Re: [NTG-context] old style nums
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:40:33 -0700
"Idris Samawi Hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:37:08 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> You also have to define "oldstyle" :-)
> >
> > No, you don't have to, because oldstyle is predefined in type-ini.tex,
> > two other predefined fontfeatures are "default" and "smallcaps" :-)
>
> Did you try it? worketh not ;-)
It did work for me but I got a error message for the next line,
error: ...2tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:2018:
attempt to index field 'description' (a nil value)
.
l.12
?
My testfile:
01 % engine=luatex
02
03 \definefontfeature
04 [oldstyle]
05 [liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,onum=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
06
07 \setfontfeature{oldstyle}
08
09 \starttext
10
11 123456789
12
13 \stoptext
I could set "tlig=no" and the error message vanishes.
> >> ==
> % engine=luatex
>
> \setfontfeature{oldstyle}
>
> \starttext
>
> test
>
> 1234567890
>
> \stoptext
> >> PS Note that tnum (tabular version) looks better than onum alone, but
> >> is a
> >> function of onum in the font so cannot be invoked unless onum is invoked
> >> first.
>
> > \definefontfeature[tnum][tnum=yes,onum=yes]
>
> Hmm, I assumed the order would be [onum=yes,tnum=yes], or does the order
> not matter?
I think not in this case, but a few OpenType features disable other
(e.g. onum and lnum) and the order could be in souch a case.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] old style nums
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:37:08 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> You also have to define "oldstyle" :-)
>> No, you don't have to, because oldstyle is predefined in type-ini.tex,
>> two other predefined fontfeatures are "default" and "smallcaps" :-)
>
> Did you try it? worketh not ;-)
>>> ==
> % engine=luatex
>
> \setfontfeature{oldstyle}
>
> \starttext
>
> test
>
> 1234567890
>
> \stoptext
Possibly because the predefined one does not have "mode=node",
which seems important. I get:
error: /opt/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:2019: attempt
to index field 'description' (a nil value)
followed by an assertion error.
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] old style nums
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:37:08 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You also have to define "oldstyle" :-)
>
> No, you don't have to, because oldstyle is predefined in type-ini.tex,
> two other predefined fontfeatures are "default" and "smallcaps" :-)
Did you try it? worketh not ;-)
>> ==
% engine=luatex
\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
\starttext
test
1234567890
\stoptext
>> ==
>>
>> > There is currently no better way to enable oldstyle number for the
>> > whole document except you define your own typescripts and use them.
>>
>> I spent hours today writing and debugging a huge typescript for lm (all
>> those optical sizes, since i could not for the life of me get it to
>> piggy-back the def's in type-siz). I just got it working flawlessly a
>> few
>> minutes ago -- sublime, a work of art even -- then I get your message
>> which would have saved me hours of work! I just needed that one
>> command!!!
>>
>> You're an angel, just wish I got this this morning ;-)
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Idris
>>
>> PS Note that tnum (tabular version) looks better than onum alone, but
>> is a
>> function of onum in the font so cannot be invoked unless onum is invoked
>> first.
> \definefontfeature[tnum][tnum=yes,onum=yes]
Hmm, I assumed the order would be [onum=yes,tnum=yes], or does the order
not matter?
Best wishes
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] old style nums
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:56:10 -0700
"Idris Samawi Hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:09:16 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> What is the official way to get old style numerals in 11pt in mkiv? I'm
> >> just using lm.
> >
> > It depends what do you want to achieve, local changes can be done with
> > \os, but this will use numbers from the math font.
>
> That's exactly why \os is almost useless (it messes up itemizations and
> other stuff); better to \switchtotypeface, even for local changes.
>
> > option two is to write
> > \setfontfeature{oldstyle} in the preamble of your document and ConTeXt
> > use oldstyle numbers by default if present in the current font.
>
> You also have to define "oldstyle" :-)
No, you don't have to, because oldstyle is predefined in type-ini.tex,
two other predefined fontfeatures are "default" and "smallcaps" :-)
> ==
> % engine=luatex
>
> \definefontfeature
>[oldstyle]
>[mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,onum=yes,tnum=yes]
>
> \setfontfeature{oldstyle}
>
> \starttext
>
> 1234567890
>
> \stoptext
> ==
>
> > There is currently no better way to enable oldstyle number for the
> > whole document except you define your own typescripts and use them.
>
> I spent hours today writing and debugging a huge typescript for lm (all
> those optical sizes, since i could not for the life of me get it to
> piggy-back the def's in type-siz). I just got it working flawlessly a few
> minutes ago -- sublime, a work of art even -- then I get your message
> which would have saved me hours of work! I just needed that one command!!!
>
> You're an angel, just wish I got this this morning ;-)
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
>
> PS Note that tnum (tabular version) looks better than onum alone, but is a
> function of onum in the font so cannot be invoked unless onum is invoked
> first.
\definefontfeature[onum][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[lnum][lnum=yes]
\definefontfeature[tnum][tnum=yes,onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[pnum][pnum=yes]
\starttext
\setfontfeature{onum}123456789\par
\setfontfeature{lnum}123456789\par
\setfontfeature{tnum}123456789\par
\setfontfeature{pnum}123456789\par
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] old style nums
Hi Wolfgang,
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:09:16 -0700, Wolfgang Schuster
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What is the official way to get old style numerals in 11pt in mkiv? I'm
just using lm.
It depends what do you want to achieve, local changes can be done with
\os, but this will use numbers from the math font.
That's exactly why \os is almost useless (it messes up itemizations and
other stuff); better to \switchtotypeface, even for local changes.
option two is to write
\setfontfeature{oldstyle} in the preamble of your document and ConTeXt
use oldstyle numbers by default if present in the current font.
You also have to define "oldstyle" :-)
==
% engine=luatex
\definefontfeature
[oldstyle]
[mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,onum=yes,tnum=yes]
\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
\starttext
1234567890
\stoptext
==
There is currently no better way to enable oldstyle number for the
whole document except you define your own typescripts and use them.
I spent hours today writing and debugging a huge typescript for lm (all
those optical sizes, since i could not for the life of me get it to
piggy-back the def's in type-siz). I just got it working flawlessly a few
minutes ago -- sublime, a work of art even -- then I get your message
which would have saved me hours of work! I just needed that one command!!!
You're an angel, just wish I got this this morning ;-)
Best wishes
Idris
PS Note that tnum (tabular version) looks better than onum alone, but is a
function of onum in the font so cannot be invoked unless onum is invoked
first.
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International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
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type-lmos.tex
Description: TeX document
test-lmos.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] old style nums
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:50:04 -0700
"Idris Samawi Hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear gang,
>
> What is the official way to get old style numerals in 11pt in mkiv? I'm
> just using lm.
It depends what do you want to achieve, local changes can be done with
\os, but this will use numbers from the math font.
Mark IV has a new the new option "fontfeatures" and you can use this
to get the oldstyle numbers from the latin modern OT fonts. Option one
is to redefine \os to use the numbers from the main font, you have to
put the following command in your document,
\def\os{\setfontfeature{oldstyle}}, option two is to write
\setfontfeature{oldstyle} in the preamble of your document and ConTeXt
use oldstyle numbers by default if present in the current font.
There is currently no better way to enable oldstyle number for the
whole document except you define your own typescripts and use them.
> Thnx in advance!
>
> Best
> Idris
Wolfgang
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Dear gang, What is the official way to get old style numerals in 11pt in mkiv? I'm just using lm. Thnx in advance! Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
