Re: [NTG-context] Russian/Cyrillic - no woes, happy now!

2009-02-05 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Mari Voipio wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Caveat: This is advisable if you use Scite only with UTF-8 encoded files. If
 you use SciTe for files with other encoding, it is not a good idea. Why, you
 ask?
 Because in the Encoding menu under File there's no way of switching a tab
 back to for example Windows Iso-Latin1 or whatever else your files are.

 I know SciTe menus are adjustable so if somebody knows of a way to adding
 'switch tab to code.page 0' or 'windows default encoding' or something
 similar to the Encoding menu, that'd be very much appreciated. Until then, I
 probably have to give up using SciTe as my html editor or some other people
 will be veerryyy annoyed...

Unless web pages are in ASCII, I never even dare to use anything but UTF-8.

In the long run you will probably want to or have to switch ... the
sooner you do that the better.
I don't know what you use your web pages for, but if you allow user
input (for example asking visitors for name), you discriminate users
for not being able to enter their name properly.

Lots of people that use ISO Latin 1 don't bother to specify encoding
since the web pages seem to just work. If you try to open those
files (or see the web page) on some machine where Latin 2 in the
default, you'll run into problems anyway.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Russian/Cyrillic - no woes, happy now!

2009-02-05 Thread luigi scarso




 Mari
 (...who's next job is to convert a pile of files into UTF-8...)


Maybe you can consider (under linux,I dont'know about windows)
recode
iconv

sometimes they are useful .

-- 
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] Russian/Cyrillic - no woes, happy now!

2009-02-05 Thread Mari Voipio

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Mari Voipio wrote:

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

3. Select UTF-8 in menu File/Encoding

This solved problem number 1: how to do UTF in SciTe.


The problem is that you need to do that every time. There is some file
with user settings that you can access through menu. Do not ask me
where it is since I cannot try it now, but it's very handy since you
only do it once and then UTF-8 will always work out-of-the-box.


Agreed. However, once I knew I should be looking for this, I found one 
solution to this problem at 
http://www.nabble.com/default-encoding-to-utf-8-cookie-td5946114.html


The thing to do is to open the SciTe global properties (Options | Open 
Global Properties) and to find the spot that says


# Internationalisation
# Japanese input code page 932 and ShiftJIS character set 128
#code.page=932
#character.set=128
# Unicode
#code.page=65001
code.page=0
#character.set=204
# Required for Unicode to work on GTK+:
#LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
#output.code.page=65001

Then uncomment the line code.page=65001 and comment the line code.page=0 
(for us Windows dummies: move the hash mark # down by one line).
After this change everything opened in Scite in Windows is handled as 
UTF-8 (GTK+ users will take note of the second comment). Remember to 
save the properties file before closing it.



Caveat: This is advisable if you use Scite only with UTF-8 encoded 
files. If you use SciTe for files with other encoding, it is not a good 
idea. Why, you ask?
Because in the Encoding menu under File there's no way of switching a 
tab back to for example Windows Iso-Latin1 or whatever else your files are.


I know SciTe menus are adjustable so if somebody knows of a way to 
adding 'switch tab to code.page 0' or 'windows default encoding' or 
something similar to the Encoding menu, that'd be very much appreciated. 
Until then, I probably have to give up using SciTe as my html editor or 
some other people will be veerryyy annoyed...




Mari
(...who's next job is to convert a pile of files into UTF-8...)
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Re: [NTG-context] Russian/Cyrillic - no woes, happy now!

2009-02-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 04.02.2009 um 16:18 schrieb Mari Voipio:


5. Added % engine=luatex at the begin of the file


This solved problem number 2: how to force SciTe to always use MkIV.


To use XeTeX add % engine=xetex at the top of your file, for most
languages it's unimportant which engine you use as long as you don't
use on of the MkIV only features.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Russian/Cyrillic - no woes, happy now!

2009-02-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Mari Voipio wrote:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 3. Select UTF-8 in menu File/Encoding

 This solved problem number 1: how to do UTF in SciTe.

The problem is that you need to do that every time. There is some file
with user settings that you can access through menu. Do not ask me
where it is since I cannot try it now, but it's very handy since you
only do it once and then UTF-8 will always work out-of-the-box.

Mojca
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