Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
... OK - On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:16:08 +0200, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: actually it does accept more units but they were pretty small (needed an 1/u) anyhow, in the next beta we can do \starttext \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=ex,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=10pt] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \stoptext Although it's meaningless, what would \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=10pt] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank ^^ ^^ produce? Will the following setups be valid in the next beta? \setupbars[rulethickness=1mm] \setupbars[rulethickness=1cm] \setupbars[rulethickness=1in] \setupbars[rulethickness=1ex] \setupbars[rulethickness=1pt] \setupbars[rulethickness=1bp] Best regards, Lukas -- Ing. Lukáš Procházka [mailto:l...@pontex.cz] Pontex s. r. o. [mailto:pon...@pontex.cz] [http://www.pontex.cz] Bezová 1658 147 14 Praha 4 Tel: +420 244 062 238 Fax: +420 244 461 038 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
On 10-7-2012 15:25, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote: ... OK - On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:16:08 +0200, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: actually it does accept more units but they were pretty small (needed an 1/u) anyhow, in the next beta we can do \starttext \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=ex,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=10pt] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \stoptext Although it's meaningless, what would \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=10pt] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank ^^ ^^ produce? Will the following setups be valid in the next beta? \setupbars[rulethickness=1mm] \setupbars[rulethickness=1cm] \setupbars[rulethickness=1in] \setupbars[rulethickness=1ex] \setupbars[rulethickness=1pt] \setupbars[rulethickness=1bp] the unit is uses for consistent stacking of nested bars; in the case of a unit with rulethickness that one is used for the rules, otherwise the general unit is applied to the rulethickness Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
There is still an issue here.
\setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=1]
AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf
\setupbars[unit=ex,rulethickness=1]
AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf
\setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=1]
AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf
The first and third setup do not give an underbar, the second does.
Question: why does ex qualify as a dimension unit but pt and mm do not?
Sounds strange.
If I want an underbar exactly 1mm or 3pt's thick, why isn't that made possible?
Doing the math myself is no option, becaus ex will not be known beforehand.
Hans van der Meer
On 8 jul. 2012, at 23:40, Meer, H. van der wrote:
Thansk,
I see. \setupbars doesn't give a hit on ConTeXt-wiki, so I couldn't find this.
Still I dare say, it is a pity that [rulethickness=] gets a different meaning
here than elsewhere. I would like to ask to reconsider, because I strongly
believe in consistency in the API (though I am ready to admit that it is not
easy to maintain and confess guilty myself at more than one occasion). That is
either change all rulethickness's everywhere to this scheme or otherwise. Or
did this already happened and did I miss that? And of course, the easiest
solution would be if the code itself could sort out the difference between
having been given a fraction or a length.
Hans van der Meer
On 8 jul. 2012, at 22:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 08.07.2012 um 22:24 schrieb Meer, H. van der:
This gives an error:
\starttext
\setupbars[rulethickness=4pt]
\stoptext
! LuaTeX error main ctx instance:1: malformed number near '4pt'.
ConTeXt ver: 2012.07.04 23:48 MKIV fmt: 2012.7.6 int: english/english
Elsewhere this is ok, as for example in: \framed[rulethickness=4pt]{}
Strangely in node-rul.mkiv I see: \c!rulethickness=2.5
whereas in pack-rul.mkiv: \c!rulethickness=\linewidth
I am inclined to spot an error here, or at least an inconsistency in the API.
\setupbars[rulethickness=0.5]
\starttext
\setupbars[unit=ex]\underbar{ex}
\setupbars[unit=em]\underbar{em}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
Am 09.07.2012 um 09:09 schrieb Meer, H. van der: There is still an issue here. \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf \setupbars[unit=ex,rulethickness=1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf The first and third setup do not give an underbar, the second does. Question: why does ex qualify as a dimension unit but pt and mm do not? Sounds strange. If I want an underbar exactly 1mm or 3pt's thick, why isn't that made possible? Doing the math myself is no option, becaus ex will not be known beforehand. The underlying Lua code accepts only “ex” and “em” as valid options for the “unit” key but I would also vote to accept either “pt”, “mm” etc. as unit value or to allow “rulethickness=…pt”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:26:51 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: to allow “rulethickness=…pt”. +1 Lukas Wolfgang -- Ing. Lukáš Procházka [mailto:l...@pontex.cz] Pontex s. r. o. [mailto:pon...@pontex.cz] [http://www.pontex.cz] Bezová 1658 147 14 Praha 4 Tel: +420 244 062 238 Fax: +420 244 461 038 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:26:51 +0200 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: The underlying Lua code accepts only “ex” and “em” as valid options for the “unit” key but I would also vote to accept either “pt”, “mm” etc. as unit value or to allow “rulethickness=…pt”. Wolfgang It proposal has my vote! -- Bill Meahan, Westland, Michigan USA “Writing is a combination of intangible creative fantasy and appallingly hard work.” —Anthony Powell This message is digitally signed with an X.509 certificate to prove it is from me and has not been altered since it was sent. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
On 9-7-2012 09:26, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 09.07.2012 um 09:09 schrieb Meer, H. van der: There is still an issue here. \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf \setupbars[unit=ex,rulethickness=1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=1] AB\startbar[underbar]CD\stopbar EF\crlf The first and third setup do not give an underbar, the second does. Question: why does ex qualify as a dimension unit but pt and mm do not? Sounds strange. If I want an underbar exactly 1mm or 3pt's thick, why isn't that made possible? Doing the math myself is no option, becaus ex will not be known beforehand. The underlying Lua code accepts only “ex” and “em” as valid options for the “unit” key but I would also vote to accept either “pt”, “mm” etc. as unit value or to allow “rulethickness=…pt”. actually it does accept more units but they were pretty small (needed an 1/u) anyhow, in the next beta we can do \starttext \setupbars[unit=mm,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=ex,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=1] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \setupbars[unit=pt,rulethickness=10pt] bar\startbar[underbar]foo\stopbar bar\blank \stoptext but someone has do document it - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] setupbars
This gives an error:
\starttext
\setupbars[rulethickness=4pt]
\stoptext
! LuaTeX error main ctx instance:1: malformed number near '4pt'.
ConTeXt ver: 2012.07.04 23:48 MKIV fmt: 2012.7.6 int: english/english
Elsewhere this is ok, as for example in: \framed[rulethickness=4pt]{}
Strangely in node-rul.mkiv I see: \c!rulethickness=2.5
whereas in pack-rul.mkiv: \c!rulethickness=\linewidth
I am inclined to spot an error here, or at least an inconsistency in the API.
Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
Am 08.07.2012 um 22:24 schrieb Meer, H. van der:
This gives an error:
\starttext
\setupbars[rulethickness=4pt]
\stoptext
! LuaTeX error main ctx instance:1: malformed number near '4pt'.
ConTeXt ver: 2012.07.04 23:48 MKIV fmt: 2012.7.6 int: english/english
Elsewhere this is ok, as for example in: \framed[rulethickness=4pt]{}
Strangely in node-rul.mkiv I see: \c!rulethickness=2.5
whereas in pack-rul.mkiv: \c!rulethickness=\linewidth
I am inclined to spot an error here, or at least an inconsistency in the API.
\setupbars[rulethickness=0.5]
\starttext
\setupbars[unit=ex]\underbar{ex}
\setupbars[unit=em]\underbar{em}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] setupbars
Thansk,
I see. \setupbars doesn't give a hit on ConTeXt-wiki, so I couldn't find this.
Still I dare say, it is a pity that [rulethickness=] gets a different meaning
here than elsewhere. I would like to ask to reconsider, because I strongly
believe in consistency in the API (though I am ready to admit that it is not
easy to maintain and confess guilty myself at more than one occasion). That is
either change all rulethickness's everywhere to this scheme or otherwise. Or
did this already happened and did I miss that? And of course, the easiest
solution would be if the code itself could sort out the difference between
having been given a fraction or a length.
Hans van der Meer
On 8 jul. 2012, at 22:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 08.07.2012 um 22:24 schrieb Meer, H. van der:
This gives an error:
\starttext
\setupbars[rulethickness=4pt]
\stoptext
! LuaTeX error main ctx instance:1: malformed number near '4pt'.
ConTeXt ver: 2012.07.04 23:48 MKIV fmt: 2012.7.6 int: english/english
Elsewhere this is ok, as for example in: \framed[rulethickness=4pt]{}
Strangely in node-rul.mkiv I see: \c!rulethickness=2.5
whereas in pack-rul.mkiv: \c!rulethickness=\linewidth
I am inclined to spot an error here, or at least an inconsistency in the API.
\setupbars[rulethickness=0.5]
\starttext
\setupbars[unit=ex]\underbar{ex}
\setupbars[unit=em]\underbar{em}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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