[NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-17 Thread Lei Wang
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt > Right. Although there are many Chinese unicode fonts, Both unix and windows > remap them to GBK or GB when used. As for Japanese in ConTeXt, I think > it m

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-16 Thread Hans Hagen
At 16:22 15/06/2003 -0600, you wrote: For a detailed explanation, you should refer to the big book. But actually the rules are not all that difficult--probably a good deal simpler than European languages, I'd say. The most important thing to know is that there is a certain set of characters that m

RE: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-16 Thread Hans Hagen
At 06:37 16/06/2003 +0200, you wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: > you mix up two mechanisms: Yes, after studying the Chinese module for a while, I also came to the conclusion that I mixed up bad! :-) So instead of enjoying the nice weather during the weekend, I wrote some mapping files that will create s

RE: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-15 Thread Tim 't Hart
Hans Hagen wrote: > you mix up two mechanisms: Yes, after studying the Chinese module for a while, I also came to the conclusion that I mixed up bad! :-) So instead of enjoying the nice weather during the weekend, I wrote some mapping files that will create subfonts for EUC-JP encoding. Each sub

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-15 Thread Matt Gushee
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 11:03:06PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > A few questions; > > - How are the rules for breaking? For a detailed explanation, you should refer to the big book. But actually the rules are not all that difficult--probably a good deal simpler than European languages, I'd say. The

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-15 Thread Hans Hagen
At 13:48 08/06/2003 +0200, Tim 't Hart wrote: Then I decided to try ConTeXt's UTF-8 support. I created the following test file: . you mix up two mechanisms: (1) the one used for chinese is not utf but an installable multi glyph mechanism, where the first glyph triggers a font and the second

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-10 Thread Matthew Huggett
Hans, please tell me what I can do to help implementing Japanese support in ConText, or what more information you need to get a better overview of things that need to be done. I don't know much about ConTeXt yet, but I'll promise to do my best. My best, Tim If you need any help with documentat

RE: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-10 Thread Tim 't Hart
Hello Hans, You wrote: >one of the first things to do is to collect fonts in suitable encodings and >post them somewhere (or at least post scripts that generate them) And > for that i need to have samples and fonts, I created a simple home page that will tell you where you can find some good

RE: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-10 Thread Tim 't Hart
Hello Hans and Matt, > >Can PDFTeX handle TTC files? I know ttf2afm/ttf2pk can process them, but > >I have tried 2 or 3 times to include a Japanese TTC font directly in a > >PDFTeX document, but was never able to make it work. > > dunno, maybe dvipdfmx can I don't think PDFTeX can use TTC fonts.

RE: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-10 Thread Hans Hagen
At 18:33 09/06/2003 +0200, Tim 't Hart wrote: When I look at the source of the Chinese module, the most difficult part for me to understand is the part about font encoding, the enco-chi.tex file, and the use of \defineuclass in that file. I guess it has to do something with mapping the written tex

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-10 Thread Hans Hagen
At 17:24 09/06/2003 -0600, Matt Gushee wrote: > Typesetting Japanese could be more complicated than Chinese because of > the concurrent use of four writing systems: dunno, could also be a challenge; as long as tagging is done properly i see no real problem there On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:33:49P

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-10 Thread Matthew Huggett
Matt Gushee wrote: What would a good sample consist of? I can probably find something. Well, for starters I guess samples showing the interaction of the four writing scripts (I'm thinking of glyph spacing and line-breaking here; e.g., in the transition from native script to Romaji and back a

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-09 Thread Matt Gushee
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 11:16:27PM +0900, Matthew Huggett wrote: > > >Recently, I've made the 'unwise' decision to start studying Japanese next > >year, Unwise? Only if you don't really want to do it, or if you are laboring under illusions--left over from the 80s--that it will guarantee you a luc

RE: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-09 Thread Tim 't Hart
Matthew Huggett wrote: > I asked about Japanese a while back. Hans requested more information on > encodings, fonts, etc. I don't know enough about these things or > ConTeXt to know what is needed exactly. > From what I've read, unicode is not that popular in Japan itself. ... Unicode wasn'

Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-09 Thread Matthew Huggett
Tim 't Hart wrote: Recently, I've made the 'unwise' decision to start studying Japanese next year, and of course I want to keep on using ConTeXt to write my school papers. [] So I decided to find a way to write Japanese in ConTeXt. First I tried using the eOmega/ConTeXt combination since I hav

[NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt

2003-06-08 Thread Tim 't Hart
Hello all, This is my first message to the list. I've been using ConTeXt for a few months now, and so far it does everything I want to do with it, plus much and much more! Recently, I've made the 'unwise' decision to start studying Japanese next year, and of course I want to keep on using ConTeXt