Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I wonder why you suggested the complicated solution one year before... I'll update http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style as soon as I get my other problems sorted out. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 30.04.2009 um 17:40 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I wonder why you suggested the complicated solution one year before... I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I wonder why you suggested the complicated solution one year before... I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). That one indeed (that was easy...), but the whole sectionworld stuff was yours, as documented in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style (see %start/stop WS; there \Titel is called \MyChapter) I still don't understand what the (additional?) problem was that you solved with that solution. Apparently we needed to tinker with the chapter counter. What part of your recent solutions wasn't possible one year before? \define[#] ? (At least I didn't know that one.) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 30.04.2009 um 20:33 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). That one indeed (that was easy...), but the whole sectionworld stuff was yours, as documented in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style (see %start/stop WS; there \Titel is called \MyChapter) I still don't understand what the (additional?) problem was that you solved with that solution. Apparently we needed to tinker with the chapter counter. why the counter (can't remember)? What part of your recent solutions wasn't possible one year before? \define[#] ? (At least I didn't know that one.) Nothing but you where looking for method to set the author and a subtitle and sectionworld was perfect suited for this with his key-val-syntax while your own \MyChapter changed everything because I could have used a different method than I needed for sectionworld. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some
betas before).
removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc.
Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year...
In 2008-08 Hans still wrote he wouldn't know if he would extend the
sectionworld in MkIV.
The discussion about \startsection ... \stopsection was in 2007!
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my
needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
\stopchapter
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter
for my needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use
own values for author, date etc. in titles (which was possible
in sectionworld)
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:24:01 +0200
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com scribit:
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter
for my needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use
own values for author, date etc. in titles (which was possible
in sectionworld)
Wolfgang
The \startchapter does not exist in my MinimalContex installation, but
I hope one can include it.
Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params
one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and
the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all).
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 14:35 schrieb R. Bastian: The \startchapter does not exist in my MinimalContex installation, but I hope one can include it. I dream from a world where people can whether they use MkII or MkIV and what's the date of their ConTeXt version. Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for
my needs.
\startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data]
is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use
own values for author, date etc. in titles (which was possible
in sectionworld)
key = value
with \structureuservalue{key}, unless it's broken -)
the info travels with the list data as well so eventually it will be
accessible everywhere
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow
\section hello world
to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be
replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions.
On 28/04/2009 19:53, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some
betas before).
removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-29 um 15:53 schrieb Mohamed Bana:
Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow
\section hello world
to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be
replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions.
Please don't mix your concern about structurals without braces into
this thread, would you please? Or is it the same topic?
I agree that it would be nice to know if commands disappear.
I try to understand here, how to redo my chapter setup that once
worked using sectionworld commands.
At the moment I get no output for the chapter title at all.
My input reads:
\Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle}
The output as chapter title should become like:
\vbox{
{\rm\tf Author\crlf}
{\ss\bfb Title\crlf}
{\ss\bf Subtitle}
}
In the table of contents I need:
Author: Title \hfill pagenumber
So, using \startchapter, I define \Titel like this:
\def\Titel#1#2#3{\startchapter[title={#2},bookmark={#2}]
[author={#1},subtitle={#3}]}
I guess, even \startchapter should obey to \setuphead[chapter]:
\setuphead[chapter][
header=high,
incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
page=yes, number=no,
align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant},
style=,]
Therefore I define (i.e. Wolfgang defined) \ChapterCommand like:
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle
\ChapterSubTitle}}
While \ChapterAuthor cum suis is defined in a setup.
Now, what's the replacement for:
\setupsectionworld[chapter][setups={chapter:list},author=]
I tried to adapt Wolfgang's code to Hans' sparse hints:
\unprotect
\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
\startsetups chapter:list
\doiftextelse{\structureuservalue{author}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\structureuservalue{author}:\space
\structurevalue{title}}{}}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\structurevalue{title}}{}}}
\def\ChapterAuthor{%
\doiftextelse%
{\structureuservalue{author}}%
{\rm\tf\structureuservalue{author}\crlf\vskip0.25em}
{}%
}
\def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfb\structurevalue{title}}}
\def\ChapterSubTitle{%
\doiftextelse%
{\structureuservalue{subtitle}}%
{\crlf\vskip0.2em\ss\bf\structureuservalue{subtitle}}%
{}%
}
\stopsetups
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle
\ChapterSubTitle}}
% why is/was this needed?
\let\ChapterAuthor\relax
\let\ChapterTitle\relax
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
\protect
(The original code is still in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style)
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:07:53 -0600 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu scribit: Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc and also to add examples for [optional user data]. rb ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. hmm. Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete. But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc and also to add examples for [optional user data]. hmm I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) , I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too, in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX . I suspect that TeX is not a cfl . Anyway, lpeg can make the thing easier -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit: May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. hmm. Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete. But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc and also to add examples for [optional user data]. hmm I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) , I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too, in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX . (chap.24-26 of the Texbook are embryos of a grammar, but they are not usable like the grammar of Pascal or Python) I suspect that TeX is not a cfl . Anyway, lpeg can make the thing easier -- luigi I think that something user-friendly could be do in a cooperative wiki (in the between, i found http://texshow.contextgarden.net/) beginning with CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT and so on. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200
luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit:
May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-)
than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form.
hmm.
Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete.
But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to
develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc
and also to add examples for [optional user data].
hmm
I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) ,
I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too,
in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX .
(chap.24-26 of the Texbook are embryos of a grammar, but they are not
usable
like the grammar of Pascal or Python)
I suspect that TeX is not a cfl .
Anyway,
lpeg can make the thing easier
--
luigi
I think that something user-friendly could be do in a cooperative wiki (in
the between, i found
http://texshow.contextgarden.net/) beginning with
CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE
TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT
and so on.
Consider that one can always make some dirty tricks in PREAMBLE to render
useless
\starttext
or \stoptext
To be general, i think
MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END
For example , let's try
$context test
where
test.tex ::=\end
or
test.tex ::=FOO\end
Are there any errors ? No
Is test.tex in {CONTEXT_SOURCE } ? No
Is test.tex in {MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE} Yes
so MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE includes CONTEXT_SOURCE
(of course
test.tex ::=\end\starttext\stoptext is also in {CONTEXT_SOURCE }
)
I think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of
standard-ConTeXt
or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt
ie a ConTeXt to use as reference
but can be a bit hard to define
--
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:07 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm I did not see the ne sectioning there... Anyway You're welcome to add missing command to cont-en.xml \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find it. strc-sec.tex start/stop commands are created with \definehead automatically ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] :-) of course not .. its; new -) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي
حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس
سماوي حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\setuphead[chapter][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he
is happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد:
ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of
[optional user data]
\setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand]
\define[2]\TitleCommand
{\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=middle]
#2\hairline
\structureuservalue{author}\hfill\structureuservalue{date}
\stopframedtext}
\starttext
\startchapter[title={How to make Idris happy?},reference={sec:happy}]
[author={Wolfgang Schuster},date=\currentdate]
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See \in{section}[sec:happy] at \at{page}[sec:happy].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Are you now happy?
Indeed I am :D
Best wishes
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is
happy.
See section 1 at page *11.1*.
I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number.
Vyatcheslav
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he
is happy.
See section 1 at page *11.1*.
I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number.
weird because i get this: See section 11 at page 1.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On 29 avr. 09, at 21:05, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces
It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he
is happy.
See section 1 at page *11.1*.
I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number.
weird because i get this: See section 11 at page 1.
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang,
Thanks for your nice example, but I too get See section 1 at page
11.1. with ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int:
english/english.
Can it be that like numbering footnotes, chapter, section and
pagenumberings are also broken?
Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:13 schrieb Otared Kavian: Thanks for your nice example, but I too get See section 1 at page 11.1. with ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english. MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.28 08:46 Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:11 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
I try to understand here, how to redo my chapter setup that once
worked using sectionworld commands.
At the moment I get no output for the chapter title at all.
My input reads:
\Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle}
You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command,
this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv.
\setuphead
[chapter]
[header=high,
incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
page=yes,
number=no,
align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant},
style=]
\setuphead
[title]
[command=,
style=\tfc]
\define\ChapterAuthor
{\doiftext{\theChapterAuthor}
{\rm\tf\theChapterAuthor\crlf\vskip0.25em}}
\define\ChapterTitle
{{\ss\bfb\theChapterTitle}}
\define\ChapterSubTitle
{\doiftext{\theChapterSubTitle}
{\crlf\vskip0.2em\ss\bf\theChapterSubTitle}}
\define[2]\ChapterCommand
{\doiftextelse{\theChapterAuthor}
{\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{}{\theChapterAuthor:
\theChapterTitle}}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{}{\theChapterTitle}}}%
\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle\ChapterSubTitle}}
\let\theChapterAuthor \relax
\let\theChapterTitle \relax
\let\theChapterSubTitle\relax
\define[3]\Titel
{\def\theChapterAuthor {#1}%
\def\theChapterTitle {#2}%
\def\theChapterSubTitle{#3}%
\chapter{}}
\starttext
\completecontent
\Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:00:07 +0200
luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200
luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com scribit:
May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-)
than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form.
hmm.
Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete.
But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it should be possible to
develop TEXT, NUMBER, DIMENSION, REFERENCE, etc
and also to add examples for [optional user data].
hmm
I'm not sure that ConTeXt == TeX (but it seems YES) ,
I'm nor sure that TeX is a context free language too,
in the sense that I never see a BNF grammar of TeX .
(chap.24-26 of the Texbook are embryos of a grammar, but they are not
usable
like the grammar of Pascal or Python)
I suspect that TeX is not a cfl .
Anyway,
lpeg can make the thing easier
--
luigi
I think that something user-friendly could be do in a cooperative wiki (in
the between, i found
http://texshow.contextgarden.net/) beginning with
CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= PREAMBLE \starttext TEXT \stoptext | CONTEXT_SOURCE
TEXT ::= STARTSTOPS | SETUPS | DEFINES | OTHERS [ TEXT
and so on.
Consider that one can always make some dirty tricks in PREAMBLE to render
useless
\starttext
or \stoptext
To be general, i think
MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE ::= MACRO* END
For example , let's try
$context test
where
test.tex ::=\end
or
test.tex ::=FOO\end
Are there any errors ? No
Is test.tex in {CONTEXT_SOURCE } ? No
Is test.tex in {MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE} Yes
so MY_CONTEXT_SOURCE includes CONTEXT_SOURCE
(of course
test.tex ::=\end\starttext\stoptext is also in {CONTEXT_SOURCE }
)
I dont understand the sense of \end\starttext (I am simply seeking a
layout system which works better than Latex).
I think that a bnf or lpeg grammar is really useful for a sort of
standard-ConTeXt
or minimal-ConTeXt or light-ConTeXt
ie a ConTeXt to use as reference
Exactly what I need : standard, minimal and light
but can be a bit hard to define
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[NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some
betas before).
Can I replace it with some other command?
Here is some code using sectionworlds, that Wolfgang wrote for me in
2008,
same as in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style
% with help from Wolfgang Schuster, 2008-04-15
% start WS
\unprotect
\resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}
\startsetups chapter:list
\def\\{{\nomarking{\unskip\nolist\crlf}}}
\doiftextelse{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
{\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
{\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}
\def\ChapterAuthor{%
\doiftextelse%
{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}%
{\rm\tf\sectionworldparameter\c!author\crlf\vskip0.25em}
{}%
}
\def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfb\sectionworldparameter\c!text}}
\def\ChapterSubTitle{%
\doiftextelse%
{\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}%
{\crlf\vskip0.2em\ss\bf\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}%
{}%
}
\stopsetups
\setupsectionworld
[chapter]
[setups={chapter:list},
author=]
\def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
{\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\ChapterTitle\ChapterSubTitle}}
\let\ChapterAuthor\relax
\let\ChapterTitle\relax
\let\ChapterSubTitle\relax
\protect
% stop WS
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?
Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some
betas before).
removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc.
Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year...
In 2008-08 Hans still wrote he wouldn't know if he would extend the
sectionworld in MkIV.
The discussion about \startsection ... \stopsection was in 2007!
I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for
my needs.
Could you give me a hint what to look for?
I couldn't find \startchapter in the garden, and \startsection leads to
\startsectionblockenvironment (strc-sbe.tex, core-sec.tex)
\startsectionworld (core-swd.tex, doesn't mention it's not for MkIV)
\startsection (m-cweb.tex)
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