[NTG-context] setuptex changes in minimals (was: bugs in beta)

2009-05-08 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:46, Yanrui Li wrote:

 Recently I have found some environment variables in setuptex script
 are commented out sometimes, such as TEXMFLOCAL, TEXMFCONTEXT and so
 on. Is this be done deliberately?

Yes (we were bored during some Polish talks at BachoTeX).

The reason for setuptex setting all those variables in the old days
was to override tetex's environmental variables, but in principle this
is not needed at all unless tetex is present on computer. The reason
for removing them again was to make sure that Hans' scripts work
properly even when no environmental variable is set (which will be the
case on TeX Live for example).

The only variable change that's really needed is fixing PATH, but it's
so convenient to be able to run
. /path/to/setuptex
instead of typing the long
export PATH=/path/to/minimals/bin:$PATH

We nevertheless left two or three variables since ConTeXt didn't yet
work properly without them, but we'll remove those as well.

If anyone uses minimals on tetex, we can create an additional file
again that would enable complete isolation.

We didn't clean up the windows script yet as it would need some more
testing (and we had enough problem by minimals not running at all on
unix), but that's still on TODO list ...

We also silently added TEXMFHOME (while Hans was not watching), but
maybe we need to change the exact path.

If you have any particular question or request about that, let us know.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex changes in minimals (was: bugs in beta)

2009-05-08 Thread Yanrui Li
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:46, Yanrui Li wrote:

 Recently I have found some environment variables in setuptex script
 are commented out sometimes, such as TEXMFLOCAL, TEXMFCONTEXT and so
 on. Is this be done deliberately?

 Yes (we were bored during some Polish talks at BachoTeX).

 The reason for setuptex setting all those variables in the old days
 was to override tetex's environmental variables, but in principle this
 is not needed at all unless tetex is present on computer. The reason
 for removing them again was to make sure that Hans' scripts work
 properly even when no environmental variable is set (which will be the
 case on TeX Live for example).

 The only variable change that's really needed is fixing PATH, but it's
 so convenient to be able to run
    . /path/to/setuptex
 instead of typing the long
    export PATH=/path/to/minimals/bin:$PATH

 We nevertheless left two or three variables since ConTeXt didn't yet
 work properly without them, but we'll remove those as well.

 If anyone uses minimals on tetex, we can create an additional file
 again that would enable complete isolation.

 We didn't clean up the windows script yet as it would need some more
 testing (and we had enough problem by minimals not running at all on
 unix), but that's still on TODO list ...

 We also silently added TEXMFHOME (while Hans was not watching), but
 maybe we need to change the exact path.

 If you have any particular question or request about that, let us know.


Thanks for your explanation. Now I see.

I have no questions for these, only I have to modify instruction of these
variables in the tutorial which I wrote for Chinese users :)

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Li Yanrui
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex changes in minimals (was: bugs in beta)

2009-05-08 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 14:16, Yanrui Li wrote:

 I have no questions for these, only I have to modify instruction of these
 variables in the tutorial which I wrote for Chinese users :)

What exactly do you describe there? Do you write instructions for
users that want to modify their installation?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex changes in minimals (was: bugs in beta)

2009-05-08 Thread Yanrui Li
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 14:16, Yanrui Li wrote:

 I have no questions for these, only I have to modify instruction of these
 variables in the tutorial which I wrote for Chinese users :)

 What exactly do you describe there? Do you write instructions for
 users that want to modify their installation?


MkIV have not support Chinese typesetting now, so I modified
scrp-ini.lua and scrp-cjk.lua for compression of Chinese punctuations.
In addition, I wrote a lua program which can solve the
problem of margin alignment of Chinese puncuations appeared on the
right side. To simplify the usage of these modified script files, I
used TEXMFLOCAL instead of the specific path. But this is not a very
serious matter, because I am going to rewrite the related content
easily and only a few Chinese users are interested in MkIV
.

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Best wishes,
Li Yanrui
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex changes in minimals (was: bugs in beta)

2009-05-08 Thread Yanrui Li
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Yanrui Li liyanrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Mojca Miklavec
 mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 14:16, Yanrui Li wrote:

 I have no questions for these, only I have to modify instruction of these
 variables in the tutorial which I wrote for Chinese users :)

 What exactly do you describe there? Do you write instructions for
 users that want to modify their installation?


 MkIV have not support Chinese typesetting now, so I modified
 scrp-ini.lua and scrp-cjk.lua for compression of Chinese punctuations.
 In addition, I wrote a lua program which can solve the
 problem of margin alignment of Chinese puncuations appeared on the
 right side. To simplify the usage of these modified script files, I
 used TEXMFLOCAL instead of the specific path. But this is not a very
 serious matter, because I am going to rewrite the related content
 easily and only a few Chinese users are interested in MkIV
 .



Sorry!

s/MkIV have not support Chinese typesetting now / MkIV have not
support Chinese typesetting well now/g


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Li Yanrui
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Re: [NTG-context] setuptex changes in minimals (was: bugs in beta)

2009-05-08 Thread Yue Wang
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Yanrui Li liyanrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry!

 s/MkIV have not support Chinese typesetting now / MkIV have not
 support Chinese typesetting well now/g


We can start a fork of scrp-* on code.google.com/p/ctex-kit,
making a usable version, and later ask Hans to merge back into ConTeXt.

Yue Wang



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