[NTG-context] Some APA- and language related bibliography problems
Hi list,
I have some problems with a bibliography. Please consider the following
example
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
Ein Zitat \cite[HagenHoekwater2011].
Noch ein Zitat \cite[SchrammKopiez2009].
\placepublications[criterium=text]
\stoptext
which results in
Ein Zitat (Hagen and Hoekwater, 2011). Noch ein Zitat (Schramm and
Kopiez, 2009).
Hagen, H. and Hoekwater, T. (2011). Fonts in ConTEXt. Boekplan, NL.
Schramm, H. and Kopiez, R. (2009). Die alltägliche nutzung von musik. In
Bruhn, H., Kopiez, R. and Lehmann, A. C., editors, Musikpsychologie. Das
neue Handbuch, pages 253-265. Reinbek bei Hamburg: Rowohlt Taschenbuch
Verlag.
There are some language specific issues here.
(1) There is written and in the two references between the author's
and between the editor's names, despite the fact that I changed the
mainlanguage to German. I learned that I can change this to e.g. und with
\setuppublicationlist[lastnamesep={\ und \ }, firstnamesep={\ und \ }]
but is the current mechanism for translation able to automate the
translation here too? Please note that I'm fine with the above
solution, I'm just curious. [Similar issue with andtext in \setupcite]
(2) Similar to the above: How can I change the other inserted
words/text, the APA manual [a] requires something different here:
(Eds.) or (Hrsg.) (without the comma, latter German) instead of
, editors
pp. or S. (German) instead of pages
Do I have to modify ConTeXt bib style files here? I would very much
refrain from that... Those inserted words/texts are in general not used
in German. IIRC these were hardcoded in English inside the style files,
is this still the case?
(3) There was already a thread about this [b]. The current mechanism
messes with the capitalization of the titles Die alltägliche Nutzung
von Musik. In English, this is mostly an aesthetic concern, in German
and other languages this is definitely a bug and makes the reference
list unusable.
Maybe I missed something here: Is it possible to change this without
modifying the ConTeXt core files? If not I request that the function
Thomas pointed out in [b] is removed. If I want uncapitalized titles I
can just use them uncapitalized in th bib or bbl file.
IIRC putting the complete title in extra {}'s in the bib would solve
this but is considered very very bad.
(4) In the APA-style, the entries in the reference list are supposed to
be double-spaced [c]. How can I achieve this? The command
\setupinterlinespace[big] inside \start...\stoptext does the job for the
normal text, but not for the referencelist.
[a] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 202, section 7.02
Books, Reference Books, and Book Chapters.
[b] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059359.html
[c] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 37, section 2.11
References.
I strongly hope that I can get answers to all of my points above, and
any hints and suggestions are appreciated.
Unfortunately I'm very unfamiliar with ConTeXt's mechanisms concerning
the reference list and I don't know where and how to fix these issues,
otherwise I would try to post patches instead...
Kind regards,
Stefan Müller.
@STRING{hh = {Hans Hagen}}
@ELECTRONIC{hh2010,
author = hh,
year = {2010},
title = {Metafun. \CONTEXT\ mkiv},
url = {http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/metafun-s.pdf},
}
@ARTICLE{hh2010a,
author = hh,
title = {The Font Name Mess},
journal = {MAPS},
year = {2010},
volume = {40},
pages = {2-8},
keywords = {context},
}
@ARTICLE{hh2010b,
author = hh,
title = {Grouping in Hybrid Environments},
journal = {MAPS},
year = {2010},
volume = {40},
pages = {67-71},
keywords = {context},
}
@BOOK{Eijkhout1991,
title = {\TeX\ by Topic. A \TeX nician's Reference},
publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
year = {1991},
author = {Victor Eijkhout},
address = {London},
keywords = {general},
}
@BOOK{HagenHoekwater2011,
title = {Fonts in \ConTeXt},
publisher = {Boekplan, NL},
year = {2011},
author = {Hans Hagen and Taco Hoekwater},
isbn = {978-94-90688-03-5},
}
@INCOLLECTION{SchrammKopiez2009,
author = {Holger Schramm and Reinhard Kopiez},
title = {Die alltägliche Nutzung von Musik},
booktitle = {Musikpsychologie. Das neue Handbuch},
editor = {Herbert Bruhn and Reinhard Kopiez and Andreas C. Lehmann},
publisher = {Rowohlt Taschenbuch Verlag},
address = {Reinbek bei Hamburg},
pages = {253-265},
year = {2009},
}___
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Re: [NTG-context] Some APA- and language related bibliography problems
In an off-list conversation I was told that there is an apa-de style.
This is documented in [d] and was not in [e] so I updated that page.
That solves issue (1) and partly issue (2): There is now , Herausgeber
instead of (Hrsg.) what I want (and I think the APA manual wants it,
too). Also, there is Seiten instead of S..
No effect on (3), (4). And there are two more issues I overlooked.
(5) The APA manual [a] shows that it should read Title of book (pp.
xxx-xxx). instead of Title of book, pages xxx-xxx. (the second
reference in the example). This seems to be wrong in apa and apa-de.
(6) Please consider
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa-de]
\starttext
Wieder ein Zitat \cite[hh2010b]
\placepublications[criterium=text]
\stoptext
In the output there is now MAPS, 40:67-71. But following again the
APA manual [f] it should be MAPS, 40, 67-71 and the journal number
40 typeset italic. In the presence of an issue-number x it should
read MAPS, 40(x), 67-71, again only journal name and number italic,
not the issue number.
[d]
http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.pdf
[e] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setuppublications
[f] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 199, section 7.01
Periodicals.
Thanks in advance for considering this!
Stefan
On 18.08.2011 14:24, Stefan Müller wrote:
Hi list,
I have some problems with a bibliography. Please consider the following
example
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
Ein Zitat \cite[HagenHoekwater2011].
Noch ein Zitat \cite[SchrammKopiez2009].
\placepublications[criterium=text]
\stoptext
which results in
Ein Zitat (Hagen and Hoekwater, 2011). Noch ein Zitat (Schramm and
Kopiez, 2009).
Hagen, H. and Hoekwater, T. (2011). Fonts in ConTEXt. Boekplan, NL.
Schramm, H. and Kopiez, R. (2009). Die alltägliche nutzung von musik. In
Bruhn, H., Kopiez, R. and Lehmann, A. C., editors, Musikpsychologie. Das
neue Handbuch, pages 253-265. Reinbek bei Hamburg: Rowohlt Taschenbuch
Verlag.
There are some language specific issues here.
(1) There is written and in the two references between the author's
and between the editor's names, despite the fact that I changed the
mainlanguage to German. I learned that I can change this to e.g. und with
\setuppublicationlist[lastnamesep={\ und \ }, firstnamesep={\ und \ }]
but is the current mechanism for translation able to automate the
translation here too? Please note that I'm fine with the above solution,
I'm just curious. [Similar issue with andtext in \setupcite]
(2) Similar to the above: How can I change the other inserted
words/text, the APA manual [a] requires something different here:
(Eds.) or (Hrsg.) (without the comma, latter German) instead of ,
editors
pp. or S. (German) instead of pages
Do I have to modify ConTeXt bib style files here? I would very much
refrain from that... Those inserted words/texts are in general not used
in German. IIRC these were hardcoded in English inside the style files,
is this still the case?
(3) There was already a thread about this [b]. The current mechanism
messes with the capitalization of the titles Die alltägliche Nutzung
von Musik. In English, this is mostly an aesthetic concern, in German
and other languages this is definitely a bug and makes the reference
list unusable.
Maybe I missed something here: Is it possible to change this without
modifying the ConTeXt core files? If not I request that the function
Thomas pointed out in [b] is removed. If I want uncapitalized titles I
can just use them uncapitalized in th bib or bbl file.
IIRC putting the complete title in extra {}'s in the bib would solve
this but is considered very very bad.
(4) In the APA-style, the entries in the reference list are supposed to
be double-spaced [c]. How can I achieve this? The command
\setupinterlinespace[big] inside \start...\stoptext does the job for the
normal text, but not for the referencelist.
[a] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 202, section 7.02
Books, Reference Books, and Book Chapters.
[b] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059359.html
[c] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 37, section 2.11
References.
I strongly hope that I can get answers to all of my points above, and
any hints and suggestions are appreciated.
Unfortunately I'm very unfamiliar with ConTeXt's mechanisms concerning
the reference list and I don't know where and how to fix these issues,
otherwise I would try to post patches instead...
Kind regards,
Stefan Müller.
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