Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context]

> On 15 Mar 2022, at 22:31, Gavin via ntg-context  wrote:
> 
> Hi Thomas,
> 
>> I can confirm that context version: 2022.03.12 17:56 is running fine on my 
>> MacBook M1.
> 
> Thanks for that. I’ll troubleshoot my installation.
> 
>> And excuse my snark, but….
> 
> Snark excused.

Ditto - working for me as well.

I completely deleted everything and re-installed using the 64-bit MacOS ARM 
image on this page.


The normal install steps worked: i.e unzip; move the "context-osx-arm64" parent 
directory to where you want it to be (/home/Users//Applications) in my 
case; ran the install script  using the command ". ./install.sh" and it all 
installed nicely. I then added the path it told me about to my .zprofile file 
and to the engine file that I use. Logged out and in just to make sure the 
paths were picked up and it all works from both command line and from TeXShop.

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

Hi List,

ConTeXt is running well after a fresh install. (context version: 2022.03.12 
17:56, I didn’t even need to mess with permissions.) I don’t know why the usual 
update procedure failed for me before. I look forward to checking out the new 
math spacing with Libertinus.

Sorry for the noise, and thanks to everyone who offered me help. 

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

Hi Thomas,

> I can confirm that context version: 2022.03.12 17:56 is running fine on my 
> MacBook M1.

Thanks for that. I’ll troubleshoot my installation.

> And excuse my snark, but….

Snark excused.

Thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context]

> On 15. Mar 2022, at 15:03, Gavin via ntg-context  wrote:
> 
> JP and Bruce,
> 
> Do either of you have the new upload working on an M1 Mac?
> 
> I appreciate the ideas, but I’m not entirely new to this. I’ve kept several 
> different ConTeXt installations. I can run them from terminal or TeXShop. 
> I’ve written TeXShop engines to switch between different installations and to 
> use TeXShop’s alternative path. I’ve never had a problem like the one I am 
> having with the new upload.
> 
> TeXShop and Terminal both have full disk access. Before I devote much more 
> time trying to figure out what might be wrong with my set-up – where other 
> installations work fine – I’d love to get confirmation that somebody got the 
> new upload to work on an M1 Mac.
> 
> Gavin

I can confirm that context version: 2022.03.12 17:56 is running fine on my 
MacBook M1. And excuse my snark, but 

> zsh: permission denied: mtxrun
> 
> I’m not sure how to get around this.

made me also think you were entirely new to this. These security settings have 
been around for a long time now on macOS. 

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

JP and Bruce,

Do either of you have the new upload working on an M1 Mac?

I appreciate the ideas, but I’m not entirely new to this. I’ve kept several 
different ConTeXt installations. I can run them from terminal or TeXShop. I’ve 
written TeXShop engines to switch between different installations and to use 
TeXShop’s alternative path. I’ve never had a problem like the one I am having 
with the new upload.

TeXShop and Terminal both have full disk access. Before I devote much more time 
trying to figure out what might be wrong with my set-up – where other 
installations work fine – I’d love to get confirmation that somebody got the 
new upload to work on an M1 Mac.

Gavin


> On Mar 13, 2022, at 5:53 PM, Bruce Horrocks  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Mar 2022, at 19:55, Gavin via ntg-context  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>>> i uploaded a new installer / uopdates with mojca's bin
>> 
>> Thanks for putting that together. Unfortunately, same result:
>> 
>>  TeXShop produces no output in console
>>  "mtxrun —generate” produces "zsh: killed mtxrun --generate"
>> 
>> 
>> JP,
>> 
>> The control-open trick seemed like a good idea, but it didn’t change my 
>> results. TeXShop findes an old version from TeXLive, probably because it 
>> can’t use the new one. In Terminal I still get “permission denied."
> 
> The instance of mtxrun that TeXShop finds is entirely down to path settings 
> and/or TexShop preferences settings (in its 'engine' files) and nothing to do 
> with the security permissions.
> 
> Regarding the security permissions there is something else to check: go to 
> System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy tab -> Full Disk Access.
> Make sure 'TeXShop.app' and 'Terminal.app' are both in the list.
> 
> If that still doesn't work then there is one more thing but it will be a 
> PITA. :-(
> 
> And that is to install Xcode and the Xcode developer tools. This then gives 
> you another Privacy entry in the left hand list called "Developer Tools" and, 
> above the apps list on the right, the description reads "Allow the apps below 
> to run software locally that does not meet the system's security policy." Add 
> Terminal.app here.
> 
> —
> Bruce Horrocks
> Hampshire, UK

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context]

> On 12 Mar 2022, at 19:55, Gavin via ntg-context  wrote:
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
>> i uploaded a new installer / uopdates with mojca's bin
> 
> Thanks for putting that together. Unfortunately, same result:
> 
>   TeXShop produces no output in console
>   "mtxrun —generate” produces "zsh: killed mtxrun --generate"
> 
> 
> JP,
> 
> The control-open trick seemed like a good idea, but it didn’t change my 
> results. TeXShop findes an old version from TeXLive, probably because it 
> can’t use the new one. In Terminal I still get “permission denied."

The instance of mtxrun that TeXShop finds is entirely down to path settings 
and/or TexShop preferences settings (in its 'engine' files) and nothing to do 
with the security permissions.

Regarding the security permissions there is something else to check: go to 
System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy tab -> Full Disk Access.
Make sure 'TeXShop.app' and 'Terminal.app' are both in the list.

If that still doesn't work then there is one more thing but it will be a PITA. 
:-(

And that is to install Xcode and the Xcode developer tools. This then gives you 
another Privacy entry in the left hand list called "Developer Tools" and, above 
the apps list on the right, the description reads "Allow the apps below to run 
software locally that does not meet the system's security policy." Add 
Terminal.app here.

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context]

Gavin,

Make sure your PATH is correct 
:|PATH=$PATH:/Users/Gavin/.../context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin||and have a 
look on the Internet: 
https://www.lifewire.com/can-i-fix-application-thats-not-starting-2260192|||


Le 12/03/2022 à 20:55, Gavin via ntg-context a écrit :

Hi Hans,


i uploaded a new installer / uopdates with mojca's bin

Thanks for putting that together. Unfortunately, same result:

TeXShop produces no output in console
"mtxrun —generate” produces "zsh: killed mtxrun --generate"


JP,

The control-open trick seemed like a good idea, but it didn’t change my results. 
TeXShop findes an old version from TeXLive, probably because it can’t use the new 
one. In Terminal I still get “permission denied."

Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

Hi Hans,

> i uploaded a new installer / uopdates with mojca's bin

Thanks for putting that together. Unfortunately, same result:

TeXShop produces no output in console
"mtxrun —generate” produces "zsh: killed mtxrun --generate"


JP,

The control-open trick seemed like a good idea, but it didn’t change my 
results. TeXShop findes an old version from TeXLive, probably because it can’t 
use the new one. In Terminal I still get “permission denied."

Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context]

Hi Gavin!

On MacOSX go to "Finder" and search the app. Then, click the app icon 
while holding down the "Control" key on the keyboard, then choose "Open" 
from the pop-up menu.


Click on "Open". The app is saved as an exception in your security 
settings and you can open it later by double-clicking it, like any saved 
app.


Hope it helps !

JP

Le 12/03/2022 à 17:18, Gavin via ntg-context a écrit :

Hi Mojca,

I think my security settings are preventing me from using this luametatex file. 
When trying to update the installation, I got a window that says:

“luametatex” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for 
malicious software.

When I tried running mtxrun --generate, in Terminal, I got the response:

zsh: permission denied: mtxrun

I’m not sure how to get around this.

Gavin



On Mar 12, 2022, at 8:31 AM, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context 
 wrote:

Hans,

I manually uploaded luametatex for arm64-darwin now.
Not that I actually checked anything.

Gavin, are you willing to try the binary from
https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/arm64-darwin/
?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/12/2022 5:18 PM, Gavin wrote:

Hi Mojca,

I think my security settings are preventing me from using this luametatex file. 
When trying to update the installation, I got a window that says:

“luametatex” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for 
malicious software.

When I tried running mtxrun --generate, in Terminal, I got the response:

zsh: permission denied: mtxrun

I’m not sure how to get around this.

i uploaded a new installer / uopdates with mojca's bin

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/12/2022 5:18 PM, Gavin wrote:

Hi Mojca,

I think my security settings are preventing me from using this luametatex file. 
When trying to update the installation, I got a window that says:

“luametatex” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for 
malicious software.

When I tried running mtxrun --generate, in Terminal, I got the response:

zsh: permission denied: mtxrun

I’m not sure how to get around this.
wasn't that discussed on the list at some point? some tricks to tell osx 
it's okay? maybe search the archives



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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

Hi Mojca,

I think my security settings are preventing me from using this luametatex file. 
When trying to update the installation, I got a window that says:

“luametatex” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for 
malicious software.

When I tried running mtxrun --generate, in Terminal, I got the response:

zsh: permission denied: mtxrun

I’m not sure how to get around this.

Gavin


> On Mar 12, 2022, at 8:31 AM, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hans,
> 
> I manually uploaded luametatex for arm64-darwin now.
> Not that I actually checked anything.
> 
> Gavin, are you willing to try the binary from
>https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/arm64-darwin/
> ?
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

Hi Mojca,

> Gavin, are you willing to try the binary from
>https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/arm64-darwin/
> ?

I am willing to try. I downloaded the luametatex file at that address, but I’m 
not sure what to do with it. Do I just replace the luametatex in my 
installation, or should I install usining my usual procedure and then replace?

Gavin

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hans,

I manually uploaded luametatex for arm64-darwin now.
Not that I actually checked anything.

Gavin, are you willing to try the binary from
https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/arm64-darwin/
?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

> question for mojca: i see al getting compiled, even the vm on the mac
> but not the arm mac bin itself so is the main one listening to the
> master? : luametatex.darwin-arm64.moj stays inactive

I noticed that problem already before reaching the machine, but I
couldn't quite figure out what was wrong (I was too tired to debug
yesterday evening).

Python apparently keeps throwing some exceptions on the buildbot master.

Maybe I should just compile the binary and upload it manually for now.

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/12/2022 3:12 PM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:

Hi List,

I just installed the new upload on my M1 mac using my usual procedure, which is 
to update the modules and then run sh ./install.sh (details here: 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX, simplified method).

Afterwords, a hello world context document produced no effect, not even a 
single entry in the console, when using TeXShop. Using the command line to run 
mtxrun --generate. All I got from the effort was:

zsh: killed mtxrun --generate

I’m not sure what that means, but it isn’t promising. I restored my previous 
ConTeXt installation any everything is fine again.

If anyone else has the new upload working on an M1 Mac, or can confirm that it 
isn’t working, I’d like to hear about it.
there are occasional issues with the M1 mac in the build farm (can be 
the vm crashing or some network issues or some osx update or ...) so 
maybe it relates to a recent drop out


I pushed a new 'version' to force a build so you can try to pick up the 
right binary from


https://build.contextgarden.net/#/waterfall?tags=c.luametatex

and see if that one works (so run the update and then use that bin and 
remake the formats) .. if that fails i need to make new zips


question for mojca: i see al getting compiled, even the vm on the mac 
but not the arm mac bin itself so is the main one listening to the 
master? : luametatex.darwin-arm64.moj stays inactive


Hans


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[NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Gavin via ntg-context]

Hi List,

I just installed the new upload on my M1 mac using my usual procedure, which is 
to update the modules and then run sh ./install.sh (details here: 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX, simplified method).

Afterwords, a hello world context document produced no effect, not even a 
single entry in the console, when using TeXShop. Using the command line to run 
mtxrun --generate. All I got from the effort was:

zsh: killed mtxrun --generate

I’m not sure what that means, but it isn’t promising. I restored my previous 
ConTeXt installation any everything is fine again.

If anyone else has the new upload working on an M1 Mac, or can confirm that it 
isn’t working, I’d like to hear about it.

Thanks!
Gavin
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