Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Mikael Persson wrote:

 Hi all,

 when using the fourier font I get the wrong size of the opening { in
 the \startcases \stopcases environment. The following small example
 shows the problem and it fails both at my place and at
 http://live.contextgarden.net/

An easy workaround, use texnasi encoding :-)

\usetypescript[fourier][texnansi]

Maybe a bug somewhere, but math fonts are like a black box to me.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread Mikael Persson
Thanks, but if I try that, I dont get the fourier fonts at all, but
the lm ones (both home and at live.contextgarden.net).

Best regards, Micke P

On 8/30/07, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Mikael Persson wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  when using the fourier font I get the wrong size of the opening { in
  the \startcases \stopcases environment. The following small example
  shows the problem and it fails both at my place and at
  http://live.contextgarden.net/

 An easy workaround, use texnasi encoding :-)

 \usetypescript[fourier][texnansi]

 Maybe a bug somewhere, but math fonts are like a black box to me.

 Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread George N. White III
On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 when using the fourier font I get the wrong size of the opening { in
 the \startcases \stopcases environment. The following small example
 shows the problem and it fails both at my place and at
 http://live.contextgarden.net/

I wonder if this is the missing design size in lm fonts problem.   Using
ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.23 the sizes look OK for me.


 
 \usetypescript[fourier][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt]

 \starttext
 \startformula
 f(x)=
 \startcases
 \NC 1 \MC x0\NR
 \NC 0 \MC x0\NR
 \stopcases
 \stopformula
 \stoptext
 

 I run the minimal ConTeXt, from 8th of august:
 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.08 14:35 MKII  fmt: 2007.8.26  int: english/english

 Moreover, if I comment the first lines out above, the opening { is
 stretched correctly (in latin modern).

 Any ideas?

 Best regards, Micke P
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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread Mikael Persson
Update:

This seems to be a problem that is introduced after 20070403. I am
running that version at work (minimal installation on linux there
aswell), and there it looks OK with the fourier fonts.

Another problem is given by $\hat f$. In the older one it looks OK,
but in the newer the hat is placed wrongly. New minimal example that
shows both these problems:


\usetypescript[fourier][ec]
\setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt]

\starttext
\startformula
\hat f(x)=
\startcases
\NC 1 \MC x0\NR
\NC 0 \MC x0\NR
\stopcases
\stopformula
\stoptext


Any ideas? I don't want to switch back to ver 20070407 if it is not necessary...

/Micke P

On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 when using the fourier font I get the wrong size of the opening { in
 the \startcases \stopcases environment. The following small example
 shows the problem and it fails both at my place and at
 http://live.contextgarden.net/

 
 \usetypescript[fourier][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt]

 \starttext
 \startformula
 f(x)=
 \startcases
 \NC 1 \MC x0\NR
 \NC 0 \MC x0\NR
 \stopcases
 \stopformula
 \stoptext
 

 I run the minimal ConTeXt, from 8th of august:
 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.08 14:35 MKII  fmt: 2007.8.26  int: english/english

 Moreover, if I comment the first lines out above, the opening { is
 stretched correctly (in latin modern).

 Any ideas?

 Best regards, Micke P

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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread George N. White III
On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Update:

 This seems to be a problem that is introduced after 20070403. I am
 running that version at work (minimal installation on linux there
 aswell), and there it looks OK with the fourier fonts.

There have been some major changes in font handling.   It turned out that
the lm fonts didn't define a design size but apparently it didn't matter until
quite recently, and then more recently a workaround was added.  I wouldn't
be surprised to see the problem in other fonts either because they use lm
for some glyphs or because they were created using the same toolchain.

 Another problem is given by $\hat f$. In the older one it looks OK,
 but in the newer the hat is placed wrongly. New minimal example that
 shows both these problems:

 
 \usetypescript[fourier][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt]

 \starttext
 \startformula
 \hat f(x)=
 \startcases
 \NC 1 \MC x0\NR
 \NC 0 \MC x0\NR
 \stopcases
 \stopformula
 \stoptext
 

 Any ideas? I don't want to switch back to ver 20070407 if it is not 
 necessary...

I'd try the latest version first.  Normally I have my systems
configured with a separate
texmf-cont tree that I link to cont-tmf-date so I can very quickly
switch versions.


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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread Hans Hagen
George N. White III wrote:
 On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Update:

 This seems to be a problem that is introduced after 20070403. I am
 running that version at work (minimal installation on linux there
 aswell), and there it looks OK with the fourier fonts.
 
 There have been some major changes in font handling.   It turned out that
 the lm fonts didn't define a design size but apparently it didn't matter until
 quite recently, and then more recently a workaround was added.  I wouldn't
 be surprised to see the problem in other fonts either because they use lm
 for some glyphs or because they were created using the same toolchain.

indeed, the tex gyre fonts etc also suffer from this but in many cases 
they default to 10

the lm/gyre authors are notified and will sort it out

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Mikael Persson wrote:

 Thanks, but if I try that, I dont get the fourier fonts at all, but
 the lm ones (both home and at live.contextgarden.net).

Sorry, did not notice that using texnansi encoding with fourier 
switches to lm. Probably the result of a fallback.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread Mikael Persson
On 8/30/07, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 George N. White III wrote:
  On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Update:
 
  This seems to be a problem that is introduced after 20070403. I am
  running that version at work (minimal installation on linux there
  aswell), and there it looks OK with the fourier fonts.
 
  There have been some major changes in font handling.   It turned out that
  the lm fonts didn't define a design size but apparently it didn't matter 
  until
  quite recently, and then more recently a workaround was added.  I wouldn't
  be surprised to see the problem in other fonts either because they use lm
  for some glyphs or because they were created using the same toolchain.

 indeed, the tex gyre fonts etc also suffer from this but in many cases
 they default to 10

 the lm/gyre authors are notified and will sort it out

 Hans


Thanks for your replies. The lm/gyre authors does not take care of the
fourier fonts, right? What does this mean if one wants to use the
fourier fonts?

/Micke P
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