Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Seeing this thread, I wonder now if there's any more interest in helping 
ship a cont-sys.tex and a texexec.ini (before it goes away) that is 
tuned to gwTeX?
just a thought:
if we have
  context/base/gwtex/cont-sys.tex
and some clever search path in texmf.cnf that locates that one first ... ; or 
maybe
  context/base/$distribution/$engine/cont-sys.tex
or maybe even
  context/$distribution/$engine/cont-sys.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Matthias Weber wrote:
[...]
pxex.pfb
rpxmi.pfb
uplr8a.pfb
pxsy.pfb
rpxr.pfb
uplri8a.pfb
These look ok.
/var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
8r.86pk
i wonder why in some cases uplr is used and in other situations pplr.
- maybe palatino px does not go well with the adobekb file?
- maybe some magick auto-name-remapping via the aliases file?
(maybe it's time to drop mapfiles completely)
Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Is there somebody else out there using Gerben's TeXstuff? (I know
there is at least one :-)) I can only guess. Or get a fresh
cont-sys.tex
(www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex)
and play with that one.
when no cont-sys.tex is found (or when you delete it) context will use 
cont-sys.rme instead

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[NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-17 Thread Patrick Gundlach

[...]

 /var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
 8r.86pk

 that's the first time i've seen a palatino bitmap come by; i wonder
 what generates them and from what

 It looks really ugly :), as it is only 44k, I attach it for your
 amusement.

/me is loughing! That looks gross.

 a very clean (i.e. untouched by myself...) TeX tree on my machine.
 Should I wipe the whole TeX installation and reinstall everything?
 (and if yes, what needs to be removed? [using gwTeX])

If it works OK now, I wouldn't touch it (unless you are bored...)

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[NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-17 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello,

 i wonder why in some cases uplr is used and in other situations pplr.

 - maybe palatino px does not go well with the adobekb file?

Probably, but I've got mine typeset correctly, so I still wonder why.

 - maybe some magick auto-name-remapping via the aliases file?

Mystery, not magic ;-)


 (maybe it's time to drop mapfiles completely)

+1 from me

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-17 Thread Adam Lindsay
Seeing this thread, I wonder now if there's any more interest in 
helping ship a cont-sys.tex and a texexec.ini (before it goes away) 
that is tuned to gwTeX?

adam
On 16 Mar 2005, at 19:08, Matthias Weber wrote:
Patrick tracked this down do an  old cont-sys.rme, and my guess is 
that it is erroneously being distributed with Gerben Wiebe's TeX 
installation
(which I use).
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-17 Thread Matthias Weber
I am not even sure where the problem lies, as I am not at all familiar 
with what gets changed for the Mac distribution.
I only noted that with the Mac gwTeX beta for ConTeXT,

i) the font test file with palatino etc doesn't work properly,
ii) replacing the cont-sys.rme in the beta distribution tree with the 
one from pragma
   makes it work,
iii) re-installing the ConTeXt beta via gwTeX breaks it again (so it 
wasn't me unconsciously messing around with the TeX tree)

I am happy to help testing things, but I probably won't be of any use 
when it comes to OS-specific TeXnicalities.

Matthias

On Mar 17, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Adam Lindsay wrote:
Seeing this thread, I wonder now if there's any more interest in 
helping ship a cont-sys.tex and a texexec.ini (before it goes away) 
that is tuned to gwTeX?

adam
On 16 Mar 2005, at 19:08, Matthias Weber wrote:
Patrick tracked this down do an  old cont-sys.rme, and my guess is 
that it is erroneously being distributed with Gerben Wiebe's TeX 
installation
(which I use).
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[NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

your file works fine here. Can you post your log file?

Or try \setupencoding[default=ec]. But this shouldn't make any
differences. 

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Matthias Weber
Hi Patrick,
thanks for looking into this.
Log file follows,
\setupencoding[default=ec] has no effect.
Matthias
 TeXExec 5.2.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : Untitled-2
output : pdftex
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
 (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./Untitled-2.tex
ConTeXt  ver: 2005.03.02  fmt: 2005.3.4  int: english  mes: english
language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
color   : palette rollover is available
)
system  : cont-old loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns en-ec:ec-1-2:2 uk-ec:ec-2-2:2  
de-texnansi:tex
nansi-3-2:2 de-ec:ec-4-2:2 fr-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:2  
fr-ec:ec-6-2:2
 es-ec:ec-7-2:2 it-texnansi:texnansi-9-2:2 it-ec:ec-10-2:2  
nl-texnans
i:texnansi-11-2:2 nl-ec:ec-12-2:2 cz-il2:il2-13-2:2  
cz-ec:ec-14-2:2
sk-il2:il2-15-2:2 sk-ec:ec-16-2:2 pl-pl0:pl0-17-2:2  
pl-ec:ec-18-2:2
 loaded
specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system  : Untitled-2.top loaded
(./Untitled-2.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)

[NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

ok, you are already using ec encoding as default,
\setupencoding[default=ec] has of course no effect then.


[...]

 pxex.pfb 
 rpxmi.pfb
 uplr8a.pfb
 pxsy.pfb
 rpxr.pfb
 uplri8a.pfb

These look ok.

 /var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
 8r.86pk

There it is. There must be something wrong with your map file. How
does your cont-sys.tex (in your case: cont-sys.rme) look like? 

Do you have something like:

\autoloadmapfilestrue
\loadmapfile[ec-base.map]

in there? What happens if if you use \loadmapfile[ec-base.map] at the
beginning of your test document?


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Matthias Weber
My cont-sys.rme is in
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
and has the two lines you mention (I attach the file below, it looks 
kind of old (1995).

Also, if I add
\loadmapfile[ec-base.map]
nothing changes ---
I tried to locate ec-base.map, but couldn't find it. Is this a regular 
file somewhere in the TeX tree?

Matthias
On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hi,
ok, you are already using ec encoding as default,
\setupencoding[default=ec] has of course no effect then.
[...]
pxex.pfb
rpxmi.pfb
uplr8a.pfb
pxsy.pfb
rpxr.pfb
uplri8a.pfb
These look ok.
/var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
8r.86pk
There it is. There must be something wrong with your map file. How
does your cont-sys.tex (in your case: cont-sys.rme) look like?
Do you have something like:
\autoloadmapfilestrue
\loadmapfile[ec-base.map]
in there? What happens if if you use \loadmapfile[ec-base.map] at the
beginning of your test document?
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Matthias Weber wrote:
/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public- lm.map}
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-courier.map): cannot open font map file
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-helvetica.map): cannot open font map file
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-times.map): cannot open font map file
{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
youngryu-
tx.map}
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
youngryu-
px.map}]
smells like missing files
/var/tmp/texfonts/pk/modeless/adobe/palatino/pplr
8r.86pk
that's the first time i've seen a palatino bitmap come by; i wonder what 
generates them and from what

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[NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Patrick Gundlach

[...]

 I tried to locate ec-base.map, but couldn't find it. Is this a regular
 file somewhere in the TeX tree?

It should be in texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map

ConTeXt ships this file. kpsewhich ec-base.map does not give you any
result? 

What distribution are you using? 

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Matthias Weber
[...]
kpsewhich ec-base.map
returns
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map
and there it is indeed -- I had used locate beforfe.
I am using Gerben's TeX installation via iinstaller, without any own 
changes.

Matthias
On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
[...]
I tried to locate ec-base.map, but couldn't find it. Is this a regular
file somewhere in the TeX tree?
It should be in texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map
ConTeXt ships this file. kpsewhich ec-base.map does not give you any
result?
What distribution are you using?
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Matthias Weber
Hi,
I replaced my cont-sys.rme with the one at  
www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme

Everything appears to be ok now -- the difference between the two files
seems to be the following if-statement in the OLD file:
\donefalse \ifx\pdftexversion\undefined \else  
\ifnum\number\pdftexversion119
  \donetrue
\fi \fi \ifdone

  \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
  \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
  \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]
\else
  \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
etc
So I guess this file should have been updated but wasn't for some  
reason.

Thanks Patrick!
Matthias

On Mar 16, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hi,
[...]
kpsewhich ec-base.map
returns
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec- 
base.map
oh, stupid me! It was already mentioned in the log file. Sorry.

I am using Gerben's TeX installation via iinstaller, without any own
changes.
Can you copy the cont-sys.rme to  cont-sys.tex and comment out the
lines with the mapfile related commands?
Is there somebody else out there using Gerben's TeXstuff? (I know
there is at least one :-)) I can only guess. Or get a fresh
cont-sys.tex
(www.pragma-ade.com/system/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont- 
sys.tex)
and play with that one.

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[NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Matthias,

 Everything appears to be ok now -- 

Good News! Now I can go out and celebrate St. Patrick's Day tomorrow
:-))



 So I guess this file should have been updated but wasn't for some
 reason.

Perhaps other GWTEX users should check that as well?

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Willi Egger
Hi Mathias,
your example runs smoothly here, using:
pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2
ConTeXt  ver: 2005.01.26  fmt: 2005.1.26
1. Which version of ContTeXt do you run? A new version requires the 
map-files to be placed in  ...\fonts\map.

2. Niew versions of pdftex do nomore use a pdftex.cfg file. So the 
mapfiles must be loaded explicitely with \loadmapfile[...] or must be 
lodaed automatically - see also cont-usr.tex

Kind regards
Willi
Matthias Weber wrote:
Hello,
I am not desperate to use new fonts right now, but whenever I see
somebody with a success I'll give it a try.
Here is what happens to me when
trying to use palatino (or any of the other fonts) with the sample file
(Mac OS X, most recent gwTeX)

%% testing-fonts.tex
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos]
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
%% for times uncomment this
%\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
%\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
\starttext
\input knuth
\bigskip
And this is some maths with PostScript fonts.
\startformula
{a \over b} = {c \over d} \iff ad - bc = 0, \qquad \int_0^{2\pi}  
\sin(x)^2dx =\pi, \qquad {\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0.
\stopformula

\stoptext

It gives me the plain text in the right font, but as a bitmap font,  
which reminds me of the bad old times
when one looked at TeX output without the Adobe Type Manager in OS  7-9...

I get the warning (which I wouldn't be able to fix)
Warning: pdfetex (file ec-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original- 
youngryu-
px.map}]

The math part uses the computer modern fonts as usual.
Any clues what I'm missing?
Matthias

On Mar 11, 2005, at 4:57 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello Thomas,
[...]
create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some
default support for Palatino. Am I missing something?

Yes go to the garden and search for palatino. You'll find:
http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Palatino? - bitmap fonts???

2005-03-16 Thread Matthias Weber
On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Willi Egger wrote:
Hi Mathias,
your example runs smoothly here, using:
pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2
ConTeXt  ver: 2005.01.26  fmt: 2005.1.26

Thanks for looking at this, but :)
pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
ConTeXt  ver: 2005.03.02  fmt: 2005.3.4  int: english  mes: english

Patrick tracked this down do an  old cont-sys.rme, and my guess is that 
it is erroneously being distributed with Gerben Wiebe's TeX 
installation
(which I use).

Matthias


1. Which version of ContTeXt do you run? A new version requires the 
map-files to be placed in  ...\fonts\map.

2. Niew versions of pdftex do nomore use a pdftex.cfg file. So the 
mapfiles must be loaded explicitely with \loadmapfile[...] or must be 
lodaed automatically - see also cont-usr.tex

Kind regards
Willi
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