Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Just for the sake of completeness, in case someone else stumbles upon this
thread, it should be noted that \definefontfeature needs to be set before
\setupbodyfont, i.e.,
\definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][onum=yes]
\setupbodyfont[schola,11pt]
rather than:
\setupbodyfont[schola,11pt]
\definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][onum=yes]
I made the mistake of using the latter form in one of my tests and was
left wondering why things weren't working.
Regards.
On 11-11-30 04:19 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 um 20:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
Okay another anomaly: I used the example in the FAQs to try to set the feature
across the entire document, which is really what I want.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#How_can_I_get_the_.E2.80.9Coldstyle_numbers.E2.80.9D_.28text_figures.29_in_a_document.3F
In a manuscript length project, I wouldn't want to get {\os } for each local
instance. Now, what I have noticed was that the small caps switch, \sc, seems
to disable old-style numerals. Is this a typographic convention, i.e., that in
a run of small caps one should not revert to old-style numerals? Is there a
way of avoiding this assumption for a larger project? I sometimes have text
set in small caps that as part of a project ID would have some numbers in it.
In that case, I would like the old-style numerals to be used.
No, the answer is that smallcaps are activated with the “smcp” feature and this
is applied to the regular style with the “smallcaps” set. To get now old style
figures when you use smallcaps letters you need also this setup:
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][onum=yes]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Many thanks Wolfgang!
On 11-11-30 01:30 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 um 02:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
I enclose a minimal example as well as the output. It would seem that the \os
causes the m-dash to come out as three hyphens. Is this the expected behavior?
Write {\os 123…}, context use a special fontfeature set (with the name
“just-os”) for old style figure where where kerning, text ligatures etc. are
disabled.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Okay another anomaly: I used the example in the FAQs to try to set the feature
across the entire document, which is really what I want.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#How_can_I_get_the_.E2.80.9Coldstyle_numbers.E2.80.9D_.28text_figures.29_in_a_document.3F
In a manuscript length project, I wouldn't want to get {\os } for each local
instance. Now, what I have noticed was that the small caps switch, \sc, seems
to disable old-style numerals. Is this a typographic convention, i.e., that in
a run of small caps one should not revert to old-style numerals? Is there a way
of avoiding this assumption for a larger project? I sometimes have text set in
small caps that as part of a project ID would have some numbers in it. In that
case, I would like the old-style numerals to be used.
I again enclose a small example with output.
advTHANKSance.
On 11-11-30 01:30 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 um 02:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
I enclose a minimal example as well as the output. It would seem that the \os
causes the m-dash to come out as three hyphens. Is this the expected behavior?
Write {\os 123…}, context use a special fontfeature set (with the name
“just-os”) for old style figure where where kerning, text ligatures etc. are
disabled.
Wolfgang
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Waroc Fine Audio + Custom Home Cinema
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test.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
\definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes]
\setupbodyfont[schola]
\starttext
1234567890 A Pause---between yes and no.
{\sc 1234567890 A Pause---between yes and no.} 0987654321
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Hi Pavneet,
I do not know which font/kind of font you intend to use. So provided the font
is a otf-type the following works:
\setupbodyfont[times,rm,12pt]
\definefontfeature[oldstyle][sript=latin,onum=yes]
\starttext
\addff{oldstyle}
1234567890 A Pause---between yes and no.
1234567890 A Pause---between yes and no.
\stoptext
Willi
On 30 Nov 2011, at 20:19, Pavneet Arora wrote:
Okay another anomaly: I used the example in the FAQs to try to set the
feature across the entire document, which is really what I want.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#How_can_I_get_the_.E2.80.9Coldstyle_numbers.E2.80.9D_.28text_figures.29_in_a_document.3F
In a manuscript length project, I wouldn't want to get {\os } for each local
instance. Now, what I have noticed was that the small caps switch, \sc,
seems to disable old-style numerals. Is this a typographic convention, i.e.,
that in a run of small caps one should not revert to old-style numerals? Is
there a way of avoiding this assumption for a larger project? I sometimes
have text set in small caps that as part of a project ID would have some
numbers in it. In that case, I would like the old-style numerals to be used.
I again enclose a small example with output.
advTHANKSance.
On 11-11-30 01:30 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 um 02:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
I enclose a minimal example as well as the output. It would seem that the
\os causes the m-dash to come out as three hyphens. Is this the expected
behavior?
Write {\os 123…}, context use a special fontfeature set (with the name
“just-os”) for old style figure where where kerning, text ligatures etc. are
disabled.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Am 30.11.2011 um 20:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
Okay another anomaly: I used the example in the FAQs to try to set the
feature across the entire document, which is really what I want.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#How_can_I_get_the_.E2.80.9Coldstyle_numbers.E2.80.9D_.28text_figures.29_in_a_document.3F
In a manuscript length project, I wouldn't want to get {\os } for each local
instance. Now, what I have noticed was that the small caps switch, \sc,
seems to disable old-style numerals. Is this a typographic convention, i.e.,
that in a run of small caps one should not revert to old-style numerals? Is
there a way of avoiding this assumption for a larger project? I sometimes
have text set in small caps that as part of a project ID would have some
numbers in it. In that case, I would like the old-style numerals to be used.
No, the answer is that smallcaps are activated with the “smcp” feature and this
is applied to the regular style with the “smallcaps” set. To get now old style
figures when you use smallcaps letters you need also this setup:
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][onum=yes]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Works a charm, Wolfgang. Thanks again.
On 11-11-30 04:19 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 um 20:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
Okay another anomaly: I used the example in the FAQs to try to set the feature
across the entire document, which is really what I want.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#How_can_I_get_the_.E2.80.9Coldstyle_numbers.E2.80.9D_.28text_figures.29_in_a_document.3F
In a manuscript length project, I wouldn't want to get {\os } for each local
instance. Now, what I have noticed was that the small caps switch, \sc, seems
to disable old-style numerals. Is this a typographic convention, i.e., that in
a run of small caps one should not revert to old-style numerals? Is there a
way of avoiding this assumption for a larger project? I sometimes have text
set in small caps that as part of a project ID would have some numbers in it.
In that case, I would like the old-style numerals to be used.
No, the answer is that smallcaps are activated with the “smcp” feature and this
is applied to the regular style with the “smallcaps” set. To get now old style
figures when you use smallcaps letters you need also this setup:
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][onum=yes]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
On 30-11-2011 22:19, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 um 20:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
Okay another anomaly: I used the example in the FAQs to try to set the feature
across the entire document, which is really what I want.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#How_can_I_get_the_.E2.80.9Coldstyle_numbers.E2.80.9D_.28text_figures.29_in_a_document.3F
In a manuscript length project, I wouldn't want to get {\os } for each local
instance. Now, what I have noticed was that the small caps switch, \sc, seems
to disable old-style numerals. Is this a typographic convention, i..e., that
in a run of small caps one should not revert to old-style numerals? Is there a
way of avoiding this assumption for a larger project? I sometimes have text
set in small caps that as part of a project ID would have some numbers in it.
In that case, I would like the old-style numerals to be used.
No, the answer is that smallcaps are activated with the “smcp” feature and this
is applied to the regular style with the “smallcaps” set. To get now old style
figures when you use smallcaps letters you need also this setup:
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][onum=yes]
given that the smallcaps feature does not nil oldstyle (happens in some
fonts)
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[NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
I enclose a minimal example as well as the output. It would seem that the \os causes the m-dash to come out as three hyphens. Is this the expected behaviour? advTHANKSance. -- - - Pavneet Arora test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document \starttext 1234567890 A Pause---between yes and no. \os 1234567890 A Pause---between yes and no. \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Why does the oldstyle numerals switch, \os, also switch off m-dashes?
Am 30.11.2011 um 02:19 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
I enclose a minimal example as well as the output. It would seem that the
\os causes the m-dash to come out as three hyphens. Is this the expected
behavior?
Write {\os 123…}, context use a special fontfeature set (with the name
“just-os”) for old style figure where where kerning, text ligatures etc. are
disabled.
Wolfgang
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