode and then texexec --mode=final or just in your file \endablemode[final] at the top So, how do I do these things? I would like to try to recode a part ofmy book-project in ConTeXt to see if it works for me. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Moving to ConTeXt
I am (again) considering moving to ConTeXt. A few years ago I investigated the move because I have apositive impression of the quality of the ConTeXt project and because I find the standard LaTeX layouts ugly. At that time I decided against it because the first thing I tried (a list within a list) did not work and because I was under the impression that I would have to do alot of layout myself (and I have TeX for that, right?). I am thinking of using LaTeX and the memoir class. Anyway, I am still tempted. So I am investigating again. I would like to know if (and how) I can do the following in ConTeXt. I did read the manual before writing this: - Project structure for a book, chapters to be in separate files. Chapters to be processed individually when required, or better: chapter + index/toc/appendices, etc. How do you do that? I do not understand the manual here entirely and my test from a few years ago failed. - lettrine.sty (I have my own TeX code now, but lettrine is probably better) - Page layout as in a book (no whitespace between pars and indentation). Good readable. - mfpic or another way to program drawings (vectors/functions) - microtype.sty (protrusion,probably no stretching) - Optional paragraph (not line) numbering, suppressable (as in some philosophy books) - 2 output options: - Final: Large paperback size (somewhat larger than pocket) pages centered on A4 portrait paper - Draft: Two of those pages,slightly shrunk on A4 landscape paper. No fancy ordering, just page 0-1, 2-3, 4-5, etc. So, how do I do these things? I would like to try to recode a part ofmy book-project in ConTeXt to see if it works for me. Thanks, G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
