Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-19 Thread Christoph Reller
On 11/5/2014 21:50 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
 On 11/5/2014 10:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
  On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
   Thank you very much Hans!
  
   Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
   front of the full stop:
  
   \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
   \starttext
   \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
   \eTABLE
   \stoptext
 
  because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [
 
   If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
 
  i'll add the . to the filter criteria

 Thank you for the explanation.  I am not sure if it is a wise idea to add
 only . (the full stop).  I tried the following characters, and they all
 are preceded by a space:

   . - _ # % , ; @ !

 Basically, what I want is to write a file system path name such as
 C:\Path_to-my\file.ext.  The above characters are all valid file system
 characters.  Is there a better solution?  Or are you willing to add all
the
 above (maybe except for # and %) to the absolute cleaner?

For anybody interested in this: I have decided to resort to
\hyphenatedurl{...}. This means that I have to escape \ as \\, # as \# and
% as \letterpercent. Let me know if you have a better solution.

Christoph
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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-09 Thread Keith Schultz
hello all,

i do not have nfts, but there are assume users that do not live in western 
countries
and use characters that are not in ascii!!

just a thought.

regards
Keith.


 Am 07.11.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Christoph Reller christoph.rel...@gmail.com:
 
 On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:11:09 +0100
 Alan Braslau alan.bras...@cea.fr mailto:alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote
  On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:15:36 +0100
  Christoph Reller christoph.rel...@gmail.com 
  mailto:christoph.rel...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS
  
  Not everyone uses NTFS.
 
 Another reason for not making a file-name cleaner as such, but rather 
 restricting the characters to ascii.

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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-07 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:15:36 +0100
Christoph Reller christoph.rel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS

Not everyone uses NTFS.
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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-07 Thread Christoph Reller
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:11:09 +0100
Alan Braslau alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote
 On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:15:36 +0100
 Christoph Reller christoph.rel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS

 Not everyone uses NTFS.

Another reason for not making a file-name cleaner as such, but rather
restricting the characters to ascii.

Regards,
Christoph
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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-06 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/5/2014 9:50 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:

On 11/5/2014 10:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
  On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
   Thank you very much Hans!
  
   Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
   front of the full stop:
  
   \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
   \starttext
   \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
   \eTABLE
   \stoptext
 
  because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [
 
   If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
 
  i'll add the . to the filter criteria

Thank you for the explanation.  I am not sure if it is a wise idea to
add only . (the full stop).  I tried the following characters, and
they all are preceded by a space:

   . - _ # % , ; @ !

Basically, what I want is to write a file system path name such as
C:\Path_to-my\file.ext.  The above characters are all valid file system
characters.  Is there a better solution?  Or are you willing to add all
the above (maybe except for # and %) to the absolute cleaner?


we could have a specific filename cleaner but of course there will be 
users who have paths that have spaces after the \ ... okay, we could 
just not support evil paths like that


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-06 Thread Christoph Reller
On 11/6/2014 9:58 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 we could have a specific filename cleaner but of course there will be
 users who have paths that have spaces after the \ ... okay, we could
 just not support evil paths like that

 Hans

A rigorous filename cleaner would have to treat a huge number of possible
Unicodes. This is overkill. I believe the best would be to have a cleaner
for all ascii symbols. That would fit most purposes of writing file names
and URIs:

  !#$%'*()+,-./:;=?@[\]^_`{|}~

Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS:

  */:?|

Still I think they should be included in the cleaner. If % or # pose
problems then they may be omitted.

With the current absolute-cleaner, a space after \ is preserved
correctly, so I don't understand your comment:

\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]\starttext
\bTABLE\bTR\bTD \ctype{\a\ b} \eTD\eTR\eTABLE\stoptext

I would be glad if you could implement such a ascii-symbol-cleaner.

Thanks,

Christoph
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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-05 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:

  On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
  
   MWE:
  
   \starttext
   \type{\test\test} %- no space introduced
   \bTABLE
   \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %- space introduced
   \eTABLE
   \stoptext
 
  it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
  wikify it):
 
  \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
 
  \bTABLE
   \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
  \eTABLE

Thank you very much Hans!

Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
front of the full stop:

\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
\starttext
\bTABLE
   \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext


because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [


If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.


i'll add the . to the filter criteria

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-05 Thread Christoph Reller
On 11/5/2014 10:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
  Thank you very much Hans!
 
  Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
  front of the full stop:
 
  \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
  \starttext
  \bTABLE
 \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
  \eTABLE
  \stoptext

 because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [

  If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.

 i'll add the . to the filter criteria

Thank you for the explanation.  I am not sure if it is a wise idea to add
only . (the full stop).  I tried the following characters, and they all
are preceded by a space:

  . - _ # % , ; @ !

Basically, what I want is to write a file system path name such as
C:\Path_to-my\file.ext.  The above characters are all valid file system
characters.  Is there a better solution?  Or are you willing to add all the
above (maybe except for # and %) to the absolute cleaner?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Christoph
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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-04 Thread Christoph Reller
 On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
 
  MWE:
 
  \starttext
  \type{\test\test} %- no space introduced
  \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %- space introduced
  \eTABLE
  \stoptext

 it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
 wikify it):

 \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]

 \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
 \eTABLE

Thank you very much Hans!

Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in front
of the full stop:

\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
\starttext
\bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.

Regards,
Christoph
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[NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-03 Thread Christoph Reller
On 11/2/2014 2:54 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
 
  MWE:
 
  \starttext
  \type{\test\test} %- no space introduced
  \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %- space introduced
  \eTABLE
  \stoptext

 it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
 wikify it):

 \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]

 \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
 \eTABLE

Thank you very much Hans!

Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in front
of the full stop:

\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
\starttext
\bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

Any feedback is welcome.

Regards,
Christoph
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[NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-02 Thread Christoph Reller
Hi,

Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?

MWE:

\starttext
\type{\test\test} %- no space introduced
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %- space introduced
\eTABLE
\stoptext

Kind Regards,
Christoph
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Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables introduces spaces in \type

2014-11-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:

Hi,

Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?

MWE:

\starttext
\type{\test\test} %- no space introduced
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %- space introduced
\eTABLE
\stoptext


it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and 
wikify it):


\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]

\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE

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