Re: [NTG-context] Problems with ConTeXt version 2006.05.11

2006-05-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Otared Kavian wrote:
 If this can be of any help, I noticed that when using the palatino  
 font, some ligatures disappear as well (like fi in first).

Your pdf document did not include the palatino font at all. When
I look at it in Acroread, I see Adobe Serif MM, pretending to be
raw palatino.

It looks like this is all caused by a path searching problem. Because
your pdfetex is also reading the font map files for dvipdfmx in favor
of the ones for pdftex itself.

You should go back trough the list, there have been some other posts
on the path-searching issues past week.

Cheers, Taco
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[NTG-context] Problems with ConTeXt version 2006.05.11

2006-05-14 Thread Otared KAVIAN
Dear all,I installed the latest version of ConTeXt (that is version 2006.05.11) and although some problems have disappeared, some other are still there. Indeed I thank Hans H. and all the wizards working with him for having fixed some of the issues reported previously.
For your information, I am using Gerben Wierda's ConTeXt updater, and running MacOS X 10.4.6. I list below three problems I can observe with some of my test files:1) PostScript fonts declarations are not anymore working. For instance this
\starttext\usetypescript[palatino]\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]Here we are using the font \fontname\font.\blank\input knuth.tex\stoptextis typeset with lmr. The same is true with times.
2) Generating a format with XeTeX, that is creating XeConTeXt, is now possible but still MetaPost code is ignored in the resulting PDF file. For instance this\setupcolors[state=start]\starttext
\startMPcode fill fullcircle scaled 3cm withcolor red; fill fullcircle scaled 3cm shifted (2cm,1cm) withcolor transparent(1,0.5,green); \stopMPcode\stoptextworks fine in ConTeXt, but gives nothing with XeConTeXt.
3) Even though typesetting a file with ConTeXt from within TeXShop works fine, still there is the warningwarning : use 'texmfstart texexec' insteadwhich means that some day those (like me...) who have not well understood how to switch to texmfstart (and in particular how to make it work...) are going to have big problems with the next releases of ConTeXt...
Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with ConTeXt version 2006.05.11

2006-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi OK,

 1) PostScript fonts declarations are not anymore working. For instance this
 
 \starttext
 \usetypescript[palatino]

You need to specify the desired encoding on this line:

   \usetypescript[palatino][ec]

 2) Generating a format with XeTeX, that is creating XeConTeXt, is now 
 possible but still MetaPost code is ignored in the resulting PDF file. 

This is a problem in the XeTeX engine. It always uses the ^^-quoted
form on every byte value below decimal 32, which basically makes it
impossible to create a valid input file for metapost: There are no
line endings written to in the generated file, but instead there are
three-byte sequences, like ^^J or ^^M.

This is why the new linux executable has the -8bit switch. That may
be needed (or even working already) in the OsX version as well.

 3) Even though typesetting a file with ConTeXt from within TeXShop works 
 fine, still there is the warning
 
  warning : use 'texmfstart texexec' instead
 
 which means that some day those (like me...) who have not well 
 understood how to switch to texmfstart (and in particular how to make it 
 work...) are going to have big problems with the next releases of 
 ConTeXt...

The (perl) compatibility scripts will stay around for fairly long time
to come, so there is no reason to panic yet. ;-)

Cheers, taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with ConTeXt version 2006.05.11

2006-05-14 Thread Otared KAVIAN
On 5/14/06, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You need to specify the desired encoding on this line:
  \usetypescript[palatino][ec]Hi Taco, Thanks for your attention.Indeed I had tried to add the encoding option, but then using either [ec] or \defaultencoding there appears a conflict with \enableregime[utf]. For instance,
\enableregime[utf]\starttext\usetypescript[palatino][ec] % or [\defaultencoding]\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]Here we are using the font \fontname\font.And these are some diacritics: é, ç, à, ô, î.
\blank\input knuth.tex\stoptextis typeset with Palatino, but then the diacritics are not typeset. On the other hand before the current version I used to use such settings even without specifying the encoding (that is 
\usetypescript[palatino]instead of \usetypescript[palatino][ec]). For the time being I avoid using non lmr fonts in my documents, but this indeed changes the pages I had before (however for the kind of things I do, this is not an issue...).
 2) Generating a format with XeTeX, that is creating XeConTeXt, is now
 possible but still MetaPost code is ignored in the resulting PDF file.This is a problem in the XeTeX engine. It always uses the ^^-quotedform on every byte value below decimal 32, which basically makes it
impossible to create a valid input file for metapost: There are noline endings written to in the generated file, but instead there arethree-byte sequences, like ^^J or ^^M.This is why the new linux executable has the -8bit switch. That may
be needed (or even working already) in the OsX version as well.Thanks for the insight. I understand that we have to wait for a change in XeTeX.
[...]The (perl) compatibility scripts will stay around for fairly long timeto come, so there is no reason to panic yet. ;-)Thanks for the assurance... I was only reporting a minor concern, shared by some other people on the list.
Cheers: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with ConTeXt version 2006.05.11

2006-05-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi OK (and Hans),

Otared KAVIAN wrote:
 \enableregime[utf]

 is typeset with Palatino, but then the diacritics are not typeset. On 

If you are using XeTeX, then you should not use \enableregime[utf].
If you are not useing XeTeX, then I do not understand what is going
wrong and need a minimal example + log output.

 the other hand before the current version I used to use such settings 
 even without specifying the encoding (that is
 \usetypescript[palatino]
 instead of \usetypescript[palatino][ec]). For the time being I avoid 

For Hans: could \usetypescript default to the of use \defaultencoding
(i.e. ec)?

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with ConTeXt version 2006.05.11

2006-05-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared KAVIAN wrote:
 Hi Taco and Hans,


 On 14 mai 2006, at 15:40, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
  Hi OK (and Hans),
 
  [...]
  If you are using XeTeX, then you should not use \enableregime[utf].
  If you are not useing XeTeX, then I do not understand what is going
  wrong and need a minimal example + log output.
 

 Indeed the problem I am reporting concerns the use of \enableregime
 [utf] and \usetypescript in ConTeXt. I am attaching a minimal example
 together with the auxiliary files created during the typesetting with
 ConTeXt.
 If this can be of any help, I noticed that when using the palatino
 font, some ligatures disappear as well (like fi in first).
the next version will ignore utf regimes in xetex 

Hans 

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