Re: [NTG-context] mailing list behaviour (was: Spurious newlines at beginning of startstop pair)

2019-11-29 Thread Marco Patzer
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:10:46 +0100
Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

> The problem seems to be that traditional mailing lists like this just
> don’t work with modern security standards.
> 
> I didn’t check how secure NTG’s mail server is configured, but
> changing subject and sender of every message is regarded harmful. Not
> doing that would mean that: 
> * I can’t filter mails (visually or rule based) by subject any more.

Sorting can easily be done using other headers , e.g. “List-Id”.

> * A lot of replies would only go to the sender.

Very true.

> * The connection of threads would get lost.

Why? Threads are arranged by the “References” and “In-Reply-To”
headers which are not modified.

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] mailing list behaviour (was: Spurious newlines at beginning of startstop pair)

2019-11-29 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 2019-11-29 um 11:05 schrieb Denis Maier :
> 
> Am 29.11.2019 um 10:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> Second: For some reasons I have not received your message. It wasn't in the 
>> Spam folder and I usually receive mails from the list. Any ideas? Are there 
>> some known problems?
>> 
>> Your mailbox host does some strange address checking (we run a mail server 
>> here and then go to the provider and it checks the internal server with a 
>> local address) ... there are some more on this list that bounce that way, 
>> like gmx, and i';ve given up bothering about it.
>>  hans
> 
> Ok, what do you suggest? Change to a different mailserver for the list? Which 
> hosts aren't prone to this problem? Or is there something I can change on my 
> side?

The problem seems to be that traditional mailing lists like this just don’t 
work with modern security standards.

I didn’t check how secure NTG’s mail server is configured, but changing subject 
and sender of every message is regarded harmful.
Not doing that would mean that: 
* I can’t filter mails (visually or rule based) by subject any more.
* A lot of replies would only go to the sender.
* The connection of threads would get lost.
(I see all of these on other lists.)

So, using an address from a more tolerant (and maybe less secure) provider for 
lists like this would make sense.


Greetlings, Hraban
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