Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Aditya Mahajan wrote: I had a similar problem. I needed cygwin ruby because there are certain ruby packages (e.g. narray) that I could get to work with cygwin ruby without any hassle but do not work with the ruby one click installer. But cygwin ruby and context do not go together. I was actually following your thread on comp.lang.ruby hoping that someone will come up with a solution, but no suggestion worked. What I finally did was, download and install the one click installer, but removed it from the PATH. So when I am working on other projects, I get the cygwin ruby which works fine. I added a line to setuptex.bat that adds the one-click windows ruby to the front of the path. So when a context program asks for a ruby, it gets the windows version and everything works fine. The only drawback is that I can not use rxvt+bash, and have to use cmd.exe why the one-click installer, just take the 2-4 meg version compiled with the native ms compiler; that's the one i use and it works perfectly (for years now) http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/binaries/mswin32/ Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Todd DeVries wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to install context under miktex 2.4. I've updated the format files and followed other instructions as per the contextgarden discussions. I'm probably missing something really obvious and would appreciate any help offered. I receive this output when running the following commands: I don't know why I keep using MikTeX (there are problems all the time, but it is [or at least it should be] easy to update and is already installed on most computers here), just some points: - texexec --make --all doesn't work anyway (well, it works, but it forgets to copy the files to the proper place) If you want to make formats, go to MikTeX options - TeX formats - choose cont-en - Edit ... Here are the values that I have (it may be that I changed any of them manually, I don't remember): Format Name: cont-en Compiler: pdfe-TeX (Extended Mode) Input File Name: cont-en.tex Output File Name: cont-en.efmt Exclude has to be unchecked - MikTeX updates the formats automatically (if it does). If it doesn't, the standard ConTeXt ways fail anyway and searching for files doesn't always work either - I often have problems after upgrading ConTeXt, but I can hardly tell you what to do. I try all the different tricks (updating filename database, building the formats, ...) without any success, but after two days it simply works again by some black magic. texexec test.txt TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 unknown file type: texmfscripts fixing texformat path : C:/localtexmf/miktex/fmt fixing engine variable : pdfetex total run time : 0 seconds That's the output that I get if the file doesn't exist. Can you make a file test.tex (not txt) and try to compile that one? Send the new report then (if there are any differences of course). texexec --version and TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 unknown file type: texmfscripts texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (MiKTeX 2.4) (preloaded format=cont-en 2006.1.15) 15 JAN 2006 11:32 context : ver: 2006.01.09 cont-en : ver: 2006.01.09 fmt: 2006.1.15 mes: english unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' total run time : 1 seconds I also get this output since December (I thought that ConTeXt was broken at first), but it is harmless and compiling the documents nevertheless works. Perhaps that extensive use of unknown file type: 'fmt' is the new Taco's inclusion that Hans mentioned in some other mail ;) unknown file type: texmfscripts should also be harmless and will disapear once MikTeX starts to support the new pdfTeX (if I understood correctly). Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
--- On Jan 16, Mojca Miklavec wrote --- Todd DeVries wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to install context under miktex 2.4. I've updated the format files and followed other instructions as per the contextgarden discussions. I'm probably missing something really obvious and would appreciate any help offered. I receive this output when running the following commands: I don't know why I keep using MikTeX (there are problems all the time, but it is [or at least it should be] easy to update and is already installed on most computers here), just some points: I use latex a lot, and for windows+latex Miktex is one of the best distribution. Most of the packages get installed on the fly and it can be updated easily. Once you get used to it, it is hard to try other latex distributions. - texexec --make --all doesn't work anyway (well, it works, but it forgets to copy the files to the proper place) It also happens with me and the solution that you describe below works. You need to update the formats from Miktex Options. I *guess* the reason texexec fails to place the format in proper place is because it simply does not know where the localtexmf tree is. I am not sure if it has a way of finding it out without the user specifying an environment variable. If you want to make formats, go to MikTeX options - TeX formats - choose cont-en - Edit ... Here are the values that I have (it may be that I changed any of them manually, I don't remember): Format Name: cont-en Compiler: pdfe-TeX (Extended Mode) Input File Name: cont-en.tex Output File Name: cont-en.efmt Exclude has to be unchecked - MikTeX updates the formats automatically (if it does). If it doesn't, the standard ConTeXt ways fail anyway and searching for files doesn't always work either - I often have problems after upgrading ConTeXt, but I can hardly tell you what to do. I try all the different tricks (updating filename database, building the formats, ...) without any success, but after two days it simply works again by some black magic. Here is what I do (I am not sure even if this is the correct thing to do, but seems to work) Make a tree called pragma-texmf. Download cont-tmf.zip and cont-fnt.zip and unzip them in pragma-texmf. Go to MikTex options and add pragma-texmf as a tree. Move it up so that it is the first tree. This way whenever any program searches for a context related file, it finds it in the pragma-tree. Now go and recreate the formats. Everything works (well except mptopdf the program, but that is not critical for me). To keep in sync with context's pace of development, simply download the entire cont-tmf tree whenever a newer version is released. I have not managed to convince texsync to just download texmf tree, and I do not really care about downloading a big zip. This makes me feel whether it is a good idea to have miktex and context for windows (from the pragma site) in parallel. I use cygwin and context for windows only seems to work from cmd.exe and not bash.exe. I tried to convert setuptex.sh to setuptex.bash, but could not get to work. So, I settled with the method of downloading the relevant trees and things work (by black magic, as you said) Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Thanks to all who responded to my question yesterday. Not sure why, but documents are compiling and formats are found. Perhaps I'll do a stand-alone install to make updates easier in the future. Todd On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:35:29 -0500 (EST), you wrote: --- On Jan 16, Mojca Miklavec wrote --- Todd DeVries wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to install context under miktex 2.4. I've updated the format files and followed other instructions as per the contextgarden discussions. I'm probably missing something really obvious and would appreciate any help offered. I receive this output when running the following commands: I don't know why I keep using MikTeX (there are problems all the time, but it is [or at least it should be] easy to update and is already installed on most computers here), just some points: I use latex a lot, and for windows+latex Miktex is one of the best distribution. Most of the packages get installed on the fly and it can be updated easily. Once you get used to it, it is hard to try other latex distributions. - texexec --make --all doesn't work anyway (well, it works, but it forgets to copy the files to the proper place) It also happens with me and the solution that you describe below works. You need to update the formats from Miktex Options. I *guess* the reason texexec fails to place the format in proper place is because it simply does not know where the localtexmf tree is. I am not sure if it has a way of finding it out without the user specifying an environment variable. If you want to make formats, go to MikTeX options - TeX formats - choose cont-en - Edit ... Here are the values that I have (it may be that I changed any of them manually, I don't remember): Format Name: cont-en Compiler: pdfe-TeX (Extended Mode) Input File Name: cont-en.tex Output File Name: cont-en.efmt Exclude has to be unchecked - MikTeX updates the formats automatically (if it does). If it doesn't, the standard ConTeXt ways fail anyway and searching for files doesn't always work either - I often have problems after upgrading ConTeXt, but I can hardly tell you what to do. I try all the different tricks (updating filename database, building the formats, ...) without any success, but after two days it simply works again by some black magic. Here is what I do (I am not sure even if this is the correct thing to do, but seems to work) Make a tree called pragma-texmf. Download cont-tmf.zip and cont-fnt.zip and unzip them in pragma-texmf. Go to MikTex options and add pragma-texmf as a tree. Move it up so that it is the first tree. This way whenever any program searches for a context related file, it finds it in the pragma-tree. Now go and recreate the formats. Everything works (well except mptopdf the program, but that is not critical for me). To keep in sync with context's pace of development, simply download the entire cont-tmf tree whenever a newer version is released. I have not managed to convince texsync to just download texmf tree, and I do not really care about downloading a big zip. This makes me feel whether it is a good idea to have miktex and context for windows (from the pragma site) in parallel. I use cygwin and context for windows only seems to work from cmd.exe and not bash.exe. I tried to convert setuptex.sh to setuptex.bash, but could not get to work. So, I settled with the method of downloading the relevant trees and things work (by black magic, as you said) Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Thanks! That worked for me. --Ralph If you want to make formats, go to MikTeX options - TeX formats - choose cont-en - Edit ... Here are the values that I have (it may be that I changed any of them manually, I don't remember): Format Name: cont-en Compiler: pdfe-TeX (Extended Mode) Input File Name: cont-en.tex Output File Name: cont-en.efmt Exclude has to be unchecked - MikTeX updates the formats automatically (if it does). If it doesn't, the standard ConTeXt ways fail anyway and searching for files doesn't always work either -- -- Ralph Roberts, CEO aBOOKS / 1VIDeo / Creativity, Inc. 65 Macedonia Road Alexander, North Carolina 28701 828-252-9515, 828-255-8719 fax 800-472-0437 orders only websites: http://abooks.com http://1vid.com ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Make a tree called pragma-texmf. Download cont-tmf.zip and cont-fnt.zip and unzip them in pragma-texmf. Go to MikTex options and add pragma-texmf as a tree. Move it up so that it is the first tree. /.../ This makes me feel whether it is a good idea to have miktex and context for windows (from the pragma site) in parallel. I use cygwin and context for windows only seems to work from cmd.exe and not bash.exe. I tried to convert setuptex.sh to setuptex.bash, but could not get to work. So, I settled with the method of downloading the relevant trees and things work (by black magic, as you said) I have them (MikTeX and the stand-alone from Pragma) in parallel without any problem. I created pragmatex.bat (visible by PATH) which calls the setuptex.bat (or whatever the script in the stand-alone distr. is called). The two distros don't interfere at all. Once I call pragmatex, all the sources and executables are chosen from the stand-alone tree when I compile the documents. (But thanks for the idea of making another texmf-pragma tree! I always managed to break something when mixing MikTeX and original files from Pragma, that's why I preferred to leave things as they are and use another distro instead.) I'm not sure, but I guess that you would need tetex to run it from bash. Don't ask me about the numerous (still unsolved) problems I had just because the ruby executable is only available under cygwin at the university. Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
--- On Jan 16, Mojca Miklavec wrote --- Aditya Mahajan wrote: Make a tree called pragma-texmf. Download cont-tmf.zip and cont-fnt.zip and unzip them in pragma-texmf. Go to MikTex options and add pragma-texmf as a tree. Move it up so that it is the first tree. /.../ This makes me feel whether it is a good idea to have miktex and context for windows (from the pragma site) in parallel. I use cygwin and context for windows only seems to work from cmd.exe and not bash.exe. I tried to convert setuptex.sh to setuptex.bash, but could not get to work. So, I settled with the method of downloading the relevant trees and things work (by black magic, as you said) I have them (MikTeX and the stand-alone from Pragma) in parallel without any problem. I created pragmatex.bat (visible by PATH) which calls the setuptex.bat (or whatever the script in the stand-alone distr. is called). The two distros don't interfere at all. Once I call pragmatex, all the sources and executables are chosen from the stand-alone tree when I compile the documents. (But thanks for the idea of making another texmf-pragma tree! I always managed to break something when mixing MikTeX and original files from Pragma, that's why I preferred to leave things as they are and use another distro instead.) I once again tried to install the standalone context distribution and it works :-). So, I deleted context from the miktex distribution and now use the standalone distribution. Hopefully, it will be more stable than in miktex. I'm not sure, but I guess that you would need tetex to run it from bash. Don't ask me about the numerous (still unsolved) problems I had just because the ruby executable is only available under cygwin at the university. I had a similar problem. I needed cygwin ruby because there are certain ruby packages (e.g. narray) that I could get to work with cygwin ruby without any hassle but do not work with the ruby one click installer. But cygwin ruby and context do not go together. I was actually following your thread on comp.lang.ruby hoping that someone will come up with a solution, but no suggestion worked. What I finally did was, download and install the one click installer, but removed it from the PATH. So when I am working on other projects, I get the cygwin ruby which works fine. I added a line to setuptex.bat that adds the one-click windows ruby to the front of the path. So when a context program asks for a ruby, it gets the windows version and everything works fine. The only drawback is that I can not use rxvt+bash, and have to use cmd.exe Aditya -- Aditya Mahajan, EECS Systems, University of Michigan http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam || Ph: 7342624008 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Hi, I'm attempting to install context under miktex 2.4. I've updated the format files and followed other instructions as per the contextgarden discussions. I'm probably missing something really obvious and would appreciate any help offered. I receive this output when running the following commands: texexec test.txt TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 unknown file type: texmfscripts fixing texformat path : C:/localtexmf/miktex/fmt fixing engine variable : pdfetex total run time : 0 seconds texexec --version and TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 unknown file type: texmfscripts texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (MiKTeX 2.4) (preloaded format=cont-en 2006.1.15) 15 JAN 2006 11:32 context : ver: 2006.01.09 cont-en : ver: 2006.01.09 fmt: 2006.1.15 mes: english unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' unknown file type: 'fmt' total run time : 1 seconds ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Todd DeVries wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to install context under miktex 2.4. I've updated the format files and followed other instructions as per the contextgarden discussions. I'm probably missing something really obvious and would appreciate any help offered. I receive this output when running the following commands: texexec test.txt Are you sure your tex file has extension txt? Your output is precisely what you get when texexec cannot find the input file, so I am a bit suspicious that that may be the problem. For the warnings: You need to tell texexec that you are running miktex, but I do not know how precisely that is done (I use tetex) Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New Installation under miktex, not working
Some defaults from my old MiKTeX .ini file (local-texmf/scripts/perl/ texexec.ini) I can't test this as I have defected to a saner platform :-) enable variable miktex at top of file and some variation of this below. for miktex set UsedInterfacesto en, uk for miktex set UserInterface to uk for miktex set TeXExecutable to pdfetex.exe for miktex set TeXVirginFlag to -initialize for miktex set TeXBatchFlag to -interaction=batchmode for miktex set TeXFormatFlag to for miktex set MpToTeXExecutable to mptotex.exe for miktex set MpVirginFlag to -initialize for miktex set MpPassString to for miktex set MpBatchFlag to -interaction=batchmode for miktex set MpFormat to metafun for miktex set MpFormatFlag to -undump= for miktex set TeXFormatPath to d:\local-texmf\miktex\fmt\ for miktex set ConTeXtPath to d:\local-texmf\tex\context\base\ for miktex set SetupPath to c:\Progra~1\MiKTeX\miktek\base\ for miktex set TeXScriptsPath to d:\local-texmf\scripts\context \perl\ for miktex set TeXProgramPath to c:\Progra~1\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\ Also mptopdf will not work unless you set the TEXSYSTEM environment variable to miktex as on ContextGarden. Also it occurs to me that texexec will not recognise test.txt, but will expect test and add .tex itself. Don't forget to update fndb at every opportunity from MikTeX's management app. Christopher Todd DeVries wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to install context under miktex 2.4. I've updated the format files and followed other instructions as per the contextgarden discussions. I'm probably missing something really obvious and would appreciate any help offered. I receive this output when running the following commands: texexec test.txt Are you sure your tex file has extension txt? Your output is precisely what you get when texexec cannot find the input file, so I am a bit suspicious that that may be the problem. For the warnings: You need to tell texexec that you are running miktex, but I do not know how precisely that is done (I use tetex) Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context o00o “Since light travels faster than sound, isn’t that why some people appear bright until you hear them speak” — Steve Wright ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
