Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater


luigi scarso wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very
 unlikely that i'll ever make it generic
 ok , but this also doesn't work
  \pdfoutput=1
  \setmplibformat{plain}
  \mplibcode
beginfig(1) ;
draw fullcircle
scaled 10cm
withcolor red
withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));

There is no btex .. etex in mplib, at all.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:


 luigi scarso wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very
 unlikely that i'll ever make it generic
 ok , but this also doesn't work
  \pdfoutput=1
  \setmplibformat{plain}
  \mplibcode
    beginfig(1) ;
        draw fullcircle
            scaled 10cm
            withcolor red
            withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
        label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));


 There is no btex .. etex in mplib, at all.

So there are no others way to put a text in a btex ...etex fashion ?

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater


luigi scarso wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:

 luigi scarso wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very
 unlikely that i'll ever make it generic
 ok , but this also doesn't work
  \pdfoutput=1
  \setmplibformat{plain}
  \mplibcode
beginfig(1) ;
draw fullcircle
scaled 10cm
withcolor red
withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));
 
 There is no btex .. etex in mplib, at all.

 So there are no others way to put a text in a btex ...etex fashion ?

Not without macro/lua support, no. context mkiv does support these
things, but Hans is (understandably) unwilling to write code to
deal with the fairly unpredictable font setup of the luatex-plain
environment.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:


 luigi scarso wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:

 luigi scarso wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very
 unlikely that i'll ever make it generic
 ok , but this also doesn't work
  \pdfoutput=1
  \setmplibformat{plain}
  \mplibcode
    beginfig(1) ;
        draw fullcircle
            scaled 10cm
            withcolor red
            withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
        label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));

 There is no btex .. etex in mplib, at all.

 So there are no others way to put a text in a btex ...etex fashion ?

 Not without macro/lua support, no. context mkiv does support these
 things, but Hans is (understandably) unwilling to write code to
 deal with the fairly unpredictable font setup of the luatex-plain
 environment.
OK -- I understand this.
Any plan to implement btex...etex in mplib ?


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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread Hans Hagen

luigi scarso wrote:

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:


luigi scarso wrote:

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very
unlikely that i'll ever make it generic

ok , but this also doesn't work
 \pdfoutput=1
 \setmplibformat{plain}
 \mplibcode
   beginfig(1) ;
   draw fullcircle
   scaled 10cm
   withcolor red
   withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
   label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));



There is no btex .. etex in mplib, at all.


So there are no others way to put a text in a btex ...etex fashion ?


well, you can set up some kind of mechanism that eventually produces a 
picture that mp can handle, or roll out your own code


anyhow, i see not much reason for spending time on that kind of support 
for plain as i have no use for it


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater


luigi scarso wrote:
 OK -- I understand this.
 Any plan to implement btex...etex in mplib ?

Not btex ... etex, no.

Maybe something new will appear in the long run, maybe not.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread luigi scarso
 luigi scarso wrote:
 OK -- I understand this.
 Any plan to implement btex...etex in mplib ?

 Not btex ... etex, no.

 Maybe something new will appear in the long run, maybe not.

 Best wishes,
 Taco

well, you can set up some kind of mechanism
that eventually produces a picture that mp can handle, or roll out your own 
code
anyhow, i see not much reason for spending
time on that kind of support for plain as i have no use for it

Hans


OK.

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-26 Thread Dohyun Kim
2009/10/26 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com:
 luigi scarso wrote:
 OK -- I understand this.
 Any plan to implement btex...etex in mplib ?

 Not btex ... etex, no.

 Maybe something new will appear in the long run, maybe not.

 Best wishes,
 Taco

well, you can set up some kind of mechanism
that eventually produces a picture that mp can handle, or roll out your own 
code
anyhow, i see not much reason for spending
time on that kind of support for plain as i have no use for it

Hans


 OK.

Well... I have implemented btex .. etex feature
upon Hans  Taco's luatex-mplib.* files
mostly by mimicking the implementation in context.

Please visit
http://cvs.ktug.or.kr/viewcvs/ko.TeX/luatexko/luatexplainko-mplib.tex
http://cvs.ktug.or.kr/viewcvs/ko.TeX/luatexko/luatexplainko-mplib.lua

Best,
-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-25 Thread Hans Hagen

luigi scarso wrote:

I'm experimenting with
luatex-plain in minimals, cfr.



label(textext(Foo),(0bp,0bp));


textext is a mkiv feature

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-25 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 luigi scarso wrote:

 I'm experimenting with
 luatex-plain in minimals, cfr.

        label(textext(Foo),(0bp,0bp));

 textext is a mkiv feature
not a metafun macro ?

Anyway, this also doesn't work
%luatex-test-wrong.tex
\pdfoutput=1
\setmplibformat{metafun}
\mplibcode
   beginfig(1) ;
   draw fullcircle
   scaled 10cm
   withcolor red
   withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
   label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));
   endfig ;
\endmplibcode
\end
-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-25 Thread Hans Hagen

luigi scarso wrote:

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

luigi scarso wrote:

I'm experimenting with
luatex-plain in minimals, cfr.
   label(textext(Foo),(0bp,0bp));

textext is a mkiv feature

not a metafun macro ?

Anyway, this also doesn't work
%luatex-test-wrong.tex
\pdfoutput=1
\setmplibformat{metafun}
\mplibcode
   beginfig(1) ;
   draw fullcircle
   scaled 10cm
   withcolor red
   withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
   label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));
   endfig ;
\endmplibcode
\end


forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very 
unlikely that i'll ever make it generic


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-plain metapost

2009-10-25 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 forget about metafun in plain ... it cooperates with mkiv and it's very
 unlikely that i'll ever make it generic
ok , but this also doesn't work
 \pdfoutput=1
 \setmplibformat{plain}
 \mplibcode
   beginfig(1) ;
   draw fullcircle
   scaled 10cm
   withcolor red
   withpen pencircle xscaled 4mm yscaled 2mm rotated 30 ;
   label(btex Foo etex,(0bp,0bp));
   endfig ;
 \endmplibcode
 \end

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