Re: [NTG-context] OpenType and XeConTeXt

2006-02-15 Thread Charles Doherty
On 14 Feb 2006, at 12:46, Adam Lindsay wrote:[I feel like a lot of the stuff I've done in this space has been  released into a vacuum, and that few people are actually making stuff  with OpenType and/or XeConTeXt.] Dear Adam,You helped me get XeConTeXt up and running and I have been quietly using it and have great pleasure in doing so. Thank you very much again. I suppose it is, as is the case with a lot of areas, that  you don't hear from people until they have a problem. Which brings me to this. I have lost my settings for XeConTeXt during upgrades of TeX/ConTeXt and have recovered by using the information on the ConTeXtwiki but recently this does not seem to work anymore (or perhaps I have done something stupid). I noticed new advice in a recent e-mail:On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:This is XeTeX, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.99b (Web2C 7.5.3)(WARNING: translate-file "natural.tcx" ignored)---! /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/cont-en.fmt waswritten by pdfetex                                                ^^^That's the problem. If you want both xetex and pdftex, you need tohave two different format-files, both called cont-en.fmt. They needto be in two different subdirectories:/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/pdfetex [for pdfetex]/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/xetex   [for xetex]Remove the cont-*.fmt files in the .../web2c directory and regeneratethe formats with texexec.but trying this has not worked for me either. In an e-mail Jonathan Kew suggested he might look into creating an installation script for XeTeX and I encouraged him to do so. In the meantime do you know if the procedure for getting XeConTeX up and running has changed and if so what should I do. I have an iMac G5 10.4.4 and the latest TeX using Gerben's installer.There is at least this voice in the vacuum ready to bother you.Thanks,Charlie___
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[NTG-context] OpenType and XeConTeXt

2006-02-14 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

using ConTeXt with XeTeX seems to be an nice option for us MacOSX users.
But I get always confused with the names for these rich features like  
Style Option, Ligatures, Variants.

I mean: how do I know how many variants and style options a font has  
and how they and their ligatures etc. want to be called?
In plain ConTeXt (for the 255 characters) we can use \showfont[...]  
and \showcharacters in order to know how to call the specific  
characters/glyphs. But what about OpenType?

Peeking at the LaTeX side of XeTeX, I saw that they have created a  
packages called fontspec which seems to give better access to all (?)  
if these options.

What about us? Is there help also for XeConTeXt?

Thank you,
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType and XeConTeXt

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Lindsay
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 using ConTeXt with XeTeX seems to be an nice option for us MacOSX users.
 But I get always confused with the names for these rich features like 
 Style Option, Ligatures, Variants.
 
 I mean: how do I know how many variants and style options a font has and 
 how they and their ligatures etc. want to be called?
 In plain ConTeXt (for the 255 characters) we can use \showfont[...] and 
 \showcharacters in order to know how to call the specific 
 characters/glyphs. But what about OpenType?

\showfont is limited to unicode's 0-255 slots, but it's functional:
  \showfont[Book Antiqua]

 Peeking at the LaTeX side of XeTeX, I saw that they have created a 
 packages called fontspec which seems to give better access to all (?) if 
 these options.
 
 What about us? Is there help also for XeConTeXt?

I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help:
  otfinfo -f ~/Library/Fonts/WarnockPro-Regular.otf

aaltAccess All Alternates
c2scSmall Capitals From Capitals
caseCase-Sensitive Forms
cpspCapital Spacing
cswhContextual Swash
dligDiscretionary Ligatures
dnomDenominators
finaTerminal Forms
fracFractions
histHistorical Forms
kernKerning
ligaStandard Ligatures
lnumLining Figures
numrNumerators
onumOldstyle Figures
ordnOrdinals
ornmOrnaments
pnumProportional Figures
saltStylistic Alternates
sinfScientific Inferiors
sizeOptical Size
smcpSmall Capitals
supsSuperscript
tnumTabular Figures
zeroSlashed Zero


and I can test the features with:
  \showfont[Warnock Pro: +smcp]

Fontspec is an impressive piece of work, but I think it's driven much 
more by the 'possible' than by requirements. My time constraints (i.e., 
daughter) won't let me do that sort of exploratory coding anymore. I can 
try and help out with concrete requests, though.

[I feel like a lot of the stuff I've done in this space has been 
released into a vacuum, and that few people are actually making stuff 
with OpenType and/or XeConTeXt.]

adam
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