Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Maurício wrote:
I need to write ' in a text. However,
(...) I really need it to be 5 times U0027,
not ' (U201C and U2018). (...)
(...)
Both also didn't work. (...)
Indeed, I am using mkiv... But you should be able to use \char etc. to get
the same effect.
pdftex is not working at the moment here -- see my message to the list --
so I can't test this at the moment, but in pdftex there is
\unicodecharacter{number} (...)
Another option is to use utf8 encoding and insert a zero-width space
(200B) between the 0027's. (...) should break the dbl-quote (...)
\unicodecharacter wasn't recognized. I do use uft8
encoding, and nothing else (ever). But the problem
is not to break the bls-quote, but avoiding '
transformed to '.
Thanks for your help. I'm probably going to try
something else, like writing this documentation on
a web page.
Cleaninng up my mailbox (so I'm not sure if you still need the answer) ...
Are you using pdfTeX or LuaTeX/XeTeX? In pdfTeX you need to switch the
font (or at least change the encoding to texnansi)
\usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[modern,10pt]
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\quotesingle} % or \char129
\stoptext
In new engines you can switch off tlig. If you need that, please ask
(but again - you need to be aware that you either need to create a new
font instance or switch off conversion into apostrophe globally).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
two solutions:
(1) use tt (since there trep is off)
{\tt '}
(2) reload the bodyfont
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[trep=no]
\setupbodyfont[reset]
This works only for MKIV.
The OP uses MKII, and his problem is, that MKII translates the ascii
character ' (0x27) to ’ (0xE2 0x80 0x99).
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Peter Münster wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
two solutions:
(1) use tt (since there trep is off)
{\tt '}
The OP uses MKII, and his problem is, that MKII translates the ascii
character ' (0x27) to ’ (0xE2 0x80 0x99).
That leaves just \tt as option, really. None of the 'normal' encodings
in mkii have a straight quote.
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Peter Münster wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
two solutions:
(1) use tt (since there trep is off)
{\tt '}
(2) reload the bodyfont
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[trep=no]
\setupbodyfont[reset]
This works only for MKIV.
The OP uses MKII, and his problem is, that MKII translates the ascii
character ' (0x27) to ’ (0xE2 0x80 0x99).
just enable regime utf (since you enter ’ as a utf sequence)
\enableregime[utf] \starttext \strut ' ’ \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: That leaves just \tt as option, really. None of the 'normal' encodings in mkii have a straight quote. texnansi does: grep quotesingle /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/enco- ans.tex \definecharacter quotesingle 129 Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: That leaves just \tt as option, really. None of the 'normal' encodings in mkii have a straight quote. texnansi does: grep quotesingle /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/enco- ans.tex \definecharacter quotesingle 129 Right you are! (and that reminds me to fix the encoding tables at the end of the new co-typography.pdf) \usetypescript [modern] [texnansi] \setupbodyfont[modern] \starttext \quotesingle \quotesingle \stoptext Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
I need to write ' in a text. However,
(...) I really need it to be 5 times U0027,
not ””’ (U201C and U2018). (...)
(...)
Both also didn't work. (...)
Indeed, I am using mkiv... But you should be able to use \char etc. to get
the same effect.
pdftex is not working at the moment here -- see my message to the list --
so I can't test this at the moment, but in pdftex there is
\unicodecharacter{number} (...)
Another option is to use utf8 encoding and insert a zero-width space
(200B) between the 0027's. (...) should break the dbl-quote (...)
\unicodecharacter wasn't recognized. I do use uft8
encoding, and nothing else (ever). But the problem
is not to break the bls-quote, but avoiding '
transformed to ’.
Thanks for your help. I'm probably going to try
something else, like writing this documentation on
a web page.
Best,
Maurício
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[NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Hi, I need to write ' in a text. However, since it's a special tag in wiki language, I really need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and U2018). How can I do that? Thanks, Maurício ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Maurício wrote: I need to write ' in a text. However, since it's a special tag in wiki language, I really need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and U2018). How can I do that? \starttext With 0-kern: '\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt' The easy way: \dorecurse5' \stoptext Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
I need to write ' in a text. However, since it's a special tag in wiki language, I really need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and U2018). How can I do that? \starttext With 0-kern: '\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt' The easy way: \dorecurse5' \stoptext Cheers, Peter Neither of them work. ' (Unicode 0027) is still converted to ’ (Unicode 2018). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Hi Maurício,
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:50:07 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
\starttext
With 0-kern: '\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'
The easy way: \dorecurse5'
\stoptext
Cheers, Peter
Neither of them work. ' (Unicode 0027) is still
converted to ’ (Unicode 2018).
\starttext
\dorecurse5'{}
% or \dorecurse{5}{'{}}
\stoptext
works here. I copied the text from the pdf into a unicode editor and it
gives 0027.
Best wishes
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:50:07 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I need to write ' in a text. However, since
it's a special tag in wiki language, I really
need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and
U2018). How can I do that?
\starttext
With 0-kern: '\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'\kern0pt'
The easy way: \dorecurse5'
\stoptext
Cheers, Peter
Neither of them work. ' (Unicode 0027) is still
converted to ’ (Unicode 2018).
Even better:
\starttext
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
'
\stoptext
Tested here.
Best wishes
Idris
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Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
I need to write ' in a text. However,
(...) I really need it to be 5 times U0027,
not ””’ (U201C and U2018). (...)
\starttext
\dorecurse5'{}
% or \dorecurse{5}{'{}}
\stoptext
Even better:
\starttext
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
'
\stoptext
Both also didn't work. Are you using Mark IV? I'm
using regular Context (the one that comes with
Ubuntu), maybe that's the difference.
Maurício
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي
حامد wrote:
\starttext
\dorecurse5'{}
% or \dorecurse{5}{'{}}
\stoptext
works here. I copied the text from the pdf into a unicode editor and
it
gives 0027.
It doesn't work here either. What does work is:
\def\fiver{\dorecurse5{\quotesingle}}
\fiver
but, for reasons I can't understand, not in Latin Modern...
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:12:04 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I need to write ' in a text. However,
(...) I really need it to be 5 times U0027,
not ””’ (U201C and U2018). (...)
\starttext
\dorecurse5'{}
% or \dorecurse{5}{'{}}
\stoptext
Even better:
\starttext
\defineactivecharacter ' {\otfchar{quoteright}}
'
\stoptext
Both also didn't work. Are you using Mark IV? I'm
using regular Context (the one that comes with
Ubuntu), maybe that's the difference.
Indeed, I am using mkiv... But you should be able to use \char etc. to get
the same effect.
pdftex is not working at the moment here -- see my message to the list --
so I can't test this at the moment, but in pdftex there is
\unicodecharacter{number}
so
\unicodecharacter{27}
should work.
Another option is to use utf8 encoding and insert a zero-width space
(200B) between the 0027's.
Finally: Did you try \dorecurse{5}{{'}}?
{'}{'} should break the dbl-quote just as {f}{i} breaks the fi ligature...
Best wishes
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
Maurício wrote:
Hi,
I need to write ' in a text. However, since
it's a special tag in wiki language, I really
need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and
U2018). How can I do that?
this is the result from the trep feature; ok, i can provide a switch to
turn it off (i might do that at some point for each feature, something
\disablefeature[name]) but not now
two solutions:
(1) use tt (since there trep is off)
{\tt '}
(2) reload the bodyfont
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[trep=no]
\setupbodyfont[reset]
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Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes
On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Maurício wrote: Both also didn't work. Are you using Mark IV? I'm using regular Context (the one that comes with Ubuntu), maybe that's the difference. Indeed! I just tried MKII, and this is the result: pdftotext test.pdf - | hexdump -C 31 0a 0a 57 69 74 68 20 30 2d 6b 65 72 6e 3a 20 |1..With 0-kern: | 0010 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 20 |... | 0020 54 68 65 20 65 61 73 79 20 77 61 79 3a 20 e2 80 |The easy way: ..| 0030 99 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 e2 80 99 0a 0a 0c || 0040 With MKIV you would get five 0x27. (But for the eye it's the same.) Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
