Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-15 Thread Uwe Koloska
Hello Wolfgang,

Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  MtxRun | main context
  file:
  /home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.
 tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55
 
  but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the
  tfm-files missing.

 What's with mtxrun --script context delicious and texexec --lua
 delicious, messages for tfm files should come with pdfTeX.

Maybe a simple misunderstanding: 'texexec --lua' works fine, but 'context' 
(the application) gives the missing tfm error.  This is because the standard 
runtime called by the application 'context' is pdftex and not luatex, isn't 
it?

Uwe
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Uwe Koloska wrote:

 Hello Wolfgang,

 Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MtxRun | main context
 file:
 /home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.
 tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55

 but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the
 tfm-files missing.

 What's with mtxrun --script context delicious and texexec --lua
 delicious, messages for tfm files should come with pdfTeX.

 Maybe a simple misunderstanding: 'texexec --lua' works fine, but 'context'
 (the application) gives the missing tfm error.  This is because the standard
 runtime called by the application 'context' is pdftex and not luatex, isn't
 it?

No, 'context' always runs luatex, and not pdftex.

The script 'context' calls 'mtxrun --script context' which in turn calls 
'mtx-context.lua' which does all the work. mtx-context.lua is run by the 
lua interpreter inside luatex, and always runs in mkiv mode. You should be 
able to check this by looking at the top few lines of the log file.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:18:43 -0400 (EDT)
Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Uwe Koloska wrote:
 
  Hello Wolfgang,
 
  Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
  On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  MtxRun | main context
  file:
  /home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.
  tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55
 
  but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the
  tfm-files missing.
 
  What's with mtxrun --script context delicious and texexec --lua
  delicious, messages for tfm files should come with pdfTeX.
 
  Maybe a simple misunderstanding: 'texexec --lua' works fine, but 'context'
  (the application) gives the missing tfm error.  This is because the standard
  runtime called by the application 'context' is pdftex and not luatex, isn't
  it?
 
 No, 'context' always runs luatex, and not pdftex.
 
 The script 'context' calls 'mtxrun --script context' which in turn calls 
 'mtx-context.lua' which does all the work. mtx-context.lua is run by the 
 lua interpreter inside luatex, and always runs in mkiv mode. You should be 
 able to check this by looking at the top few lines of the log file.

It's possible he defined a script by himself for ConTeXt which use
pdfTeX, in this case he should replace them with ones delivered with
the distribution, he can find them in
$TEXMF/scripts/context/stubs/(unix|mswin)/

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Uwe Koloska wrote:
 Hello Wolfgang,
 
 Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MtxRun | main context
 file:
 /home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.
 tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55

 but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the
 tfm-files missing.
 What's with mtxrun --script context delicious and texexec --lua
 delicious, messages for tfm files should come with pdfTeX.
 
 Maybe a simple misunderstanding: 'texexec --lua' works fine, but 'context' 
 (the application) gives the missing tfm error.  This is because the standard 
 runtime called by the application 'context' is pdftex and not luatex, isn't 
 it?

context (mtx-context) currently only handles luatex (i may add support 
for pdftex/xetex so that we can replace th eruby scripts, but it has a 
low priority)


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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Wolfgang,

 mmmh, very curious.  Today I wasn't able to reproduce the problems I have had
 yesterday ...
 Everything works exactly as you said with no changes to your files.

 So I revoke and argue the converse.

 Am Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 I tested it now on my own system and it worked for me.

 ConTeXt:

 MtxRun | main context file:
 C:/tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex
 MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.07 23:44

 context --version
 MtxRun | main context
 file: 
 /home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
 MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55

 but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the
 tfm-files missing.

What's with mtxrun --script context delicious and texexec --lua delicious,
messages for tfm files should come with pdfTeX.

 LuaTeX:

 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008060811
 ...
 This is build 1309, created on 20080608T112701Z

 luatex --version
 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008052302
 ...
 This is build 0, created on 20080410T143312Z
 Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15
 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
 Compiled with xpdf version 3.01

 XeTeX:

 XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

 xetex --version
 XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.998.5-dev (Web2C 7.5.6)

  1. The interface for the \definefontsynonym command seems to have
  changed: There is no third parameter -- this one [features=default] end
  up in the document as text.

 Makes no sense because you need the third parameter to define smallcaps
 if you don't have a seperate font but select it as OpenType feature.
 Kerning, ligatures etc. are enabled with the features parameter too.

 No idea, what was wrong ...
 The third parameter was included as normal text in the resulting pdf.

  2. To load the typescript, the command is not \usetypefile  [delicious]
  but \usetypescriptfile  [type-delicious]

 Why did it not work for you, do you get a error message or is the file
 not loaded,
 give us more information, ConTeXt version, LuaTeX version, log files ...

 I've got an error that the command doesn't matches it's definition.
 This works today without problems, too ...

 I'm on linux and have installed the context minimal with the help of
 first-setup.sh on 2008-06-07.

 So, thank you for your help!
 The next time I get any curious result, I will save the logfiles ;-)

 Uwe

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-11 Thread Uwe Koloska
Hello Wolfgang,

mmmh, very curious.  Today I wasn't able to reproduce the problems I have had 
yesterday ...
Everything works exactly as you said with no changes to your files.

So I revoke and argue the converse.

Am Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 I tested it now on my own system and it worked for me.

 ConTeXT:

 MtxRun | main context file:
 C:/tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex
 MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.07 23:44

 context --version
MtxRun | main context 
file: 
/home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55

but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the 
tfm-files missing.

 LuaTeX:

 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008060811
 ...
 This is build 1309, created on 20080608T112701Z

 luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008052302
...
This is build 0, created on 20080410T143312Z
Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
Compiled with xpdf version 3.01

 XeTeX:

 XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

 xetex --version
XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.998.5-dev (Web2C 7.5.6)

  1. The interface for the \definefontsynonym command seems to have
  changed: There is no third parameter -- this one [features=default] end
  up in the document as text.

 Makes no sense because you need the third parameter to define smallcaps
 if you don't have a seperate font but select it as OpenType feature.
 Kerning, ligatures etc. are enabled with the features parameter too.

No idea, what was wrong ...
The third parameter was included as normal text in the resulting pdf.

  2. To load the typescript, the command is not \usetypefile  [delicious]
  but \usetypescriptfile  [type-delicious]

 Why did it not work for you, do you get a error message or is the file
 not loaded,
 give us more information, ConTeXt version, LuaTeX version, log files ...

I've got an error that the command doesn't matches it's definition.
This works today without problems, too ...

I'm on linux and have installed the context minimal with the help of 
first-setup.sh on 2008-06-07.

So, thank you for your help!
The next time I get any curious result, I will save the logfiles ;-)

Uwe
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hello Uwe,

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Wolfgang, hello list,

 thank you for the help!

 Unfortunately the code doesn't work flawlessly with the current minimal
 context distribution.  So for the archive, here are the corrected files and a
 short usage description:


 The typescript that defines the context bindings for the delicious font from
  http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html

 --- type-delicious.-
 \starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
   \setups[font:fallback:sans]
   \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [Delicious-Regular]
   \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic]
   \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [Delicious-Bold]
   \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
   \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]   [Delicious-Caps]
 \stoptypescript

 \starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
   \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular][name:Delicious-Roman]
   \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic]
   \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]   [name:Delicious-Bold]
   \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
   \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]   [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
 \stoptypescript

 \starttypescript [delicious]
   \definetypeface [delicious] [ss] [sans] [delicious] [default]
 \stoptypescript
 

 Now the testfile:
 --- delicious-test.tex -
 \usetypescriptfile  [type-delicious]
 \usetypescript[delicious]
 \setupbodyfont[delicious]

 \starttext

 My document with the delicious fonts.

 \input knuth

 \stoptext
 

 Now save these two file together with the otf-files from the delicious
 download in a directory and call the luatex version of context with this
 command:
  texexec --lua delicious-test.tex


 What did I change?

 1. The interface for the \definefontsynonym command seems to have changed:
 There is no third parameter -- this one [features=default] end up in the
 document as text.

I will test it today evening and can give you tommorow an answer but what you
say makes no sense, there was always a third parameter for \definefontsynonym
and Hans use it too in type-otf.tex.

 2. To load the typescript, the command is not \usetypefile  [delicious]
 but \usetypescriptfile  [type-delicious]

Both commands are equivalent, I used always the short form in my documents
since a few months and got never any problem with it.

 Have fun!
 Uwe

Greetings
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the wonderful
 delicious font with context?

I used it myself for the examples in my letter manual.

  http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html

 It's available in opentype format.

\starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [Delicious-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [Delicious-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]   [Delicious-Caps]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular][name:Delicious-Roman]
 [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic]
 [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]   [name:Delicious-Bold]
 [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic]
[name:Delicious-BoldItalic] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]   [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
 [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [delicious]
  \definetypeface [delicious] [ss] [sans] [delicious] [default]
\stoptypescript

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-09 Thread Uwe Koloska
Hello,

Am Montag, 9. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the
  wonderful delicious font with context?

 I used it myself for the examples in my letter manual.

Ah - Thank you!

But what is necessary to let it be known to context?
(process with texfont, etc.)

And where can I find the letter manual?  The letter-doc.pdf seems not to 
include any examples nor the delicious fonts ...

Uwe

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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Uwe Koloska
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Am Montag, 9. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the
  wonderful delicious font with context?

 I used it myself for the examples in my letter manual.

 Ah - Thank you!

 But what is necessary to let it be known to context?
 (process with texfont, etc.)

Save the typescripts in a file with the name type-delicious.tex and use it
in your document with:

\usetypefile  [delicious]
\usetypescript[delicious]
\setupbodyfont[delicious]

\starttext

My document with the delicious fonts.

\stoptext


You could put the fonts in the font directory of your OS or in a folder
in your TeX tree, to let LuaTeX or XeTeX know about your fonts call
luatools --generate or context --generate for LuaTeX and
fc-cache -v -r (not sure about the parameters) for XeTeX.

To get a PDF file save my example in a file with the name delicious.tex
(or whatever you want) and process it either with texexec --lua delicious
or context delicious (faster than the texexec call) for LuaTeX and
texexec --xtx delicious for XeTeX.

 And where can I find the letter manual?  The letter-doc.pdf seems not to
 include any examples nor the delicious fonts ...

http://wolfgang.schuster.googlepages.com/letter - Manual

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?

2008-06-08 Thread Uwe Koloska
Hello,

does someone have a typescript (or what's now needed) for using the wonderful 
delicious font with context?
  http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html

It's available in opentype format.

Thank you
Uwe Koloska
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