Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Most articles will be shorter than 2m anyway, I hope. If not, smaller
font size is surely one of the possibilities, but I'll worry about
that later (I don't doubt that I'll be bitten by enough ConTeXt bugs
before that will happen).
do you mean real bugs or misuse of features stretched beyond their
intended usage ...
in a next release i will implement \doifuserelse{mojca} {ignore feature}
{carry on} -)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
On 7/19/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Most articles will be shorter than 2m anyway, I hope. If not, smaller
font size is surely one of the possibilities, but I'll worry about
that later (I don't doubt that I'll be bitten by enough ConTeXt bugs
before that will happen).
do you mean real bugs or misuse of features stretched beyond their
intended usage ...
in a next release i will implement \doifuserelse{mojca} {ignore feature}
{carry on} -)
No problem. If my name won't be misspelled (as in some ConTeXt sources
:) I can still add the following to the cont-usr.tex ;)
\let\reverseuser=\doifuserelse
\def\doifuserelse#1#2#3{\reverseuser{#1}{#3}{#2}}
Mojca
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[NTG-context] infinite paper height
Hello, Is there any way to create infinite paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.) \setuplayout [width=8cm] \definepapersize [infinite] [width=12cm, height=100cm] \setuppapersize [infinite] [infinite] Thank you, Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
I think that's not possible because of TeX. TeX limits any dimension to 2^30 scaled points (~5.75 m). But that's only the TeX part. I don't know if dvi drivers can combine several TeX pages in one printer page infinitely. Possibly any of the PostScript tools? Ricard ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Hi Mojca, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way to create infinite paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.) this is almost an faq :) Perhaps the mailinglist archive can help you. Look for the terms 'pervert' and 'idiot' on the archive (no joke!). Perhaps this helps you!? http://archive.contextgarden.net/search/[EMAIL PROTECTED],idiot.en.html Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Ricard Roca wrote:
I think that's not possible because of TeX. TeX limits any dimension to 2^30
scaled points (~5.75 m).
I just realized you can cheat just a little:
\hsize=575cm
\advance \hsize \hsize
interesting indeed because normally tex checks for overflows when
calculating
\message{\the\hsize} % reports 32720.66928pt ~ 11.5m
A nice one for Pavel's new 'TeX surprises' in eurobachotex
next year.
actually, one can put stuff in a vbox till tex's mem overflows, and even split
off pieces, as long as one does not calculate using the dimensions of a box;
tex's overflow check only happens when doing explicit calculations
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Hans Hagen wrote: \starttext \startTEXpage your 4 meter poem \stopTEXpage \stoptext doh! ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Thank you, Ricard and Taco, On 7/18/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello, Is there any way to create infinite paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can Automatically cropping it back to the right size, you mean ? No, but that would be a neat feature. :-) still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.) The maximum paper height TeX can handle is approx 575cm, btw. 5m is inifinite enough for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit. It would be nice if the paper size could be adjusted automatically (that's what I meant with infinite) to the length of the article, but if that would require too much effort, it would probably be easier if I crop the page after processing it with ConTeXt. Thanks, Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello, Is there any way to create infinite paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can Automatically cropping it back to the right size, you mean ? No, but that would be a neat feature. :-) still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.) The maximum paper height TeX can handle is approx 575cm, btw. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
On 7/18/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
Is there any way to create infinite paper size: such a paper that
all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can
still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution
is available.)
\setuplayout
[width=8cm]
\definepapersize
[infinite]
[width=12cm,
height=100cm]
\setuppapersize
[infinite]
[infinite]
\starttext
\startTEXpage
your 4 meter poem
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
Thank you, that's great! I knew about TEXpage, but never
thought/forgot about such a misuse.
Except for one little (buggy?) detail:
\setuplayout
[width=8.55cm,
topspace=0cm,
backspace=0cm,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt,
height=fit,
]
\definepapersize
[infinite]
[width=8.55cm,
height=60cm]
\starttext
\startTEXpage
\section{bla}
\input tufte
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
section is too low and consequently the last (few) line(s) are cropped.
The example on http://pub.mojca.org/presek/articles.tex also has the
last page wider than the first two.
Mojca
PS: this last request has nothing to do with the problem above, but I
have a little request if anyone is willing to help me. I need the file
mentioned above (http://pub.mojca.org/presek/article2.tex) to be
typeset in lucida (only to show it to the editor; they'll almost
certainly buy the font, but I need the example faster than I can ask
them to buy the font and figure out how to use it; they gave me 19 pfb
files, but they're dating back to 1990 and it seems to me that there
are not enough files anyway). Is anyone willing to compile the file
above with lucida font and send me the resulting PDF? I would be very
grateful for that.
The last page has a little problem with accents and everything is
shifted down, but I don't mind if they are a bit wrong this time since
it's only an example.
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Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Mojca Miklavec wrote: 5m is inifinite enough for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit. FWIW, Acrobat 6 and earlier had severe problems with document dimensions over 200cm, so keep that in mind for compatibility. It would be nice if the paper size could be adjusted automatically (that's what I meant with infinite) to the length of the article, but if that would require too much effort, it would probably be easier if I crop the page after processing it with ConTeXt. Yes. See Hans's reply with \startTEXpage . Very handy command, that. :) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
On 7/18/06, Adam Lindsay wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: 5m is inifinite enough for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit. FWIW, Acrobat 6 and earlier had severe problems with document dimensions over 200cm, so keep that in mind for compatibility. That's not my problem any more. They asked me to prepare long continuous text with TeX (so that formulae and everything else will be OK) - they intend to use the resulting PDF to design a magazine in InDesign after that (I don't know how they're going to do that, but I assume that InDesign should be able to handle that - if not, I'll think about that after the problems arise). Yes. See Hans's reply with \startTEXpage . Very handy command, that. :) He replied faster than I noted ;) Yes, \startTEXpage it's *the* solution that I wanted, only the vertical shifting after \subject has to be fixed somehow. Thanks, Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
2006/7/18, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DVI maybe, but my Acrobat Reader 7 silently drops the bottom off pages that are higher than 200in (508cm). This is an implementation limit of AR7: 200inx200in. This can be overcome by using UserUnit in PDF 1.6: Then you can have up to 15.000.000inx15.000.000in . Best Martin ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
� wrote: 2006/7/18, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DVI maybe, but my Acrobat Reader 7 silently drops the bottom off pages that are higher than 200in (508cm). This is an implementation limit of AR7: 200inx200in. This can be overcome by using UserUnit in PDF 1.6: Then you can have up to 15.000.000inx15.000.000in . so we need an extension in pdftex ... \pdfuserunit Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hi Mojca, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way to create infinite paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.) this is almost an faq :) Perhaps the mailinglist archive can help you. Look for the terms 'pervert' and 'idiot' on the archive (no joke!). Perhaps this helps you!? http://archive.contextgarden.net/search/[EMAIL PROTECTED],idiot.en.html ha, my memory fails me, interesting historic bits and pieces Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 7/18/06, Adam Lindsay wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: 5m is inifinite enough for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit. FWIW, Acrobat 6 and earlier had severe problems with document dimensions over 200cm, so keep that in mind for compatibility. That's not my problem any more. They asked me to prepare long continuous text with TeX (so that formulae and everything else will be OK) - they intend to use the resulting PDF to design a magazine in InDesign after that (I don't know how they're going to do that, but I assume that InDesign should be able to handle that - if not, I'll think about that after the problems arise). so why not use a small font; if it's cut and pasted in indesign then they can also scale Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] infinite paper height
On 7/19/06, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 7/18/06, Adam Lindsay wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: 5m is inifinite enough for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit. FWIW, Acrobat 6 and earlier had severe problems with document dimensions over 200cm, so keep that in mind for compatibility. That's not my problem any more. They asked me to prepare long continuous text with TeX (so that formulae and everything else will be OK) - they intend to use the resulting PDF to design a magazine in InDesign after that (I don't know how they're going to do that, but I assume that InDesign should be able to handle that - if not, I'll think about that after the problems arise). so why not use a small font; if it's cut and pasted in indesign then they can also scale Most articles will be shorter than 2m anyway, I hope. If not, smaller font size is surely one of the possibilities, but I'll worry about that later (I don't doubt that I'll be bitten by enough ConTeXt bugs before that will happen). Thanks for the tip, Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
