Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-29 Thread Alan Stone
Jonathan Kew's response...

---
You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific
command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to
xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the
dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but
you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a
higher version.

JK
---

 you need to pass the -V command-line option to
 xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
 scripts, but don't know any details),

Somebody knows the details ?

Alan

At Saturday 28/06/2008 13:45, you wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Alan Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer.
 
  Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e.
 
  (1) the scrambled PDF headers ?
 
  (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ?

For XeTeX it's set in tex.rb:
 @@runoptions['xetex']   = ['--8bit','-output-driver=xdvipdfmx
-E -d 4 -V 5']
you can modify that one, but it will be replaced next time when you
update ConTeXt.

Can you please ask on the XeTeX mailing list if there is some command
to specify PDF version with a command? Then, -V 5 could go out of
tex.rb into the format. But I'm not sure if that functionality has
already been implemented (though it should probably be trivial to do).

Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
 Jonathan Kew's response...
 
 ---
 You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific
 command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to
 xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
 scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the
 dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but
 you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a
 higher version.

maybe it makes sense to support the \pdfminotversion primitive in xetex; 
after all, its' determined by what trickery happens in the macro package

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-29 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
 Jonathan Kew's response...

 ---
 You can't use \pdfminorversion in XeTeX, that's a pdfTeX-specific
 command. I think you need to pass the -V command-line option to
 xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
 scripts, but don't know any details), or else set it in the
 dvipdfmx.cfg configuration file. AFAIK, the usual default is 4, but
 you can set it higher if you need to embed other PDFs that use a
 higher version.

 JK
 ---

  you need to pass the -V command-line option to
  xdvipdfmx (I expect this can be done somewhere in the ConTeXt
  scripts, but don't know any details),

 Somebody knows the details ?

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote
 maybe it makes sense to support the \pdfminotversion primitive in xetex;
 after all, its' determined by what trickery happens in the macro package

At the moment the only reasonable answer is to edit tex.rb (every time
when you update ConTeXt) I'm affraid. Hans doesn't provide any command
line opton to change that, and apparently Jonathan didn't provide any
primitive to change that either. You could create or edit a
configuration file for dvipdfmx, but I'm affraid that passing an
option to xdvipdfmx (which is done by default in ConTeXt already)
would overwrite that setting anyway.

You have two options if you really really need that:
1.) bribe Hans for command-line option and volunteer to write man
pages for TeX Live (for ConTeXt they are still missing)
2.) bribe Jonathan to add a primitive
(but have a good excuse for it :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-28 Thread Alan Stone
Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer.

Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e.

(1) the scrambled PDF headers ?

(2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ?

using

- ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
- XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

Best,
Alan


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Stone wrote:
 FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message...

 you mean ...

 [1.1]
 ** WARNING ** Could not open config file dvipdfmx.cfg.
 stdin - minifr.pdf
 [1]
 5366 bytes written

 probably harmless

 Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
 Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer.
 
 Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e.
 
 (1) the scrambled PDF headers ?
 
 (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ?
 
 using
 
 - ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
 - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

in pdf traditionally there was only pdf doc encoding; this is supported 
by default

when unicode encoding was added to the spec, i started supporting it too 
  and given that one enables it, traditional tex should work out ok (for 
instance chinese bookmark were possible)

i've now enabled it for luatex (context mkiv) and when that works ou ok 
i'll see if i can support it for xet ex too (the problem is that i need 
to rework some code in the spec drivers and that was not on my current 
agenda)

(it means that i need to replace defaults for pdftex/xetex/luatex and 
since luatex is experimental anyway, let's start there)

Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-28 Thread Alan Stone
Ok Hans. Thanks for taking it into consideration. Take your time do to
whatever you intended to do first. It'll be worthwhile waiting for
sure.

The more I dig into ConTeXt the more I like it ( compared to LaTeX ) -
although the font handling is quite a tough nut to crack. XeTeX makes
it a bit more comprehensible, though I don't have a clue what I'm
doing. I just try different things and keep what works.

Thanks for all that you do.

Have a great weekend,
Alan


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Stone wrote:
 Yep Hans, that one. Ok I won't bother about it any longer.

 Any clues regarding the other issues, i.e.

 (1) the scrambled PDF headers ?

 (2) the inability to lower the \pdfminorversion setting ?

 using

 - ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
 - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

 in pdf traditionally there was only pdf doc encoding; this is supported
 by default

 when unicode encoding was added to the spec, i started supporting it too
  and given that one enables it, traditional tex should work out ok (for
 instance chinese bookmark were possible)

 i've now enabled it for luatex (context mkiv) and when that works ou ok
 i'll see if i can support it for xet ex too (the problem is that i need
 to rework some code in the spec drivers and that was not on my current
 agenda)

 (it means that i need to replace defaults for pdftex/xetex/luatex and
 since luatex is experimental anyway, let's start there)

 Hans
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[NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
Hi,

- ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
- XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

When using

(1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
title={éèçàù},
subtitle={éèçàù},
author={éèçàù},
keyword={éèçàù}]

the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
document properties fields while in the document itself
all is ok.

Qué passa ?


(2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives

! Undefined control sequence.
l.31 \pdfminorversion
 =5
?
! Emergency stop.
l.31 \pdfminorversion
 =5

What's the alternative ?

Thanks,
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
Re (1)

Would somebody please de so kind to compile this minimal example
with XeTeX and inform me what you see in the pdf's document
properties for: title, subject, author and keywords ?

The good looking characters or the messed up ones ?

--- begin code ---

\mainlanguage[fr]

\setupinteraction[
title=ÀÂÆ ÇÉÈÊË ÎÏÔŒ ÙÜŸ,
subtitle=àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ,
author=àâæ ÀÂÆ,
keyword=àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ]

\starttext

À Â Æ Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Œ Ù Ü Ÿ

à â æ ç é è ê ë î ï ô œ ù û ü ÿ

\stoptext

--- end code ---


Thanks on beforehand,
Alan


2008/6/27 Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 - ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
 - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

 When using

 (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
 title={éèçàù},
 subtitle={éèçàù},
 author={éèçàù},
 keyword={éèçàù}]

 the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
 document properties fields while in the document itself
 all is ok.

 Qué passa ?


 (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives

 ! Undefined control sequence.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5
 ?
 ! Emergency stop.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5

 What's the alternative ?

 Thanks,
 Alan

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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Khaled Hosny
I'm getting a bunch of ��ï symbols.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 04:22:14PM +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
 Re (1)
 
 Would somebody please de so kind to compile this minimal example
 with XeTeX and inform me what you see in the pdf's document
 properties for: title, subject, author and keywords ?
 
 The good looking characters or the messed up ones ?
 
 --- begin code ---
 
 \mainlanguage[fr]
 
 \setupinteraction[
 title=Ԍ,
 subtitle=   ,
 author=   ,
 keyword=   ]
 
 \starttext
 
  
 

 
 \stoptext
 
 --- end code ---
 
 
 Thanks on beforehand,
 Alan
 
 
 2008/6/27 Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi,
 
 - ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
 - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 
 When using
 
 (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
 title={ },
 subtitle={ },
 author={ },
 keyword={ }]
 
 the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
 document properties fields while in the document itself
 all is ok.
 
 Qu  passa ?
 
 
 (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives
 
 ! Undefined control sequence.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5
 ?
 ! Emergency stop.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5
 
 What's the alternative ?
 
 Thanks,
 Alan
 
 

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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks Khaled.

In the meantime found
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF_Bookmarks_and_Headers#PDF_Headers
so...

--- begin code ---

\mainlanguage[fr]

\setupinteraction[
   state=start,
   title={ÀÂÆ ÇÉÈÊË ÎÏÔŒ ÙÜŸ},
   subtitle={àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ},
   author={àâæ ÀÂÆ},
   keyword={àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ}]

\starttext

À Â Æ Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Œ Ù Ü Ÿ

à â æ ç é è ê ë î ï ô œ ù û ü ÿ

\stoptext

--- end code ---

Still scramled pdf headers.

Looking for an enlightened and enlightening soul...

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message...

Have a good weekend everybody,
Alan


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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
 FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message...

you mean ...

[1.1]
** WARNING ** Could not open config file dvipdfmx.cfg.
stdin - minifr.pdf
[1]
5366 bytes written

probably harmless

Hans

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